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 Mon 23 Aug 21 15:29 
 Afghanistan - No FM2R
As Terry said.

Outrage and what are probably staged photographs and heavily elaborated stories is pointless.

*Everybody* has failed to enforce their version of society upon Afghanistan, there is little point or value in continuing.

Also, as I said, withdrawal was *never* going to be pretty, whatever the Daily Mail thinks was possible.

When Afghanistan was invaded 20 years ago it was a very different place. Access to international media, communications and television being major influences. Pandora's box has most certainly been opened.

I think the Taliban will struggle to close it again and will have to adapt. We need to be part of the effort to encourage that adaption which will need to happen with their involvement.

But don't get excited about the Taliban being a club, it's not. It doesn't have the planning, discipline and cohesion of something like the IRA did in its day. Even its 'membership' is nebulous. By and large it's a bunch of disparate thugs who will follow a leader for as long as they are getting to do what they want. If the leadership tells them to do something that doesn't appeal then they'll just wander off and do what they want anyway.
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 Afghanistan  sooty123 14 Aug 21 20:40
 Afghanistan  legacylad 14 Aug 21 21:22
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 Afghanistan  R.P. 14 Aug 21 22:42
 Afghanistan  Zero 14 Aug 21 23:07
 Afghanistan  Lygonos 15 Aug 21 01:10
 Afghanistan  zippy 15 Aug 21 01:15
 Afghanistan  No FM2R 15 Aug 21 01:42
 Afghanistan  sooty123 15 Aug 21 06:14
 Afghanistan  No FM2R 15 Aug 21 01:44
 Afghanistan  sooty123 15 Aug 21 06:24
 Afghanistan  Zero 15 Aug 21 07:58
 Afghanistan  Zero 15 Aug 21 08:17
 Afghanistan  legacylad 15 Aug 21 08:23
 Afghanistan  sooty123 15 Aug 21 08:57
 Afghanistan  Terry 15 Aug 21 13:05
 Afghanistan  Duncan 15 Aug 21 13:36
 Afghanistan  sooty123 15 Aug 21 14:18
 Afghanistan  Zero 15 Aug 21 15:08
 Afghanistan  sooty123 15 Aug 21 14:16
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 Afghanistan  martin aston 15 Aug 21 15:20
 Afghanistan  sooty123 15 Aug 21 15:26
 Afghanistan  sooty123 15 Aug 21 15:35
 Afghanistan  zippy 15 Aug 21 19:00
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 Afghanistan  Netsur 15 Aug 21 19:34
 Afghanistan  sooty123 17 Aug 21 06:55
  
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 Afghanistan  sherlock47 17 Aug 21 07:53
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 Afghanistan  martin aston 17 Aug 21 08:34
 Afghanistan  Kevin 17 Aug 21 09:22
 Afghanistan  MD 17 Aug 21 10:49
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 Afghanistan  Bromptonaut 21 Aug 21 09:45
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 Afghanistan  Zero 21 Aug 21 11:05
 Afghanistan  martin aston 21 Aug 21 11:14
 Afghanistan  sooty123 21 Aug 21 11:34
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 Afghanistan  Manatee 21 Aug 21 12:54
 Afghanistan  Terry 21 Aug 21 18:09
 Afghanistan  No FM2R 21 Aug 21 19:06
 Afghanistan  BiggerBadderDave 22 Aug 21 14:15
 Afghanistan  Zero 22 Aug 21 14:59
 Afghanistan  Manatee 21 Aug 21 19:14
 Afghanistan  Zero 21 Aug 21 20:52
 Afghanistan  sooty123 21 Aug 21 21:49
 Afghanistan  Terry 21 Aug 21 21:08
 Afghanistan  Robin O'Reliant 21 Aug 21 20:59
 Afghanistan  sooty123 23 Aug 21 08:20
 Afghanistan  Zero 23 Aug 21 09:36
 Afghanistan  bathtub tom 24 Aug 21 11:56
 Afghanistan  Duncan 27 Aug 21 22:39
 Afghanistan  Zero 27 Aug 21 22:50
 Afghanistan  Kevin 27 Aug 21 23:51
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 Afghanistan  sooty123 28 Aug 21 06:44
  
 Afghanistan  No FM2R 22 Aug 21 16:15
 Afghanistan  Zero 22 Aug 21 18:40
 Afghanistan  martin aston 22 Aug 21 19:09
 Afghanistan  No FM2R 22 Aug 21 19:35
 Afghanistan  Zero 22 Aug 21 19:38
 Afghanistan  No FM2R 22 Aug 21 19:39
 Afghanistan  Zero 22 Aug 21 19:41
 Afghanistan  Kevin 22 Aug 21 19:32
 Afghanistan  Zero 22 Aug 21 19:33
 Afghanistan  No FM2R 22 Aug 21 19:37
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 Afghanistan  No FM2R 22 Aug 21 19:46
 Afghanistan  zippy 22 Aug 21 20:53
 Afghanistan  Zero 22 Aug 21 21:15
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 Afghanistan  No FM2R 23 Aug 21 01:50
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 Afghanistan  No FM2R 23 Aug 21 03:46
 Afghanistan  zippy 23 Aug 21 04:09
 Afghanistan  No FM2R 23 Aug 21 04:29
 Afghanistan  Kevin 23 Aug 21 07:18
 Afghanistan  Terry 23 Aug 21 10:50
 Afghanistan  Zero 23 Aug 21 10:57
 Afghanistan  bathtub tom 23 Aug 21 14:50
 Afghanistan  No FM2R 23 Aug 21 15:29
 Afghanistan  No FM2R 23 Aug 21 15:34
 Afghanistan  MD 23 Aug 21 21:09
 Afghanistan  No FM2R 23 Aug 21 14:59
 Afghanistan  Bromptonaut 23 Aug 21 15:37
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 Afghanistan  No FM2R 23 Aug 21 20:00
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 Afghanistan  Terry 23 Aug 21 20:53
 Afghanistan  zippy 25 Aug 21 23:55
 Afghanistan  sooty123 26 Aug 21 06:35
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 Afghanistan  Zero 26 Aug 21 18:53
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 Afghanistan  sooty123 27 Aug 21 07:53
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 Afghanistan  martin aston 27 Aug 21 14:56
 Afghanistan  sooty123 27 Aug 21 15:59
 Afghanistan  Lygonos 27 Aug 21 16:57
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 Afghanistan  legacylad 29 Aug 21 08:20
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