>> In brief - trains are INFLEXIBLE and COSTLY. I will not be using them and
>> as a taxpayer do not want to subsidise those who do!
Neither of the capitalised words reflect in, any way shape or form, my own experience or that of my adult children.
I'd accept, for purposes of this discussion, that long distance trains are, for travelling as a family, rarely competitive with the perceived (as opposed to real) cost of a car travel. London is an obvious exception and, from here same goes for Birmingham, mainly because the train company, for many years, offered multi save tickets where three or four travel for price of two. The start point there is Northampton.
My daughter was at University in Sheffield from 2011 to 14. It was pretty easy for her to get a train between Sheffield and Wellingborough (about half an hour drive) with a range of cheap tickets. Similarly visits to or by her boyfriend who was at Uni in Southampton were easily facilitated on the at least hourly cross-country service from Southampton/Bournemouth to NE or NW which called at Banbury. Again a half hour drive and again lots of cheap fares.
I can visit my son in Liverpool for less than £20 return changing once at New Street. Last time we drove it cost more than that to park for two days!!
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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No FM2R |
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5 Jan 20 14:03 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Bromptonaut |
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5 Jan 20 15:04 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Zero |
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5 Jan 20 16:11 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Bromptonaut |
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5 Jan 20 16:22 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Rudedog |
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5 Jan 20 17:17 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Zero |
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5 Jan 20 17:36 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revie.. new |
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Terry |
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5 Jan 20 17:46 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. new |
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Bromptonaut |
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5 Jan 20 18:13 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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Terry |
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5 Jan 20 18:33 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. new |
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Zero |
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5 Jan 20 19:06 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. new |
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Bromptonaut |
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5 Jan 20 19:53 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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No FM2R |
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5 Jan 20 20:04 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. new |
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legacylad |
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5 Jan 20 18:18 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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No FM2R |
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5 Jan 20 18:30 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. new |
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CGNorwich |
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5 Jan 20 18:49 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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Zero |
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5 Jan 20 19:13 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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Zero |
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5 Jan 20 19:15 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. new |
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zippy |
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5 Jan 20 20:41 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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Zero |
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5 Jan 20 21:20 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says.. new |
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No FM2R |
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5 Jan 20 21:25 |
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HS2 costs out of control, say.. new |
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Terry |
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5 Jan 20 21:46 |
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HS2 costs out of control, sa.. new |
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Zero |
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5 Jan 20 22:35 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says.. new |
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zippy |
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5 Jan 20 21:52 |
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HS2 costs out of control, say.. new |
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Zero |
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5 Jan 20 22:34 |
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HS2 costs out of control, sa.. new |
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CGNorwich |
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5 Jan 20 22:54 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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Kevin |
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5 Jan 20 23:00 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says.. new |
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Terry |
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6 Jan 20 00:46 |
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HS2 costs out of control, say.. new |
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No FM2R |
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6 Jan 20 01:47 |
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HS2 costs out of control, sa.. new |
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Lygonos |
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6 Jan 20 09:53 |
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HS2 costs out of control, s.. new |
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smokie |
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6 Jan 20 10:05 |
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HS2 costs out of control, s.. new |
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No FM2R |
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6 Jan 20 10:06 |
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HS2 costs out of control, .. new |
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Bromptonaut |
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6 Jan 20 10:40 |
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HS2 costs out of control, sa.. new |
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Zero |
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6 Jan 20 10:51 |
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HS2 costs out of control, s.. new |
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Netsur |
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6 Jan 20 16:41 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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No FM2R |
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6 Jan 20 17:07 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Bromptonaut |
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6 Jan 20 17:30 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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No FM2R |
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6 Jan 20 17:39 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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tyrednemotional |
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7 Jan 20 07:17 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revie.. new |
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Manatee |
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7 Jan 20 10:18 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. new |
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No FM2R |
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7 Jan 20 11:00 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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No FM2R |
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7 Jan 20 11:02 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. new |
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No FM2R |
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7 Jan 20 11:37 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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zippy |
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7 Jan 20 14:53 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. new |
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tyrednemotional |
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7 Jan 20 17:26 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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Crankcase |
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7 Jan 20 17:52 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. new |
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Zero |
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7 Jan 20 17:56 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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Crankcase |
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7 Jan 20 18:00 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says.. new |
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Zero |
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7 Jan 20 18:24 |
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HS2 costs out of control, say.. new |
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Zero |
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7 Jan 20 18:26 |
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HS2 costs out of control, say.. new |
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Crankcase |
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7 Jan 20 18:34 |
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HS2 costs out of control, sa.. new |
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Zero |
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7 Jan 20 19:00 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. new |
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tyrednemotional |
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7 Jan 20 18:22 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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No FM2R |
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7 Jan 20 18:57 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says.. new |
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tyrednemotional |
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7 Jan 20 21:41 |
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HS2 costs out of control, say.. new |
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No FM2R |
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7 Jan 20 21:45 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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Manatee |
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8 Jan 20 10:11 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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sooty123 |
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11 Feb 20 08:38 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Lygonos |
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11 Feb 20 10:11 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Zero |
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11 Feb 20 10:18 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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PeterS |
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11 Feb 20 10:47 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Robin O'Reliant |
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11 Feb 20 10:59 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Manatee |
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11 Feb 20 11:52 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Bromptonaut |
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11 Feb 20 16:48 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Bromptonaut |
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11 Feb 20 18:29 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revie.. new |
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Terry |
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11 Feb 20 23:32 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. new |
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zippy |
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12 Feb 20 01:33 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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Terry |
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12 Feb 20 09:23 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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sooty123 |
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12 Feb 20 10:54 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. new |
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zippy |
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12 Feb 20 11:25 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. new |
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sooty123 |
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12 Feb 20 10:49 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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Bromptonaut |
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12 Feb 20 11:13 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Manatee |
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12 Feb 20 10:34 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revie.. new |
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sooty123 |
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12 Feb 20 11:21 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. new |
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Terry |
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12 Feb 20 15:57 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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No FM2R |
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12 Feb 20 16:09 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. new |
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CGNorwich |
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12 Feb 20 16:49 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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sooty123 |
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12 Feb 20 16:54 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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No FM2R |
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12 Feb 20 16:57 |
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HS3 up for the chop? new |
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sooty123 |
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15 Nov 21 11:00 |
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HS3 up for the chop? new |
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sooty123 |
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15 Nov 21 20:53 |
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HS3 up for the chop? new |
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Bromptonaut |
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16 Nov 21 10:33 |
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HS3 up for the chop? new |
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sooty123 |
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16 Nov 21 13:21 |
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HS3 up for the chop? new |
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bathtub tom |
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16 Nov 21 16:03 |
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HS3 up for the chop? new |
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Clk Sec |
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16 Nov 21 17:07 |
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HS3 up for the chop? new |
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sooty123 |
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18 Nov 21 07:43 |
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HS3 up for the chop? new |
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Terry |
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18 Nov 21 10:43 |
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HS3 up for the chop? new |
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Zero |
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18 Nov 21 10:58 |
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HS3 up for the chop? new |
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No FM2R |
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18 Nov 21 11:09 |
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HS3 up for the chop? new |
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Zero |
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18 Nov 21 20:23 |
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HS3 up for the chop? new |
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No FM2R |
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18 Nov 21 11:11 |
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HS3 up for the chop? new |
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sooty123 |
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18 Nov 21 12:10 |
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HS3 up for the chop? new |
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Manatee |
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18 Nov 21 12:24 |
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HS3 up for the chop? new |
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sooty123 |
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18 Nov 21 22:13 |
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HS3 up for the chop? new |
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Terry |
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19 Nov 21 02:33 |
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HS3 up for the chop? new |
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No FM2R |
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19 Nov 21 04:02 |
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HS3 up for the chop? new |
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sooty123 |
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19 Nov 21 07:50 |
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HS3 up for the chop? new |
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Zero |
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20 Nov 21 11:49 |
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HS3 up for the chop? new |
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Bromptonaut |
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20 Nov 21 15:11 |
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more delays new |
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sooty123 |
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27 Jan 23 09:23 |
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more delays new |
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tyrednemotional |
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27 Jan 23 09:29 |
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more delays new |
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Bromptonaut |
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27 Jan 23 09:41 |
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more delays new |
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Bromptonaut |
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27 Jan 23 09:53 |
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more delays new |
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tyrednemotional |
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27 Jan 23 09:59 |
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more delays new |
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Terry |
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27 Jan 23 10:50 |
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more delays new |
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Manatee |
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27 Jan 23 10:55 |
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more delays new |
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Bromptonaut |
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27 Jan 23 13:34 |
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more delays new |
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henry k |
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10 Mar 23 14:00 |
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more delays new |
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sooty123 |
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9 Mar 23 19:28 |
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more delays new |
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Kevin |
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9 Mar 23 19:56 |
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more delays new |
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Zero |
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9 Mar 23 21:40 |
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more delays new |
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tyrednemotional |
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9 Mar 23 22:07 |
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more delays new |
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legacylad |
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9 Mar 23 22:25 |
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more delays new |
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tyrednemotional |
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9 Mar 23 22:30 |
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more delays new |
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legacylad |
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9 Mar 23 22:35 |
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more delays new |
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Kevin |
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9 Mar 23 22:31 |
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more delays new |
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tyrednemotional |
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9 Mar 23 22:35 |
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more delays new |
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Terry |
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10 Mar 23 00:28 |
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more delays new |
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tyrednemotional |
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10 Mar 23 09:21 |
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more delays new |
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sooty123 |
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14 Sep 23 15:33 |
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more delays new |
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tyrednemotional |
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14 Sep 23 16:16 |
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more delays new |
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Terry |
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14 Sep 23 19:39 |
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more delays new |
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Ted |
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14 Sep 23 22:19 |
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more delays new |
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Bromptonaut |
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15 Sep 23 09:40 |
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more delays new |
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Terry |
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15 Sep 23 10:32 |
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more delays new |
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Bromptonaut |
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16 Sep 23 10:17 |
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more delays new |
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Terry |
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16 Sep 23 14:10 |
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more delays new |
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sooty123 |
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15 Sep 23 11:23 |
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cancellation on the way? new |
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sooty123 |
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24 Sep 23 10:09 |
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cancellation on the way? new |
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Bromptonaut |
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24 Sep 23 10:36 |
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cancellation on the way? new |
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Terry |
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24 Sep 23 10:48 |
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cancellation on the way? new |
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Duncan |
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24 Sep 23 10:55 |
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cancellation on the way? new |
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Biggles |
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24 Sep 23 12:50 |
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cancellation on the way? new |
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Bromptonaut |
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24 Sep 23 16:54 |
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cancellation on the way? new |
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sooty123 |
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24 Sep 23 10:48 |
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cancellation on the way? new |
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Duncan |
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24 Sep 23 10:57 |
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cancellation on the way? new |
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CGNorwich |
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24 Sep 23 11:10 |
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cancellation on the way? new |
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Runfer D'Hills |
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24 Sep 23 11:24 |
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cancellation on the way? new |
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Biggles |
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24 Sep 23 12:52 |
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cancellation on the way? new |
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Bromptonaut |
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24 Sep 23 12:58 |
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cancellation on the way? new |
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Terry |
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24 Sep 23 14:45 |
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cancellation on the way? new |
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Bromptonaut |
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24 Sep 23 16:32 |
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cancellation on the way? new |
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CGNorwich |
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24 Sep 23 21:10 |
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cancellation on the way? new |
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Duncan |
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24 Sep 23 14:59 |
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cancellation on the way? new |
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Runfer D'Hills |
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24 Sep 23 15:42 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Bromptonaut |
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28 Sep 23 14:59 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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sooty123 |
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4 Oct 23 19:17 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Manatee |
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4 Oct 23 20:07 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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sooty123 |
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4 Oct 23 20:14 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Manatee |
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4 Oct 23 20:39 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revie.. new |
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sooty123 |
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4 Oct 23 21:08 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. new |
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smokie |
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4 Oct 23 22:01 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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tyrednemotional |
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4 Oct 23 22:24 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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Manatee |
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4 Oct 23 22:38 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. new |
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Manatee |
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4 Oct 23 22:01 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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Terry |
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5 Oct 23 01:48 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. new |
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sooty123 |
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5 Oct 23 06:50 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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Bobby |
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5 Oct 23 07:46 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. new |
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Manatee |
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5 Oct 23 08:56 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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smokie |
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5 Oct 23 10:25 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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Terry |
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5 Oct 23 10:32 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says.. new |
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CGNorwich |
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5 Oct 23 10:52 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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Manatee |
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5 Oct 23 11:38 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says.. new |
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Manatee |
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5 Oct 23 14:54 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says.. new |
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Terry |
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5 Oct 23 16:27 |
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HS2 costs out of control, say.. new |
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sooty123 |
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5 Oct 23 19:41 |
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HS2 costs out of control, sa.. new |
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smokie |
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5 Oct 23 20:11 |
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HS2 costs out of control, s.. new |
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Terry |
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6 Oct 23 11:16 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Kevin |
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6 Oct 23 13:08 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Terry |
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6 Oct 23 15:59 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Manatee |
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6 Oct 23 18:15 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Terry |
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6 Oct 23 19:27 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Kevin |
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6 Oct 23 19:28 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revie.. new |
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Manatee |
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6 Oct 23 20:20 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. new |
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sooty123 |
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6 Oct 23 20:55 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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Bromptonaut |
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6 Oct 23 22:39 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. new |
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sooty123 |
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6 Oct 23 23:03 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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sooty123 |
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6 Oct 23 23:11 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. new |
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smokie |
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7 Oct 23 00:05 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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tyrednemotional |
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7 Oct 23 09:02 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says.. new |
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Bromptonaut |
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7 Oct 23 10:24 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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Manatee |
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7 Oct 23 11:08 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says re.. new |
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Manatee |
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7 Oct 23 11:12 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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Manatee |
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7 Oct 23 11:19 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says.. new |
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sooty123 |
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7 Oct 23 11:41 |
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HS2 costs out of control, say.. new |
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Bromptonaut |
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7 Oct 23 11:49 |
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HS2 costs out of control, sa.. new |
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sooty123 |
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7 Oct 23 15:58 |
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HS2 costs out of control, s.. new |
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tyrednemotional |
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7 Oct 23 16:25 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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Terry |
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7 Oct 23 15:10 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says.. new |
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Manatee |
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7 Oct 23 18:39 |
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HS2 costs out of control, say.. new |
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Terry |
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7 Oct 23 19:02 |
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HS2 costs out of control, sa.. new |
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Manatee |
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7 Oct 23 20:16 |
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HS2 costs out of control, say.. new |
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Bobby |
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7 Oct 23 19:03 |
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HS2 costs out of control, sa.. new |
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Bromptonaut |
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7 Oct 23 20:41 |
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HS2 costs out of control, s.. new |
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tyrednemotional |
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7 Oct 23 20:50 |
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HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Bromptonaut |
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7 Oct 23 20:54 |
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