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 Tories taking the p now. - Manatee
If he and his party were competent - or even acting in our best interest - we wouldn't be where we are with EU trade down ~25%, 5% inflation, such acute shortages, an insoluble problem with NI, a dissolving United Kingdom, and an ongoing, possibly permanent conflict between the isolationists and those who want a functioning relationship with Europe. Granted some of this has been exacerbated by Covid_19 but it's still quite an achievement.

It's hideous. How anybody can think there is any benefit at all in what these selfish, power-crazed crooks (remember the promises) have done defeats me.

I was an anti-federalist. No problem with the customs union, which worked. Free movement was probably having some adverse effects on UK workers but would have resolved eventually and could have been addressed without throwing out the bathwater, the baby and it seems everything in the house that was of value. It's as if they have deliberately destroyed all the good parts of being in the EU rather than trying to preserve them. Political union could not have been worse than what has been achieved.

I have absolutely no doubt now that we have already lost more since Brexit than we ever contributed to the EU.

To add to the bargain, we are now a divided nation with a broken democracy. It's too soon to say how future historians will describe this period in UK politics but I don't think there's much chance of Johnson getting a statue in Trafalgar Square.

That it's even possible to get a mandate to fix this might be in doubt. I don't think the importance of 'social media' as a tool for bad actors to rouse and control a mob can be under-estimated here either, aided by the way the algorithms work, and unless it can be neutralised we might never get out of this spiral of destruction. Maybe that's even more relevant than the referendum result. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say it is breaking down civilisation. Everything depends on how those who grow up with it will understand and use it.

Sounds far too hysterical I know, but I am beginning to think that anybody who isn't worried about Facebook etc. just doesn't understand how they work. It's not a coincidence that everything has gone crazy at the same time, and it doesn't require a conspiracy to explain it.
Last edited by: Manatee on Tue 21 Dec 21 at 10:21
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