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 Afghanistan - Netsur
For the West, the way we treat sections of society that do not conform to the norm, shows how advanced and caring we are. This has not always been the case, but in the last 50 years we have managed to start to treat women, LGBT, Blacks, Asians etc with the same level of respect that white men have treated each other.

It is not perfect but unless you are part of an extreme Asian or Ultra-orthodox Jewish family, the women will generally marry when they want to marry and to whom they wish to marry (I include arranged introductions - not arranged marriages - in this definition of women having the right to decide who and when they marry. Many of my co-religionist acquaintances and friends were introduced to each other and in very few cases did they marry the first person they were introduced to).

Applying the same standards to other parts of the world, especially those dominated by an Islam which is more cultural in observance that actually in conformity to the Koran, is fraught with difficulty. I know that we think that the way Afghan women will be treated by the Taliban is appalling (and it is), but in reality, the way to stop it, is not to invade yet again, but to work at the edges and try to get the slightly more moderate Islamic countries to change their society - just as we have had to change ours. Despite some rather awful acts by MBS in Saudi, at least women there are starting to have more freedom. That change will expand into the Gulf states and from there outwards. It will take decades at least.

The countries that support the new regime in Kabul need to be shunned. Not only Iran, but Pakistan which always plays a three way game. And of course there is China....
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