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Thread Author: Duncan Replies: 15

 Back Up Fails Again - Duncan
I tried to do a backup last night and it failed.

The message I got was:-
Windows Backup skipped backing up system image because one of the critical volumes is not having enough free space. Free up some space by deleting unnecessary files and try again.

Error code 0x81000033

I am attempting to back up to a 698 GB external hard drive which has 523GB of free space.

Any ideas please.

Posters with good memories will recall that I am not very computer savvy. Simply worded answers, if possible, please.

TIA
Last edited by: Duncan on Fri 6 Jan 12 at 05:59
 Back Up Fails Again - Crankcase
I don't have an answer. I do have a link to a discussion which would at least imply it's known, it's not simple, and it's probably not an easy fix for the non-techy.

I post it purely to prevent others going over points which seem obvious (what is it actually trying to copy, how big is the source, etc etc), but are perhaps addressed in the link, just to avoid time wasting for Duncan.

social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/ar/w7itprosecurity/thread/750fbdae-7dea-4267-a360-de597e38edc9

 Back Up Fails Again - Zero
The simple answer is not to use windows backup, its rubbish,.

backup.comodo.com/
 Back Up Fails Again - rtj70
Since most/all I backup are files, I prefer to rely on something as simple as ROBOCOPY to sync folders (and all sub-folders). Similarly I use rsync on the Mac. I rsync when I remember to my NAS.... and then rsync every now now and then the NAS to another of disks.

Although on the Mac I also have the inbuilt Time Machine running too.
 Back Up Fails Again - smokie
I'd suggest Allwaysync, genuinely free for personal use. for backing up files. This carries out a sync rather than a full backup which means you backup to the same locations each time and it adds/deletes/replaces only those files which have change since last time, so a lot quicker than a full backup. For an inexperience user it is great because once the job is set up you just run the program and it will repeat the same job - nothing to remember or get wrong.

www.allwaysync.com

However this wouldn't give you recovery of your system in the event of catastrophic failure. Not sure what I'd recommend for that. I use Ghost but that costs money - there are many products out there which will give you a disk image. But maybe that's not important, if you have recovery disks from your computer manufacturer.

Last edited by: smokie on Sat 7 Jan 12 at 09:13
 Back Up Fails Again - Duncan
>> However this wouldn't give you recovery of your system in the event of catastrophic failure.
>> Not sure what I'd recommend for that. I use Ghost but that costs money -
>> there are many products out there which will give you a disk image. But maybe
>> that's not important, if you have recovery disks from your computer manufacturer.
>>

I bought the installation discs when I bought my PC.
 Back Up Fails Again - smokie
OK, good - then I'd suggest you try Allwaysync.
 Back Up Fails Again - busbee
I've been using Allwaysync for several years after someone suggested it on here and find it very good.

However, as to being free for home use, take care. When I first got it, I tried it for several short periods. Each time I then closed the program. Really just playing about. It concluded I was a commercial user and locked me out. I don't know if that was just for a period.

However, by that time I was convinced I liked it, and bought it. No regrets.

It does take a little time to get used to its ways. Like when you tidy up your drive and then do a fresh sync and it lists files not (now) on you main drive.

You can get rid by hovering your mouse and clicking the X that appears against each file -- after checking that is the correct place to do it. Not obvious at first. At least not to me.

I use it for data. I also make a disk image of my hard disk in case of a crash.
Last edited by: busbee on Sun 8 Jan 12 at 18:42
 Back Up Fails Again - smokie
Not sure about this bit "like when you tidy up your drive and then do a fresh sync and it lists files not (now) on you main drive. You can get rid by hovering your mouse and clicking the X that appears against each file -- after checking that is the correct place to do it. Not obvious at first. At least not to me. "

If you ensure that you always do only a left to right backup (rather than two way sync), and your source is on the left etc, then it will delete files in your backup (on the right) as part of the synchronisation process. You can choose which way to back up by clicking on the arrow between the source and destination directory names at the top, and whether you propagate deletions.
 Back Up Fails Again - Duncan
Thank you for the replies.

However, as I said in the OP, I am not very computer savvy. These replies, do, with respect, require a degree of computer savvyness, which I fear, I do not possess.

Why won't Windows Backup work?
 Back Up Fails Again - Zero
Duncan, with respect you were offered the advice that the answer is not simple, and the simple alternative is to download and install another program. Even the links were provided. I am pretty sure that you can do that.
Last edited by: Zero on Mon 9 Jan 12 at 08:41
 Back Up Fails Again - Iffy
...I am attempting to back up to a 698 GB external hard drive...

Is this part of Duncan's problem?

Won't he have to tell whatever back-up program he uses to back-up from the external drive?

And is Duncan trying to back-up one external drive to another, or back-up an external drive to an internal one?

 Back Up Fails Again - John H
Duncan:

>> Fails Again >>
As you say "again", because you asked this question in September 2011.
www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?t=7975&v=f
What did you do then to get it to work, if anything?

>> Why won't Windows Backup work? >>

1. If it eventually worked for you last time, clearly you were doing something wrong at first and found what it was that you were doing wrong, and corrected it.

2. if it never worked, then obviously you are another user of Win7 for whom the inbuilt program fails. (for the computer savvy, see technical discussion in the link
social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/ar/w7itprosecurity/thread/750fbdae-7dea-4267-a360-de597e38edc9
provided by crankcase for an attempt to trace the fault in the Win7 software).

3. a solution which works for some people is to delete the hidden partition.
See first reply by Lexie164 in the above link:
"I had the same problem and nothing that I did fixed the problem. I followed all of Microsoft's fixes to no avail. Luckily I found a website that had the exact fix, links to the free software you will need and detailed insruction (including screen shots). I followed the insructions and now my backup works flawlessly. The link to the website is below. Good luck!
www.pagestart.com/win7br0x8100003301.html"


Last edited by: John H on Mon 9 Jan 12 at 09:01
 Back Up Fails Again - busbee
"Not sure about this bit "like when you tidy up your drive . . ."

"If you ensure that you always . . . "

Correct. I have been doing that now for a long time. It just needed a bit of sorting out to get to that procedure when I first got the program.
 Back Up Fails Again - Duncan
Thank you all for the replies. My apologies for the delay in responding.

Zero.
Yes, I did cope with Comodo, but it didn't do what I thought it was going to do. The maximum backup size is 3.5 GB (if I remember correctly) Thank you for providing the link.

Another John H.
Yes I have asked the question previously - to be honest I had forgotten. I didn't get anywhere on the earlier occasion.

It was the posts on Sunday evening that caused me some confusion!

Why don't Microsoft, with all their resources make a program that works?
Last edited by: Duncan on Thu 12 Jan 12 at 13:06
 Back Up Fails Again - Zero

>> Zero.
>> Yes, I did cope with Comodo, but it didn't do what I thought it was
>> going to do. The maximum backup size is 3.5 GB (if I remember correctly) Thank
>> you for providing the link.

It has a 5gb limit for free online storage, if you wish to use it. However it will back up or clone the entire hard disk to any other backup media you have - like another disk, with no limit.

It can be done manually, it can be done via a scheduler and it can be set to do incremental or full backups.
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