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Thread Author: Dutchie Replies: 110

 The C.I.A. and torture. - Westpig
>> But genuinely I find it deeply concerning that you were a policeman, and since I
>> think you enjoyed it and felt comfortable, that therefore many other police-people potentially feel as
>> you do.
>>
>> Meet violence with violence? potential violence should be pre-empted with violence? Hit people to stop
>> them being violent?
>>
>> I find it disturbing.

I really cannot work out why.

I am as a person very much a talker rather than a fighter and firmly believe that negotiation is the proper way forward in most circumstances.....

.... however, in the circumstances we are talking about here, you have to have something up your sleeve AND be prepared to use it if you meet people who are ultimately only ever going to respect force.

So be it the friday night thug versus the local Old BIll... or ... a rogue State versus a powerful democracy and anything in between....you have to have the 'kick ass' option AND be prepared to use it.

If you are not prepared to use it, the ultimate thug will take advantage.

That's the way it is.

You are making the mistake of assuming people like me would use the force option right from the word go or would relish the idea. That is not correct. People like me would consider all the options and use the one correct for the circumstance...and rein in those that would like 'action' right from the start, as well as pushing forward the hand wringers and permanently indecisive.
Last edited by: Westpig on Sun 14 Dec 14 at 11:45
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 The C.I.A. and torture.  Dutchie 10 Dec 14 20:56
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 The C.I.A. and torture.  Westpig 14 Dec 14 11:43
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 The C.I.A. and torture.  Westpig 14 Dec 14 18:53
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 The C.I.A. and torture.  Westpig 14 Dec 14 21:19
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 The C.I.A. and torture.  Westpig 14 Dec 14 11:49
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