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 No future for the Labour Party? - Manatee
I wouldn't credit Hannan's 'opinion' - propaganda more like, but the fact that it sounds even credible is a tragedy.

I think about this quite a lot because what the Conservative government has done and is doing is so destructive. Leaving aside the corruption and equality issues the financial damage done by Brexit, on some estimates, already equates to all the net contributions we have ever made to the EU. Even Margaret Thatcher, hostile as she was to the idea of the EU, was very much in favour of the single market.

Although Labour made progress electorally under Corbyn in 2017 it was clear that he would never win a general election. There are simply too many people who won't stomach him and his infantile fans whatever the appeal of Labour policies. I was happy to see Starmer defeat the gormless Long Bailey and Burgon for the leadership, who thought it was a good idea to put Burgon on the front bench?

Starmer is a good man and capable, but looking at the polling now, when the Conservatives are mired in sleaze and incompetence, he isn't going to win one either. It can't all be the vaccination triumph.

For so many, blustering Boris trumps serious Starmer even when Starmer by rights should have Johnson pinned under a fusilade of forensic questions. The poor bloke always looks as if he is about to burst into tears.

Many CLP officers are idiots, undermining Starmer being top of their agendas. Ditto the outgoing GenSec of Unite, McCluskey.

Inevitably this will change, but who knows when? PMs like Attlee, Heath, Wilson, Thatcher and even the flawed Blair, were giants of intellect and integrity compared to the selection we have had since 2010. Burnham is positioning himself for a comeback but I'm not sure he's the one. Yvette Cooper should be a prospect but she seems happier on committees.

I wish I, and even more so my children, qualified for an EU passport. Unfortunately our Irish connections are too distant. Perhaps a move to NI before Ireland reunites, or Scotland pre-independence, would get us in the back door!
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 No future for the Labour Party?  No FM2R 17 May 21 00:36
 No future for the Labour Party?  sooty123 17 May 21 07:28
 No future for the Labour Party?  Bromptonaut 17 May 21 09:01
 No future for the Labour Party?  No FM2R 17 May 21 14:42
 No future for the Labour Party?  Manatee 17 May 21 14:54
 No future for the Labour Party?  No FM2R 17 May 21 15:10
 No future for the Labour Party?  Bromptonaut 17 May 21 15:45
 No future for the Labour Party?  sooty123 17 May 21 15:57
 No future for the Labour Party?  No FM2R 17 May 21 15:58
 No future for the Labour Party?  Bromptonaut 17 May 21 21:16
 No future for the Labour Party?  No FM2R 17 May 21 23:47
 No future for the Labour Party?  Manatee 17 May 21 09:52
 No future for the Labour Party?  sooty123 17 May 21 10:15
 No future for the Labour Party?  Falkirk Bairn 17 May 21 10:19
 No future for the Labour Party?  Robin O'Reliant 17 May 21 14:03
 No future for the Labour Party?  Manatee 17 May 21 15:06
 No future for the Labour Party?  Robin O'Reliant 17 May 21 18:22
 No future for the Labour Party?  sooty123 17 May 21 18:40
 No future for the Labour Party?  Manatee 17 May 21 20:19
 No future for the Labour Party?  sooty123 17 May 21 15:41
 No future for the Labour Party?  No FM2R 17 May 21 19:16
 No future for the Labour Party?  No FM2R 17 May 21 14:50
 No future for the Labour Party?  Manatee 18 May 21 11:20
 No future for the Labour Party?  No FM2R 18 May 21 16:56
 No future for the Labour Party?  Stuartli 17 May 21 12:45
 No future for the Labour Party?  R.P. 17 May 21 13:09
 No future for the Labour Party?  No FM2R 17 May 21 19:19
 No future for the Labour Party?  Terry 17 May 21 19:28
 No future for the Labour Party?  Lygonos 18 May 21 07:47
 No future for the Labour Party?  Zero 18 May 21 10:57
 No future for the Labour Party?  sooty123 20 May 21 08:45
 No future for the Labour Party?  No FM2R 20 May 21 11:55
 No future for the Labour Party?  Terry 20 May 21 13:05
 No future for the Labour Party?  Bromptonaut 20 May 21 14:09
 No future for the Labour Party..  neiltoo 20 May 21 14:23
 No future for the Labour Part..  Bromptonaut 20 May 21 14:34
 No future for the Labour Par..  legacylad 20 May 21 14:51
 No future for the Labour Par..  No FM2R 20 May 21 17:41
 No future for the Labour Par..  No FM2R 20 May 21 17:42
 No future for the Labour Party..  No FM2R 20 May 21 17:40
 No future for the Labour Part..  sooty123 20 May 21 18:18
 No future for the Labour Par..  No FM2R 20 May 21 19:26
 No future for the Labour Party?  Zero 20 May 21 17:00
 No future for the Labour Party..  Terry 21 May 21 01:32
 No future for the Labour Part..  No FM2R 21 May 21 02:26
 No future for the Labour Par..  legacylad 21 May 21 07:30
 No future for the Labour Pa..  smokie 21 May 21 09:02
  
 No future for the Labour Party?  Duncan 21 May 21 09:37
 No future for the Labour Party?  Bromptonaut 21 May 21 11:26
 No future for the Labour Party?  legacylad 22 May 21 09:07
  
 No future for the Labour Part..  Bromptonaut 21 May 21 11:49
 No future for the Labour Par..  sooty123 22 May 21 07:57
 No future for the Labour Pa..  Bromptonaut 22 May 21 08:54
  
 No future for the Labour Party?  sooty123 22 May 21 09:13
 No future for the Labour Party?  Terry 22 May 21 20:07
 No future for the Labour Party?  No FM2R 22 May 21 20:31
  
 No future for the Labour Party?  sooty123 23 May 21 08:52
 No future for the Labour Party?  Terry 23 May 21 16:46
 No future for the Labour Party?  commerdriver 23 May 21 17:41
 No future for the Labour Party?  neiltoo 23 May 21 18:00
 No future for the Labour Party?  No FM2R 23 May 21 18:01
 No future for the Labour Party?  Robin O'Reliant 23 May 21 18:39
 No future for the Labour Party?  No FM2R 23 May 21 18:47
 No future for the Labour Party?  Terry 23 May 21 22:08
 No future for the Labour Party?  sooty123 24 Sep 21 07:59
 No future for the Labour Party?  PeterS 24 Sep 21 08:26
 No future for the Labour Party?  sooty123 24 Sep 21 08:40
 No future for the Labour Party?  Zero 24 Sep 21 09:23
 No future for the Labour Party?  smokie 24 Sep 21 09:31
 No future for the Labour Party..  sooty123 24 Sep 21 11:21
 No future for the Labour Party..  legacylad 24 Sep 21 12:02
 No future for the Labour Party?  Manatee 24 Sep 21 15:16
 No future for the Labour Party?  Terry 24 Sep 21 21:28
 No future for the Labour Party..  Kevin 24 Sep 21 22:15
 No future for the Labour Part..  Robin O'Reliant 25 Sep 21 14:02
 No future for the Labour Par..  Bromptonaut 25 Sep 21 14:28
 No future for the Labour Pa..  Terry 26 Sep 21 00:45
  
 No future for the Labour Party?  Zero 26 Sep 21 08:44
  
 No future for the Labour Pa..  Bromptonaut 26 Sep 21 09:31
  
 No future for the Labour Party?  Duncan 26 Sep 21 12:01
 No future for the Labour Party?  Zero 26 Sep 21 12:13
  
 No future for the Labour Pa..  Kevin 26 Sep 21 13:52
  
 No future for the Labour Party?  Bromptonaut 26 Sep 21 20:44
 No future for the Labour Party?  Manatee 26 Sep 21 22:05
 No future for the Labour Party?  Duncan 26 Sep 21 22:22
 No future for the Labour Party?  bathtub tom 26 Sep 21 22:52
 No future for the Labour Party?  Bromptonaut 26 Sep 21 23:21
 No future for the Labour Party?  sooty123 27 Sep 21 07:03
 No future for the Labour Party?  PeterS 27 Sep 21 08:00
 No future for the Labour Party?  Manatee 27 Sep 21 08:57
 No future for the Labour Party?  Dog 27 Sep 21 11:44
 No future for the Labour Party?  bathtub tom 27 Sep 21 09:31
 No future for the Labour Party?  Terry 27 Sep 21 10:07
 No future for the Labour Party?  martin aston 27 Sep 21 12:06
 No future for the Labour Party?  Duncan 27 Sep 21 13:11
 No future for the Labour Party..  Terry 27 Sep 21 13:59
 No future for the Labour Part..  bathtub tom 27 Sep 21 14:23
 No future for the Labour Part..  Bromptonaut 27 Sep 21 14:30
 No future for the Labour Par..  sooty123 27 Sep 21 15:06
 No future for the Labour Par..  Robin O'Reliant 27 Sep 21 15:15
 No future for the Labour Pa..  sooty123 27 Sep 21 16:57
  
 No future for the Labour Party?  Bromptonaut 29 Oct 21 11:17
 No future for the Labour Party?  Duncan 29 Oct 21 11:22
 No future for the Labour Party?  Zero 29 Oct 21 11:23
 No future for the Labour Party?  Bromptonaut 29 Oct 21 11:31
 No future for the Labour Party?  Terry 29 Oct 21 13:59
 No future for the Labour Party?  Zero 29 Oct 21 14:31
 No future for the Labour Party?  Bromptonaut 29 Oct 21 17:01
 No future for the Labour Party?  Robin O'Reliant 29 Oct 21 18:23
 No future for the Labour Party?  No FM2R 29 Oct 21 18:55
 No future for the Labour Party?  Bromptonaut 30 Oct 21 14:01
 No future for the Labour Party?  No FM2R 30 Oct 21 14:47
 No future for the Labour Party?  Terry 30 Oct 21 18:11
 No future for the Labour Party..  Manatee 30 Oct 21 18:54
 No future for the Labour Party..  Bromptonaut 30 Oct 21 21:59
 No future for the Labour Part..  PeterS 30 Oct 21 22:29
 No future for the Labour Par..  Bromptonaut 30 Oct 21 23:09
 No future for the Labour Party?  smokie 29 Oct 21 19:33
 No future for the Labour Party?  Manatee 29 Oct 21 20:21
 No future for the Labour Party?  Kevin 29 Oct 21 21:49
 No future for the Labour Pa..  Bromptonaut 27 Sep 21 18:24
  
 No future for the Labour Party?  No FM2R 27 Sep 21 18:29
 No future for the Labour Party?  Manatee 27 Sep 21 20:51
 No future for the Labour Party?  DeeW 28 Sep 21 09:27
 No future for the Labour Party?  Zero 27 Sep 21 22:37
 No future for the Labour Party?  Bromptonaut 28 Sep 21 09:53
 No future for the Labour Party?  No FM2R 28 Sep 21 10:05
 No future for the Labour Party?  Bromptonaut 28 Sep 21 17:29
 No future for the Labour Party?  Robin O'Reliant 28 Sep 21 19:03
 No future for the Labour Par..  PeterS 27 Sep 21 16:58
 No future for the Labour Pa..  Lygonos 27 Sep 21 17:06
  
 No future for the Labour Party?  Duncan 27 Sep 21 22:15
 No future for the Labour Party?  Terry 27 Sep 21 22:52
 No future for the Labour Party?  PeterS 28 Sep 21 23:26
 No future for the Labour Party?  Lygonos 29 Sep 21 00:06
 No future for the Labour Party?  Zero 29 Sep 21 09:23
 No future for the Labour Party?  Duncan 29 Sep 21 16:36
 No future for the Labour Party?  Fursty Ferret 3 Oct 21 09:25
  
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