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 Article 50 Time Extension? - No FM2R
These figures won't quite add up, it's the wine you see. And trying to remember the difference between NHS UK, NHS England, HSHC, Total & FTE, and everything else etc. etc.

Just a bunch of stuff about NHS staffing levels which might interest you. (That means Smokie will spend the next week on Google trying to work out the detail behind this and whether or not the figures are correct)

The proportions are correct. No doubt Lygonos will be able to improve on my accuracy.

There are around 1.2 million members of staff in the NHS in England (not UK). (approx. 1m FTE)

50% of HCHS staff are medically/professionally qualified.

There are about 130,000 staff in GP surgeries in England, of which 34,000 [FTE] are doctors, not included in the HCHS figures. This does not include Locums. More than 90,000 of those staff are admin/clerical/non-clinical.

About 3% of the 1.2 million [NHS England] are non-clinical managers

In total In the NHS there are;
England 1.2m.
Scotland 160k
Wales 89k
NI 64k.

On top of that is optometry, dentisty, independent and private hospitals, and temporary staff.

Taking the England section (1.2million)
6%EU
4%Asian
2%African
8% something else.

Interestingly about 35% of Doctors took their primary medical qualification outside the UK.

There are no meaningful conclusions that can be drawn about staffing levels by nationality since the referendum since the figures just were not kept that accurately. Anything you read on that subject is essentially guess work.

There is no meaningful change in leavers/joiners by nationality. Not in number or proportion of the total.

Don't forget that since Blair's Government we have been actively recruited from other countries into midwifery, nursing and others which skews the figures a bit. That continued, escalated even, under Cameron also.

Bank staff are not included in NHS figures but represent around 160,000 FTEs. As I understand it bank staff are healthcare professionals. The NHS spends about £3bn of it's £120bn on Bank staff, though that includes all fees, services and expenses as well.

The parliamentary briefing paper I have in front of me does not detail how many NMNC temporary staff are used, and that would include IT people - called "Lot 5 Temporary Workers" strangely enough. That comes from the NMNC agreement categorising various staffing types.

I'll dig into the IT staffing position when I have a bit of time later in the week. I'm interested myself now.

NB: If I've made any howlers, sorry. Lygonos can correct me and I'll beg to a moderator to edit the post.


Last edited by: No FM2R on Mon 23 Jul 18 at 02:37
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