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Thread Author: Meldrew	Replies: 24

New Thu 23 Feb 12 07:03   Some Interesting 2011 Car Sales Statistics 2011 - Meldrew

I came across these figures in the latest issue of Car magazine. The following manufacturers sold no cars at all in UK Cadillac Corvette Dodge Hummer Renault did not sell one Koleos Maybach with 5 sales outsold Citroen C6 which had 4 Sales drops were recorded by Mazda -31% Subaru -32% Smart -34% Proton -42% Lotus -43% Company car sales 1,118,159 Private car sales 823,094 Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 23 Feb 12 08:36   Some Interesting 2011 Car Sales Statistics 2011 - L'escargot

Company car sales have been about 60% of the total for ages. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 23 Feb 12 08:42   Some Interesting 2011 Car Sales Statistics 2011 - L'escargot

Here's some more statistics. tinyurl.com/7tddzqz Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 23 Feb 12 09:34   Some Interesting 2011 Car Sales Statistics 2011 - ToMoCo

A strong showing from Alfa Romeo, although small numbers compared to the likes of Ford, VW etc. Do the like of Cadillac even have any showrooms still in UK? I'm sure I have seen a few new registered Dodge Journey things? Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 23 Feb 12 09:37   Some Interesting 2011 Car Sales Statistics 2011 - ToMoCo

Also surprised that Mitsubishi outsell Subaru at nearly 4:1. Would the L200 account for this or is that classed as commercial? Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 23 Feb 12 09:39   Some Interesting 2011 Car Sales Statistics 2011 - Focusless

>> Would the L200 account for this or is that classed as commercial? Perhaps it's the little Colts? Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 23 Feb 12 09:42   Some Interesting 2011 Car Sales Statistics 2011 - Dog

Praps its the price more like it. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 23 Feb 12 09:41   Some Interesting 2011 Car Sales Statistics 2011 - Crankcase

How many actual car companies are on that list? About three? I've long since lost track of who owns who and which bits are shared etc... Edit: Found this from 2005. Probably all changed now. CAR COMPANIES :Who Owns Whom BMW Fully Owns *Mini *Rolls Royce *BMW AG Owned By: *Quandt family(46.6%) *Others(53.4%) DAIMLER CHRYSLER Fully Owns: *Daimler chrysler *Mercedes Benz(owns Maybach & Smart) Partly Owns: *McLaren(40%) *Mitsibushi(24.7%) Owned By: *Deutsche Bank(12%) *Kuwait Investments(7%) *Others FIAT Owns : *Fiat (fully) *Alfa Romeo(100%) *Lancia(100%) *Ferrari(56%)(Ferrari owns Maserati) Owned By: *Agnelli Family(30%) *Others(70%) HONDA Owns: *Honda Motor Corp. Owned By: *Japan Trustee Banks(7.1%) *Master trust bank of Japan(4.9%) *Others(88%) FORD Owns: *Aston Martin *Jaguar *Land Rover *Volvo *Mazda(33.4%) Owned By: *Common stock(60%) *Class B stock(family held)(40%) HYUNDAI Owns: *Hyundai motor co. *Kia motors corp. (47.4%) *Dongfeng Yueda Kia(50%) *Biejing Hyundai motor(50%) Owned By: *INI steel(5.3%) *Chung mong koo(5.2%) *Hyundai mobis(14.5%) GENERAL MOTORS Owns: *General Motors *Adam Opel *Holden *Saab automobile *Vauxhall *Suzuki(20.3%) *GM Daewoo(4.6%) *Isuzu(12%) *Fiat (10%) Owned By *Shareholders(100%) TOYOTA Owns: *Toyota motor corp. *Daihatsu motors(51.2%) Owned By: *Master trust bank of japan(7.8%) *Toyota(7.7%) *Others(85%) SUZUKI Owns: *Suzuki motor corp. *Maruti Udyog(54.2%) *GM Daewoo(14.9%) *Fuji Heavy (2.7%) Owned By: *GM(20.3%) *Fuji industries(1.1%) *Chase manhattan bank(8.1%) *Others(70.5%) VOLKSWAGEN AG Owns: *Volkswagen *Audi (99.1%)(Audi owns Lamborghini) *Bentley *Bugatti *Seat *Skoda Owned By: *Institutional Investors abroad(34.1%) *Share holders(33.1%) *VW(9.8%) *Others(20%) Last edited by: Crankcase on Thu 23 Feb 12 at 09:43 Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 23 Feb 12 09:50   Some Interesting 2011 Car Sales Statistics 2011 - Zero

As of 2011, Fiat owns 53% of Chrysler Which is where you can lay the blame for those hideous looking chrysler badged Lancias, that will be hitting a street near you soon. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 23 Feb 12 10:02   Some Interesting 2011 Car Sales Statistics 2011 - zippy

I think Tata now owns Land Rover and Jaguar. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 23 Feb 12 10:14   Some Interesting 2011 Car Sales Statistics 2011 - rtj70

A few corrections/additions: - Ferrari does not own Masserati anymore - it was transferred to Alfa Romeo - Ford obviously no longer owns Jaguar Land Rover, Aston Martin or Volvo. - Ford offloaded some (all?) of their shares in Mazda - no longer has a controlling stake. - VW AG owns about 19% of Suzuki - About 33% of VW AG is owned by Porsche - it was until recently and the full merger has yet to happen - GM does not own SAAB and they no longer have a stake in FIAT. - FIAT owns a big chunk of Chrysler now. - Daimler Chrysler is no more. That broke up a while back. Last edited by: rtj70 on Thu 23 Feb 12 at 10:17 Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 23 Feb 12 11:52   Some Interesting 2011 Car Sales Statistics 2011 - Auristocrat

Toyota owns 7.8% of Subaru. Daihatsu, a subsidiary of Toyota, own a majority stake in Perodua. The VW relationship with Suzuki has soured over promised levels of investment in Suzuki not being forthcoming - resulting in Suzuki trying to force VW to give up its 19% shareholding. Fiat owns 58.5% of Chrysler. Ford still owns about 8% of Aston Martin. VW owns 49.9% of Porsche. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 23 Feb 12 12:36   Some Interesting 2011 Car Sales Statistics 2011 - rtj70

>> Ford still owns about 8% of Aston Martin. Didn't know that. >> VW owns 49.9% of Porsche. and Porsche about 33% of VW AG. They were meant to merge to sort out the mess Porsche created when they tried to buy VW a few years ago. At one point they pushed the share price for VW to around £1000 whilst the trades that were made were unwound so to speak. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 23 Feb 12 12:44   Some Interesting 2011 Car Sales Statistics 2011 - Dog

And www.am-online.com/news/2012/2/22/peugeot-citroen-considers-collaboration-with-other-carmakers/30541/ Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 23 Feb 12 15:12   Some Interesting 2011 Car Sales Statistics 2011 - PR

Fiat owns 90% of Ferrari, the other 10% being Mubadala (Abu Dhabi) investment fund. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 23 Feb 12 18:57   Some Interesting 2011 Car Sales Statistics 2011 - mikeyb

>> A few corrections/additions: >> - Daimler Chrysler is no more. That broke up a while back. >> Slightly off topic, but Daimler do own a large proportion of EADS - owners of Airbus. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 23 Feb 12 16:05   Some Interesting 2011 Car Sales Statistics 2011 - Falkirk Bairn

>> Company car sales 1,118,159 >> Private car sales 823,094 >> How many Private sales are employees buying their own car and claim monthly allowance & Mileage............almost a company car as if you do a reasonable business mileage and are careful you can buy a car & the way you drive "The Company" can provide you with Cheap or nearly Free Motoring. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 24 Feb 12 10:45   Some Interesting 2011 Car Sales Statistics 2011 - Bill Payer

>> How many Private sales are employees buying their own car and claim monthly allowance & >> Mileage...... You'd think it would be a fair number, but then company car sales should drop and they're apparently fairly constant. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 24 Feb 12 11:00   Some Interesting 2011 Car Sales Statistics 2011 - RattleandSmoke

If it wasn't for the fact I could claim so much back I am not sure if I would have spent so much on a car. Although my car was a private sale I do refer it as it being an asset of the company. E.g it is a business car. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 24 Feb 12 11:37   Some Interesting 2011 Car Sales Statistics 2011 - rtj70

So if the car belongs to your company and you drive it for private miles - you have to pay tax on the benefit in kind. Sounds like you're bending the rules a bit. Or are you saying you charge a fixed amount per mile for the business stuff and the car is owned by you. This is all probably different when a sole trader? But if the business is funding the car and you use it privately isn't that a benefit? Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 24 Feb 12 11:50   Some Interesting 2011 Car Sales Statistics 2011 - RattleandSmoke

The car is legally my own personal car, for social justification it is a business car. I work out the personal and business miles and claim a proportionate level expenses according to the business miles I do. It is usually around 70% business. On the personal miles I don't claim a penny. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 24 Feb 12 13:12   Some Interesting 2011 Car Sales Statistics 2011 - Boxsterboy

I thought HMRC rules only allowed a private car owner to claim 40 pence per mile of business use? Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 24 Feb 12 14:56   Some Interesting 2011 Car Sales Statistics 2011 - RattleandSmoke

No you can claim a proportion of costs. There is two different ways of doing it. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 24 Feb 12 12:59   Some Interesting 2011 Car Sales Statistics 2011 - Focusless

VW doing ok - annual profits double: www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17152843 Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 24 Feb 12 16:14   Some Interesting 2011 Car Sales Statistics 2011 - Dutchie

Problaby selling cars to China big market for VW. Reply to this message | Report message