London (Kings Cross) to Inverness is 538 miles and a little over 9 hours driving - say 11/12 hours with 3 stops. Fuel cost would be ~£70 assuming 50 mpg + £? for tyre wear etc. With more than one in the car there is no contest in terms of cost vs train.
Driving 500+ miles may be regarded as onerous. So EasyJet fly from Gatwick and Luton with fares of £50-150. A fair comparison with off-peak trains would be (say) £60-80. Flight time is ~90 minutes.
There are also several coaches a day from Inverness to London with fares below £30 - although the 12-15 hour journey requires some stamina.
Personal choice would depend largely on (a) door to door time which in turn depends on precise destination and starting point, and (b) cost.
Conclusion. Off peak train loses to air travel on both costs and time grounds. It loses against cars on cost particularly with two or more occupants. A (somewhat doubtful) argument for train could be made only if the door to door time largely avoided travel to/from termini.
As a technology trains function well (albeit with high fares) on commuter routes into major urban areas, and (again at a fairly high subsidised cost) between major city centres. As a social service providing transport for those unable to access other modes ......... the jury is out.
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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No FM2R |
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5 Jan 20 14:03 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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Bromptonaut |
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5 Jan 20 15:04 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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Zero |
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5 Jan 20 16:11 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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Bromptonaut |
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5 Jan 20 16:22 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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Rudedog |
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5 Jan 20 17:17 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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Zero |
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5 Jan 20 17:36 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revie.. |
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Terry |
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5 Jan 20 17:46 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. |
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Bromptonaut |
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5 Jan 20 18:13 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. |
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Terry |
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5 Jan 20 18:33 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. |
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Zero |
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5 Jan 20 19:06 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. |
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Bromptonaut |
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5 Jan 20 19:53 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. |
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No FM2R |
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5 Jan 20 20:04 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. |
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legacylad |
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5 Jan 20 18:18 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. |
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No FM2R |
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5 Jan 20 18:30 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. |
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CGNorwich |
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5 Jan 20 18:49 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. |
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Zero |
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5 Jan 20 19:13 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. |
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Zero |
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5 Jan 20 19:15 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. |
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zippy |
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5 Jan 20 20:41 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. |
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Zero |
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5 Jan 20 21:20 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says.. |
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No FM2R |
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5 Jan 20 21:25 |
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HS2 costs out of control, say.. |
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Terry |
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5 Jan 20 21:46 |
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HS2 costs out of control, sa.. |
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Zero |
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5 Jan 20 22:35 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says.. |
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zippy |
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5 Jan 20 21:52 |
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HS2 costs out of control, say.. |
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Zero |
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5 Jan 20 22:34 |
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HS2 costs out of control, sa.. |
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CGNorwich |
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5 Jan 20 22:54 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. |
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Kevin |
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5 Jan 20 23:00 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says.. |
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Terry |
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6 Jan 20 00:46 |
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HS2 costs out of control, say.. |
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No FM2R |
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6 Jan 20 01:47 |
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HS2 costs out of control, sa.. |
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Lygonos |
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6 Jan 20 09:53 |
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HS2 costs out of control, s.. |
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smokie |
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6 Jan 20 10:05 |
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HS2 costs out of control, s.. |
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No FM2R |
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6 Jan 20 10:06 |
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HS2 costs out of control, say.. |
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Bromptonaut |
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6 Jan 20 10:40 |
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HS2 costs out of control, sa.. |
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Zero |
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6 Jan 20 10:51 |
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HS2 costs out of control, s.. |
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Netsur |
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6 Jan 20 16:41 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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No FM2R |
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6 Jan 20 17:07 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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Bromptonaut |
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6 Jan 20 17:30 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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No FM2R |
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6 Jan 20 17:39 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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tyrednemotional |
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7 Jan 20 07:17 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revie.. |
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Manatee |
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7 Jan 20 10:18 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. |
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No FM2R |
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7 Jan 20 11:00 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. |
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No FM2R |
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7 Jan 20 11:02 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. |
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No FM2R |
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7 Jan 20 11:37 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. |
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zippy |
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7 Jan 20 14:53 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. |
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tyrednemotional |
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7 Jan 20 17:26 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. |
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Crankcase |
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7 Jan 20 17:52 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. |
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Zero |
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7 Jan 20 17:56 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. |
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Crankcase |
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7 Jan 20 18:00 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says.. |
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Zero |
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7 Jan 20 18:24 |
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HS2 costs out of control, say.. |
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Zero |
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7 Jan 20 18:26 |
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HS2 costs out of control, say.. |
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Crankcase |
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7 Jan 20 18:34 |
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HS2 costs out of control, sa.. |
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Zero |
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7 Jan 20 19:00 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. |
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tyrednemotional |
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7 Jan 20 18:22 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. |
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No FM2R |
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7 Jan 20 18:57 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says.. |
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tyrednemotional |
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7 Jan 20 21:41 |
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HS2 costs out of control, say.. |
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No FM2R |
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7 Jan 20 21:45 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. |
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Manatee |
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8 Jan 20 10:11 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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sooty123 |
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11 Feb 20 08:38 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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Lygonos |
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11 Feb 20 10:11 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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Zero |
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11 Feb 20 10:18 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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PeterS |
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11 Feb 20 10:47 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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Robin O'Reliant |
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11 Feb 20 10:59 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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Manatee |
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11 Feb 20 11:52 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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Bromptonaut |
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11 Feb 20 16:48 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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Bromptonaut |
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11 Feb 20 18:29 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revie.. |
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Terry |
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11 Feb 20 23:32 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. |
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zippy |
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12 Feb 20 01:33 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. |
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Terry |
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12 Feb 20 09:23 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. |
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sooty123 |
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12 Feb 20 10:54 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. |
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zippy |
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12 Feb 20 11:25 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. |
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sooty123 |
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12 Feb 20 10:49 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. |
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Bromptonaut |
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12 Feb 20 11:13 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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Manatee |
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12 Feb 20 10:34 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revie.. |
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sooty123 |
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12 Feb 20 11:21 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. |
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Terry |
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12 Feb 20 15:57 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. |
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No FM2R |
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12 Feb 20 16:09 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. |
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CGNorwich |
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12 Feb 20 16:49 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. |
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sooty123 |
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12 Feb 20 16:54 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. |
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No FM2R |
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12 Feb 20 16:57 |
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HS3 up for the chop? |
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sooty123 |
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15 Nov 21 11:00 |
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HS3 up for the chop? |
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sooty123 |
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15 Nov 21 20:53 |
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HS3 up for the chop? |
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Bromptonaut |
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16 Nov 21 10:33 |
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HS3 up for the chop? |
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sooty123 |
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16 Nov 21 13:21 |
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HS3 up for the chop? |
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bathtub tom |
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16 Nov 21 16:03 |
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HS3 up for the chop? |
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Clk Sec |
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16 Nov 21 17:07 |
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HS3 up for the chop? |
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sooty123 |
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18 Nov 21 07:43 |
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HS3 up for the chop? |
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Terry |
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18 Nov 21 10:43 |
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HS3 up for the chop? |
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Zero |
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18 Nov 21 10:58 |
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HS3 up for the chop? |
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No FM2R |
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18 Nov 21 11:09 |
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HS3 up for the chop? |
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Zero |
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18 Nov 21 20:23 |
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HS3 up for the chop? |
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No FM2R |
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18 Nov 21 11:11 |
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HS3 up for the chop? |
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sooty123 |
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18 Nov 21 12:10 |
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HS3 up for the chop? |
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Manatee |
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18 Nov 21 12:24 |
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HS3 up for the chop? |
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sooty123 |
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18 Nov 21 22:13 |
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HS3 up for the chop? |
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Terry |
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19 Nov 21 02:33 |
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HS3 up for the chop? |
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No FM2R |
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19 Nov 21 04:02 |
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HS3 up for the chop? |
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sooty123 |
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19 Nov 21 07:50 |
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HS3 up for the chop? |
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Zero |
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20 Nov 21 11:49 |
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HS3 up for the chop? |
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Bromptonaut |
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20 Nov 21 15:11 |
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more delays |
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sooty123 |
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27 Jan 23 09:23 |
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more delays |
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tyrednemotional |
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27 Jan 23 09:29 |
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more delays |
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Bromptonaut |
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27 Jan 23 09:41 |
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more delays |
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Bromptonaut |
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27 Jan 23 09:53 |
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more delays |
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tyrednemotional |
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27 Jan 23 09:59 |
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more delays |
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Terry |
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27 Jan 23 10:50 |
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more delays |
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Manatee |
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27 Jan 23 10:55 |
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more delays |
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Bromptonaut |
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27 Jan 23 13:34 |
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more delays |
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henry k |
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10 Mar 23 14:00 |
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more delays |
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sooty123 |
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9 Mar 23 19:28 |
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more delays |
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Kevin |
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9 Mar 23 19:56 |
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more delays |
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Zero |
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9 Mar 23 21:40 |
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more delays |
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tyrednemotional |
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9 Mar 23 22:07 |
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more delays |
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legacylad |
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9 Mar 23 22:25 |
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more delays |
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tyrednemotional |
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9 Mar 23 22:30 |
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more delays |
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legacylad |
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9 Mar 23 22:35 |
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more delays |
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Kevin |
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9 Mar 23 22:31 |
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more delays |
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tyrednemotional |
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9 Mar 23 22:35 |
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more delays |
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Terry |
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10 Mar 23 00:28 |
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more delays |
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tyrednemotional |
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10 Mar 23 09:21 |
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more delays |
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sooty123 |
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14 Sep 23 15:33 |
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more delays |
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tyrednemotional |
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14 Sep 23 16:16 |
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more delays |
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Terry |
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14 Sep 23 19:39 |
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more delays |
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Ted |
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14 Sep 23 22:19 |
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more delays |
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Bromptonaut |
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15 Sep 23 09:40 |
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more delays |
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Terry |
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15 Sep 23 10:32 |
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more delays |
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Bromptonaut |
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16 Sep 23 10:17 |
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more delays |
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Terry |
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16 Sep 23 14:10 |
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more delays |
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sooty123 |
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15 Sep 23 11:23 |
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cancellation on the way? |
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sooty123 |
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24 Sep 23 10:09 |
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cancellation on the way? |
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Bromptonaut |
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24 Sep 23 10:36 |
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cancellation on the way? |
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Terry |
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24 Sep 23 10:48 |
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cancellation on the way? |
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Duncan |
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24 Sep 23 10:55 |
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cancellation on the way? |
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Biggles |
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24 Sep 23 12:50 |
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cancellation on the way? |
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Bromptonaut |
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24 Sep 23 16:54 |
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cancellation on the way? |
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sooty123 |
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24 Sep 23 10:48 |
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cancellation on the way? |
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Duncan |
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24 Sep 23 10:57 |
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cancellation on the way? |
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CGNorwich |
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24 Sep 23 11:10 |
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cancellation on the way? |
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Runfer D'Hills |
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24 Sep 23 11:24 |
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cancellation on the way? |
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Biggles |
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24 Sep 23 12:52 |
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cancellation on the way? |
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Bromptonaut |
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24 Sep 23 12:58 |
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cancellation on the way? |
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Terry |
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24 Sep 23 14:45 |
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cancellation on the way? |
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Bromptonaut |
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24 Sep 23 16:32 |
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cancellation on the way? |
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CGNorwich |
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24 Sep 23 21:10 |
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cancellation on the way? |
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Duncan |
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24 Sep 23 14:59 |
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cancellation on the way? |
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Runfer D'Hills |
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24 Sep 23 15:42 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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Bromptonaut |
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28 Sep 23 14:59 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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sooty123 |
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4 Oct 23 19:17 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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Manatee |
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4 Oct 23 20:07 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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sooty123 |
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4 Oct 23 20:14 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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Manatee |
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4 Oct 23 20:39 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revie.. |
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sooty123 |
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4 Oct 23 21:08 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. |
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smokie |
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4 Oct 23 22:01 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. |
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tyrednemotional |
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4 Oct 23 22:24 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. |
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Manatee |
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4 Oct 23 22:38 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. |
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Manatee |
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4 Oct 23 22:01 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. |
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Terry |
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5 Oct 23 01:48 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. |
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sooty123 |
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5 Oct 23 06:50 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. |
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Bobby |
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5 Oct 23 07:46 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. |
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Manatee |
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5 Oct 23 08:56 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. |
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smokie |
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5 Oct 23 10:25 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. |
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Terry |
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5 Oct 23 10:32 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says.. |
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CGNorwich |
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5 Oct 23 10:52 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. |
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Manatee |
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5 Oct 23 11:38 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says.. |
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Manatee |
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5 Oct 23 14:54 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says.. |
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Terry |
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5 Oct 23 16:27 |
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HS2 costs out of control, say.. |
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sooty123 |
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5 Oct 23 19:41 |
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HS2 costs out of control, sa.. |
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smokie |
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5 Oct 23 20:11 |
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HS2 costs out of control, s.. |
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Terry |
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6 Oct 23 11:16 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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Kevin |
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6 Oct 23 13:08 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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Terry |
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6 Oct 23 15:59 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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Manatee |
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6 Oct 23 18:15 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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Terry |
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6 Oct 23 19:27 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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Kevin |
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6 Oct 23 19:28 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revie.. |
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Manatee |
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6 Oct 23 20:20 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. |
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sooty123 |
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6 Oct 23 20:55 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. |
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Bromptonaut |
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6 Oct 23 22:39 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. |
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sooty123 |
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6 Oct 23 23:03 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. |
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sooty123 |
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6 Oct 23 23:11 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. |
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smokie |
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7 Oct 23 00:05 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. |
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tyrednemotional |
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7 Oct 23 09:02 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says.. |
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Bromptonaut |
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7 Oct 23 10:24 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. |
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Manatee |
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7 Oct 23 11:08 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. |
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Manatee |
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7 Oct 23 11:12 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. |
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Manatee |
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7 Oct 23 11:19 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says.. |
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sooty123 |
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7 Oct 23 11:41 |
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HS2 costs out of control, say.. |
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Bromptonaut |
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7 Oct 23 11:49 |
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HS2 costs out of control, sa.. |
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sooty123 |
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7 Oct 23 15:58 |
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HS2 costs out of control, s.. |
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tyrednemotional |
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7 Oct 23 16:25 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. |
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Terry |
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7 Oct 23 15:10 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says.. |
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Manatee |
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7 Oct 23 18:39 |
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HS2 costs out of control, say.. |
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Terry |
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7 Oct 23 19:02 |
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HS2 costs out of control, sa.. |
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Manatee |
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7 Oct 23 20:16 |
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HS2 costs out of control, say.. |
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Bobby |
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7 Oct 23 19:03 |
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HS2 costs out of control, sa.. |
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Bromptonaut |
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7 Oct 23 20:41 |
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HS2 costs out of control, s.. |
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tyrednemotional |
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7 Oct 23 20:50 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review |
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Bromptonaut |
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7 Oct 23 20:54 |
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