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 Afghanistan - Terry
There are some very fundamental questions need answering.

When Biden committed to the withdrawal did he know at the time how lacking in resolve the well trained and equipped Afghan army was.

One assumes there would have been an assessment of the risks. He either got it very seriously wrong, or he had an expectation of the outcome and decided to go ahead anyway.

Was Boris and his team aware of the realities of the Biden decision.

If they were did they simply hope "it would be alright on the night". Did they have any input into the decision making process. Or is the UK treated as an inconsequential second division by the US military.

What does this do to US/UK special relationship - or is it a product of a UK delusion.

I can only come to a few conclusions:

- intelligence on Taliban and Afghan army was completely flawed, or
- politicians on both sides of the Atlantic withheld the truth and went ahead anyway
- the UK cannot rely upon the US for its foreign policy and strategy
- we (the public) cannot rely upon the integrity of our political leaders (what's new?)

Biden can't be sacked - only impeached. Up to the US what happens.

Johnson and Raab can be forced out - Johnson would lack support from any of the opposition, but more importantly many of his own MPs are disgusted by his actions in a way which far exceed any strong opinions held on Brexit or Covid management.
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