>> When you say "people over there" I assume you mean the ones that the Daily
>> Mail tell you that you that you agree with? Because the Taliban are "people over
>> there" and they *absolutely* just want to get on with their lives.
Actually, it's the videos of the people clamouring to leave the cesspit of a country that Afghanistan is likely to become. Not only at the airport, but at international borders as well.
Unless you believe that they are leaving for purely economic reasons - mostly women do not hand over children and babies for economic gain.
Can you imagine many of the educated women, public servants etc supporting the Taliban freely?
And yes, the Taliban are people over there, but with a population of 30m, I guess that they are the minority, but with a violent streak and big guns.
And yes, I do know a little about the subject. My mother was a translator for many years specialising in near eastern languages. She worked in London before we came along then from home, mainly for international companies, also for charities, NGOs and the Govt.
For many years we were sent exiles from terror to stay with us for a few weeks whilst she translated various documents and there was a steady stream of visitors such as Govt. officials, the local MP and representatives from NGOs.
I have seen the scars left by beatings and torture.
>>
>> how do you know for whom they are looking? Or even if they are looking
>> at all? Because you read it in the Daily Mail? FFS.
Based on reading the articles on the BBC, Aljazeera, the Guardian, the Telegraph who all reported a UNHCR report.
>>
>> >> There are reports of ex police men and women already executed.
>> Ohhh, there are reports. I see. So, all sewn up and done then.
>>
Again, several sources reported. I guess they could have made up the same story.
>> I would imagine that the people wishing the Taliban well would love to see them
>> here. Why wouldn't they?
>>
Well obviously!
>> Afghanistan does not wish to live as the US told them to, as the Russians
>> told them to or indeed as the British told them to. Why do you believe
>> that they should?
I think there is a huge gulf between not wanting to live as the USA / Russia etc. and wanting to live without the fear of arbitrary religious rules, intolerance, stoning, torture and executions.
>>
>> Of course, if a majority of the people wish something then that should be paid
>> attention to. If there is mass genocide then that should be paid attention to. etc.
>> etc. But right now the Taliban would seem to be mostly guilty of what the
>> Daily Mail thinks that they are going to do and so far they haven't done
>> it.
>>
No. The Taliban are guilty of overthrowing a legitimately elected government, to impose their version of Islam and Sharia Law.
>> Yet, if I am not mistaken, you don't like people being arrested on suspicion of
>> what they might do.
I would have though that would be a view that many people hold.
>>
>> Afghanistan is not good vs. evil or black vs. white. It is some Afghanis against
>> some other Afghanis with the BBC and the Daily Mail making money out of both
>> as the various politicians of the world do the same.
I wonder if 200,000 heavily armed thugs rampaged through the UK and kicked out the Govt you would be saying its some UK citizens against other UK citizens? I can't believe the majority of Afghanis want what is happening in their country and I chose to believe that the majority are too b***** terrified to do much about it.
>>
>> The world is a different place, and Afghanistan is a very different place, since the
>> first time that some religious country bumpkins with Toyotas and Russian guns started tromping all
>> over the place.
Yes and that part of the short-term view of the West's policies and why I suspect China will reap rewards by playing a very long game.
>>
>> Not saying it is going to be good, but lets see. Of course, if you
>> disagree with what is going on then you could go off and join the righteous
>> fight, but that hasn't worked out so well for Shamima Begum.
>>
Such an asinine remark.
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