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Thread Author: Meldrew	Replies: 42

New Tue 1 Nov 11 08:19   Latest "Traveller" Nonsense - Meldrew

I apologise that the link is from the Daily Wail but it has been reported in some real newspapers as well. Summary. 1.Travelers have been on a car park in Wales for 7 years and haven't/can't be moved on 2. Council now has to build a £90,000 toilet block and appoint a traveler liaison officer at a cost of £30,000 a year. tinyurl.com/3mqw3gp Last edited by: VxFan on Tue 1 Nov 11 at 12:47 Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 08:56   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Dog

I don't apologise that this link is from The Sun www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3906033/Gypsy-fight-lawyers-get-6moff-us.html Last edited by: VxFan on Tue 1 Nov 11 at 12:48 Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 09:15   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Zero

>> I don't apologize that this link is from The Sun Well you should. That too is a trashily written piece Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 09:40   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Dog

You weren't an August baby by any chance were you?? Reply to this message | Report message       1

New Tue 1 Nov 11 09:55   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Zero

>> You weren't an August baby by any chance were you?? You think that's good honest unbiased and undramatised reporting? Something you are proud to endorse? Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 10:00   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Stuu

>>You think that's good honest unbiased and undramatised reporting<< No such thing, EVERBODY has their own agenda, lord knows where you dug up this idea that bias isnt an integral part of the British press. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 10:02   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Roger.

>> >>You think that's good honest unbiased and undramatised reporting<< >> >> No such thing, EVERBODY has their own agenda, lord knows where you dug up this >> idea that bias isnt an integral part of the British press. .........................just like the B.B.C. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 10:07   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Stuu

>>.........................just like the B.B.C.<< And 'The Independant' which is a moronic title for a paper that openly supports the Lib Dems. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 10:28   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Zero

>> .........................just like the B.B.C. Do you have a better example of an unbiased TV and News organisation? Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 11:16   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Stuu

Oh dear, somebody got sucked in then. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 10:08   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Zero

Its not the press I have a problem with, its the people who believe its gospel as written. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 10:16   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Stuu

Who says they do, apart from you? What they write may be factually true, but the context is always suspect which is a given and with the Mail/Sun, you know theres something they have left out to reinforce the story, in the same way a left-wing paper leaves out details that dont help support their stance. There will always be dumb people in the world chap, but they read rubbish from both sides of the spectrum. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 10:25   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Zero

>> Who says they do, apart from you? Well they wouldn't propagate, and post it as examples of what they think represents their view would they. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 10:10   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Dog

>>You think that's good honest unbiased and undramatised reporting? Something you are proud to endorse?<< TBH Z - I only 'run through' the tabloids just to see what they're trying to tell us today, My wife though, often comes into contact with the feral underclass in conjunction with her legal work, More wasted £millions that would be better spent on heating the homes of the more deserving poor. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 09:41   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Iffy

Usual concise prose from The Sun. Short sentences, easy to read, and no wasted words. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 10:26   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Duncan

Dear Moderators Is there any chance at all that someone could insert the second "L" in "traveller" Pretty please? Reply to this message | Report message       1

New Tue 1 Nov 11 10:27   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Pat

Not known for your tact and diplomacy then Duncan:) Pat Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 10:29   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Duncan

Sorry Pat. Was I being rude? Not my intention, but that sort of error does grate. Perhaps I am alone? I wonder? Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 10:34   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Zero

>> Sorry Pat. >> >> Was I being rude? Not my intention, but that sort of error does grate. >> >> Perhaps I am alone? I wonder? Does it make it incomprehensible in some way? Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 12:48   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Pat

No apology needed Duncan, it just made me chuckle:) Typical man, could have hit the report post button and asked discreetly that way and no-one would have known! Pat Last edited by: pda on Tue 1 Nov 11 at 12:48 Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 11:05   Latest "Traveller" Nonsense - Duncan

>> Not known for your tact and diplomacy then Duncan:) >> >> Pat >> Well, it seems to have had the desired effect - at least in part! Thank you VX Fan. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 10:28   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Armel Coussine

>> Pretty please? Quite Duncan. 'We are all Americans now.' Not. Reply to this message | Report message       1

New Tue 1 Nov 11 10:30   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - bathtub tom

>>Is there any chance at all that someone could insert the second "L" in "traveller" That's the reason I gave to SWMBO for refusing to see 'the time traveler's wife'. If they can't spell it right, what's the script like? ;>) Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 10:35   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Zero

>> >>Is there any chance at all that someone could insert the second "L" in "traveller" >> >> That's the reason I gave to SWMBO for refusing to see 'the time traveler's wife'. >> >> If they can't spell it right, what's the script like? >> >> ;>) You go to the pictures to read the script? That's the actors job surely? Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 10:40   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - CGNorwich

Odd reason not to watch a film Right decision though - terrible film Last edited by: VxFan on Fri 4 Nov 11 at 10:42 Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 10:43   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - VxFan

>> Dear Moderators >> >> Is there any chance at all that someone could insert the second "L" in "traveller" Do you want me to change the 'z' in apologize to an 's' as well? ;o) Reply to this message | Report message       1

New Tue 1 Nov 11 10:58   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Duncan

>> Do you want me to change the 'z' in apologize to an 's' as well? >> >> ;o) Yes, might as well, whilst you are at it ;-) Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 11:03   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - R.P.

All councils in Wales - apart from the democratic republic of Anglesey have a Traveller Liaison Officer - I have it on reasonable authority that it paid dividends during the recent Dale Farm thing where they liaised with the local Travellers and managed to gain some good intel. This is Mailofever. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 12:09   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Meldrew

When the pedants have finished duffing each other up with rolled up newspapers could I hear what people think about the events described, in whatever paper they read or quote! Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 12:18   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Zero

the trouble is the events are not clear because the mail has somehow managed to mix a 54 ton fly tipping story into the mix. The facts appear to be they have a legal right to stay there, as per a 2009 court order. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 12:29   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - -

If the council are stupid enough to pay out for a toilet block for people who decide to just squat on land then more fool them and even more fool the people who elected them, once the present non travellers have finished with it they'll smash it up...unless and surely they must have guessed this, once they have toilets etc it becomes a semi permanent site, it is already but amenities rubber stamp it, there'll be a dozen vans there soon. If they want to defecate and live in filth on their own doorstep let them, i really couldn't give a toss what squalor people who deliberately behave in anti social ways live in, it's their own choice, if they chuck it over the fence get a JCB in and shovel it back. If people decline to support the system by paying a proportionate amount towards it's upkeep if able, the system has no reason to support them. If we're trotting out the 'uman rites tosh again, stick a manky portaloo on the site, they are apparently good enough for blokes that work hard on contract or road building sites all day long and good enough for people paying to visit outdoor concerts etc. That's my opinon Melders..;) Last edited by: gordonbennet on Tue 1 Nov 11 at 12:30 Reply to this message | Report message       1

New Tue 1 Nov 11 13:06   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Meldrew

110% agreement GB! They could always squat in their toilet block, if you know what I mean! I buy toilet blocks @ 50p each in Tesco but I guess they aren't the same ones. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 13:07   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Bromptonaut

RP, So Swansea probably had a Traveller Liaison bod before (or in spite of) these characters rocking up by the, then lower division, footie club. I have a friend who did a similar job in an Inner London Borough - very hard work indeed. And the Sun story roughly amounts to legal firm takes on government contract to represent defendants and gets paid for it? Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 20:55   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Harleyman

This is Mailofever. >> Maybe so but the general content of the report is factually accurate. I drive down that way every week to deliver to a merchant, what you see in the picture is an improvement on what it was. These people just are just thumbing their noses at the council, which itself is so up its own backside with PC that they're scared to do anything about it. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 12:28   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - idle_chatterer

>> >> Do you want me to change the 'z' in apologize to an 's' as well? >> >> ;o) >> Yes please, that "grates" too. Thanks. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 12:48   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Manatee

>> >> Do you want me to change the 'z' in apologize to an 's' as >> well? >> >> >> >> ;o) >> Yes please, that "grates" too. >> >> Thanks. It might grate, but in fairness to Meldrew (I think it was he) it's not wrong. Too much idle chattering at school I expect ;-) Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 13:05   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - R.P.

Done it before I read the rest of the thread...sorry :-( Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 19:18   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Meldrew

Whatever browser is is that I am using seems to have a US Spell Checker. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 20:16   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Zero

try changing it. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 20:47   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Meldrew

Done - with some difficulty! The steps of the menu are not instinctive Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 22:31   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - legacylad

At £90k for a toilet block I would expect it to have aluminum fixtures and fittings. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 1 Nov 11 23:03   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Harleyman

>> At £90k for a toilet block I would expect it to have aluminum fixtures and >> fittings. >> .... but not for long! Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 2 Nov 11 00:22   Latest "Traveler" Nonsense - Manatee

Chambers is happy with apologize and apologise. No apology required. Reply to this message | Report message