No need for an apology - I can understand your viewpoint. I have been less than impressed over the last 6 years with the Tories, despite supporting them on a more philosophical level:
- I was a firm (and disappointed) remainer
- choice for leader in 2019 would have been Rory Stewart (idealist)
- second place was Jeremy Hunt who I thought sound
- Boris was blessed with great talents and equally (ultimately destructive) flaws
- Boris lost touch with reality and simply li ed - he got what he deserved
- Liz Truss was not to be trusted from the outset and effectively incompetent
- Sunak to my my is rational and fair (as is Sir Kier).
- Sunak may aspire to be a Thatcher but he is not in the Johnson mould.
- the Tory party is beset by division in the ranks
- Tory election victory is unlikely - all Sunak can do is try to narrow the gap.
- Tories have 13 years of baggage, Labour have a largely clean slate
Politicians (on both sides) are individually generally decent and honest. Most could make a better living with far less intrusion and stress outside politics.
As politicians they crave control - without it they are largely impotent. against a dominant majority, they are completely impotent.
As a group their actions are dominated by the hunger for power - selective truths, cover ups, ambiguity, etc come to the fore. These behaviours are not only the preserve of the Tories.
There are some similarities with the Blair Brown years:
- Blair had the same election winning charm possessed by Boris.
- forced out - internal wrangling + failings in Iraq war, weapons of mass, destruction, etc
- many though him economical with the truth (lying??)
- Brown succeeded - a decent man lacking charisma.
- wrong man wrong time - carried the can for rising unemployment and financial crisis.
Looking forward, assuming a Labour majority - possibly small depending on LibDems and SNP:
- for 2 or 3 years any problems can conveniently be laid at the door of their predecessors
- with a following wind on the economy, inflation, unemployment they may get a second term
- by then it is they who will be carrying the baggage of 8-10 years in government
- they will start to adopt the behaviours we currently see from the Tories
- cover up, announcing the same projects as new multiple times, internal tensions etc
Perhaps I am cynical - perhaps Labour are and will be political paragons. But "I simply don't believe it" - to quote Victor Meldrew.
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5 Jan 20 14:03 |
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Bromptonaut |
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5 Jan 20 15:04 |
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Zero |
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5 Jan 20 16:11 |
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Bromptonaut |
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5 Jan 20 16:22 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Rudedog |
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5 Jan 20 17:17 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Zero |
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5 Jan 20 17:36 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says revie.. new |
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Terry |
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5 Jan 20 17:46 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. new |
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Bromptonaut |
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5 Jan 20 18:13 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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Terry |
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5 Jan 20 18:33 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says re.. new |
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Zero |
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5 Jan 20 19:06 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says re.. new |
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Bromptonaut |
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5 Jan 20 19:53 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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No FM2R |
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5 Jan 20 20:04 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. new |
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legacylad |
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5 Jan 20 18:18 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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No FM2R |
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5 Jan 20 18:30 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says re.. new |
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CGNorwich |
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5 Jan 20 18:49 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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Zero |
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5 Jan 20 19:13 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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Zero |
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5 Jan 20 19:15 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says re.. new |
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zippy |
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5 Jan 20 20:41 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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Zero |
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5 Jan 20 21:20 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says.. new |
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No FM2R |
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5 Jan 20 21:25 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, say.. new |
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Terry |
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5 Jan 20 21:46 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, sa.. new |
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Zero |
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5 Jan 20 22:35 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says.. new |
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zippy |
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5 Jan 20 21:52 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, say.. new |
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Zero |
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5 Jan 20 22:34 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, sa.. new |
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CGNorwich |
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5 Jan 20 22:54 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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Kevin |
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5 Jan 20 23:00 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says.. new |
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Terry |
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6 Jan 20 00:46 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, say.. new |
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6 Jan 20 01:47 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, sa.. new |
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Lygonos |
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6 Jan 20 09:53 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, s.. new |
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smokie |
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6 Jan 20 10:05 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, s.. new |
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No FM2R |
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6 Jan 20 10:06 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, say.. new |
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Bromptonaut |
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6 Jan 20 10:40 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, sa.. new |
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Zero |
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6 Jan 20 10:51 |
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Netsur |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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6 Jan 20 17:07 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Bromptonaut |
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6 Jan 20 17:30 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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No FM2R |
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6 Jan 20 17:39 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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tyrednemotional |
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7 Jan 20 07:17 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says revie.. new |
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Manatee |
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7 Jan 20 10:18 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. new |
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No FM2R |
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7 Jan 20 11:00 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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No FM2R |
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7 Jan 20 11:02 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says re.. new |
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No FM2R |
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7 Jan 20 11:37 |
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zippy |
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7 Jan 20 14:53 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. new |
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tyrednemotional |
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7 Jan 20 17:26 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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Crankcase |
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7 Jan 20 17:52 |
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Zero |
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7 Jan 20 17:56 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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Crankcase |
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7 Jan 20 18:00 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says.. new |
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Zero |
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7 Jan 20 18:24 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, say.. new |
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Zero |
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7 Jan 20 18:26 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, say.. new |
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Crankcase |
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7 Jan 20 18:34 |
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Zero |
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7 Jan 20 19:00 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says re.. new |
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tyrednemotional |
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7 Jan 20 18:22 |
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No FM2R |
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7 Jan 20 18:57 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says.. new |
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tyrednemotional |
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7 Jan 20 21:41 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, say.. new |
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7 Jan 20 21:45 |
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Manatee |
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sooty123 |
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11 Feb 20 08:38 |
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Lygonos |
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11 Feb 20 10:11 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Zero |
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11 Feb 20 10:18 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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PeterS |
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11 Feb 20 10:47 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Robin O'Reliant |
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11 Feb 20 10:59 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Manatee |
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11 Feb 20 11:52 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Bromptonaut |
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11 Feb 20 16:48 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Bromptonaut |
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11 Feb 20 18:29 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says revie.. new |
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Terry |
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11 Feb 20 23:32 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. new |
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zippy |
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12 Feb 20 01:33 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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Terry |
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12 Feb 20 09:23 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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sooty123 |
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12 Feb 20 10:54 |
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zippy |
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12 Feb 20 11:25 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. new |
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sooty123 |
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12 Feb 20 10:49 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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Bromptonaut |
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12 Feb 20 11:13 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Manatee |
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12 Feb 20 10:34 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says revie.. new |
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sooty123 |
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12 Feb 20 11:21 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. new |
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Terry |
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12 Feb 20 15:57 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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No FM2R |
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12 Feb 20 16:09 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says re.. new |
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CGNorwich |
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12 Feb 20 16:49 |
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sooty123 |
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12 Feb 20 16:54 |
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12 Feb 20 16:57 |
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| HS3 up for the chop? new |
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sooty123 |
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15 Nov 21 11:00 |
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sooty123 |
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15 Nov 21 20:53 |
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Bromptonaut |
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16 Nov 21 10:33 |
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sooty123 |
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bathtub tom |
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16 Nov 21 16:03 |
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Clk Sec |
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16 Nov 21 17:07 |
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| HS3 up for the chop? new |
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sooty123 |
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18 Nov 21 07:43 |
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| HS3 up for the chop? new |
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Terry |
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18 Nov 21 10:43 |
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| HS3 up for the chop? new |
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Zero |
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18 Nov 21 10:58 |
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| HS3 up for the chop? new |
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No FM2R |
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18 Nov 21 11:09 |
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| HS3 up for the chop? new |
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Zero |
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18 Nov 21 20:23 |
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| HS3 up for the chop? new |
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No FM2R |
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18 Nov 21 11:11 |
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| HS3 up for the chop? new |
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sooty123 |
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18 Nov 21 12:10 |
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| HS3 up for the chop? new |
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Manatee |
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18 Nov 21 12:24 |
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| HS3 up for the chop? new |
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sooty123 |
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18 Nov 21 22:13 |
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| HS3 up for the chop? new |
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Terry |
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19 Nov 21 02:33 |
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| HS3 up for the chop? new |
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No FM2R |
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19 Nov 21 04:02 |
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| HS3 up for the chop? new |
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sooty123 |
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19 Nov 21 07:50 |
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| HS3 up for the chop? new |
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Zero |
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20 Nov 21 11:49 |
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| HS3 up for the chop? new |
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Bromptonaut |
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20 Nov 21 15:11 |
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sooty123 |
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27 Jan 23 09:23 |
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tyrednemotional |
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27 Jan 23 09:29 |
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| more delays new |
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Bromptonaut |
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27 Jan 23 09:41 |
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| more delays new |
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Bromptonaut |
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27 Jan 23 09:53 |
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tyrednemotional |
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27 Jan 23 09:59 |
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| more delays new |
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Terry |
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27 Jan 23 10:50 |
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| more delays new |
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Manatee |
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27 Jan 23 10:55 |
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| more delays new |
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Bromptonaut |
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27 Jan 23 13:34 |
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| more delays new |
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henry k |
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10 Mar 23 14:00 |
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| more delays new |
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sooty123 |
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9 Mar 23 19:28 |
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| more delays new |
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Kevin |
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9 Mar 23 19:56 |
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| more delays new |
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Zero |
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9 Mar 23 21:40 |
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| more delays new |
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tyrednemotional |
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9 Mar 23 22:07 |
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| more delays new |
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legacylad |
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9 Mar 23 22:25 |
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| more delays new |
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tyrednemotional |
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9 Mar 23 22:30 |
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| more delays new |
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legacylad |
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9 Mar 23 22:35 |
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| more delays new |
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Kevin |
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9 Mar 23 22:31 |
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| more delays new |
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tyrednemotional |
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9 Mar 23 22:35 |
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| more delays new |
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Terry |
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10 Mar 23 00:28 |
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| more delays new |
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tyrednemotional |
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10 Mar 23 09:21 |
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| more delays new |
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sooty123 |
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14 Sep 23 15:33 |
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| more delays new |
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tyrednemotional |
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14 Sep 23 16:16 |
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| more delays new |
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Terry |
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14 Sep 23 19:39 |
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| more delays new |
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Ted |
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14 Sep 23 22:19 |
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| more delays new |
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Bromptonaut |
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15 Sep 23 09:40 |
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| more delays new |
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Terry |
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15 Sep 23 10:32 |
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| more delays new |
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Bromptonaut |
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16 Sep 23 10:17 |
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| more delays new |
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Terry |
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16 Sep 23 14:10 |
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| more delays new |
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sooty123 |
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15 Sep 23 11:23 |
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| cancellation on the way? new |
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sooty123 |
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24 Sep 23 10:09 |
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| cancellation on the way? new |
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Bromptonaut |
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24 Sep 23 10:36 |
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| cancellation on the way? new |
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Terry |
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24 Sep 23 10:48 |
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| cancellation on the way? new |
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Duncan |
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24 Sep 23 10:55 |
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| cancellation on the way? new |
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Biggles |
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24 Sep 23 12:50 |
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| cancellation on the way? new |
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Bromptonaut |
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24 Sep 23 16:54 |
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| cancellation on the way? new |
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sooty123 |
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24 Sep 23 10:48 |
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| cancellation on the way? new |
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Duncan |
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24 Sep 23 10:57 |
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| cancellation on the way? new |
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CGNorwich |
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24 Sep 23 11:10 |
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| cancellation on the way? new |
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Runfer D'Hills |
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24 Sep 23 11:24 |
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| cancellation on the way? new |
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Biggles |
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24 Sep 23 12:52 |
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| cancellation on the way? new |
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Bromptonaut |
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24 Sep 23 12:58 |
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| cancellation on the way? new |
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Terry |
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24 Sep 23 14:45 |
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| cancellation on the way? new |
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Bromptonaut |
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24 Sep 23 16:32 |
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| cancellation on the way? new |
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CGNorwich |
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24 Sep 23 21:10 |
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| cancellation on the way? new |
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Duncan |
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24 Sep 23 14:59 |
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| cancellation on the way? new |
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Runfer D'Hills |
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24 Sep 23 15:42 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Bromptonaut |
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28 Sep 23 14:59 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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sooty123 |
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4 Oct 23 19:17 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Manatee |
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4 Oct 23 20:07 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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sooty123 |
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4 Oct 23 20:14 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Manatee |
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4 Oct 23 20:39 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says revie.. new |
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sooty123 |
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4 Oct 23 21:08 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. new |
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smokie |
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4 Oct 23 22:01 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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tyrednemotional |
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4 Oct 23 22:24 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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Manatee |
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4 Oct 23 22:38 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. new |
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Manatee |
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4 Oct 23 22:01 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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Terry |
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5 Oct 23 01:48 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says re.. new |
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sooty123 |
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5 Oct 23 06:50 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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Bobby |
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5 Oct 23 07:46 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says re.. new |
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Manatee |
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5 Oct 23 08:56 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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smokie |
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5 Oct 23 10:25 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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Terry |
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5 Oct 23 10:32 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says.. new |
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CGNorwich |
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5 Oct 23 10:52 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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Manatee |
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5 Oct 23 11:38 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says.. new |
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Manatee |
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5 Oct 23 14:54 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, s.. new |
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Terry |
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5 Oct 23 16:27 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, say.. new |
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sooty123 |
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5 Oct 23 19:41 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, sa.. new |
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smokie |
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5 Oct 23 20:11 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, s.. new |
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Terry |
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Kevin |
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6 Oct 23 13:08 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Terry |
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6 Oct 23 15:59 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Manatee |
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6 Oct 23 18:15 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Terry |
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6 Oct 23 19:27 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says review new |
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Kevin |
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6 Oct 23 19:28 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says revie.. new |
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Manatee |
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6 Oct 23 20:20 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says revi.. new |
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sooty123 |
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6 Oct 23 20:55 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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Bromptonaut |
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6 Oct 23 22:39 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says re.. new |
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sooty123 |
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6 Oct 23 23:03 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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sooty123 |
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6 Oct 23 23:11 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says re.. new |
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smokie |
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7 Oct 23 00:05 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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tyrednemotional |
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7 Oct 23 09:02 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says.. new |
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Bromptonaut |
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7 Oct 23 10:24 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says rev.. new |
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Manatee |
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7 Oct 23 11:08 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says re.. new |
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Manatee |
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7 Oct 23 11:12 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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Manatee |
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7 Oct 23 11:19 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says.. new |
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sooty123 |
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7 Oct 23 11:41 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, say.. new |
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Bromptonaut |
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7 Oct 23 11:49 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, sa.. new |
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sooty123 |
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7 Oct 23 15:58 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, s.. new |
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tyrednemotional |
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7 Oct 23 16:25 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says r.. new |
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Terry |
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7 Oct 23 15:10 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, says.. new |
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Manatee |
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7 Oct 23 18:39 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, say.. new |
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Terry |
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7 Oct 23 19:02 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, sa.. new |
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Manatee |
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7 Oct 23 20:16 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, say.. new |
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Bobby |
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7 Oct 23 19:03 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, sa.. new |
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Bromptonaut |
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7 Oct 23 20:41 |
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| HS2 costs out of control, s.. new |
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tyrednemotional |
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7 Oct 23 20:50 |
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