I read with interest the other post from the guy whose father has now gone past the stage where it is a problem to him, tho I'm sure it's awful for those around him.
When someone is aware they have dementia, though, before they reach that 'happy' stage, it must be absolutely goddamn terrifying.
My father is in this stage.
It's really hard on all of us just now.
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My brother has Lewy Bodies Dementia and is on Exelon, I spoke to him yesterday on the phone, he'd put his clocks back already!
Exelon was helping him at first, but the thing about Dementia is that it gets worse, not better, over time :(
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My grandmother suffered from this terrible disease.
Our family have all agreed that should one of us get it, we are to be placed into care asap.
My parents looked after my grandmother, which was a huge mistake, when the time came that the level of care was higher than we could provide, it was the devils own job to get her a placement.
Better to place the sufferer into proper care straight away.
We, as a family, are sure the strain was a large cause of my mothers own death.
For anyone who hasn't seen the effects of this illness, imagine a new born baby - as it ages, it learns to do more for itself, from being totally helpless, to becoming mobile, learning how to use the toilet, and to fed one self.
Now reverse this.
There you have the effects of dementia.
My grandmother had to be fed, and taken to the toilet. often needing prompting to actually relieve herself.
Had she known, she would have hated to end her days like that.
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Same here my grandmother slipped into dementia relatively young - she was 76 when she died - It was a blessing in the end.
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My cousins grandmother has suffered from it for the past ten years. It started it that she was just a bit odd, but then her son quickly realised something wasn't right. And more less as soon as she was diagnosed she went into a home.
I think she is in her mid 80's now.
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My Mother was diagnosed about two years ago with Alzheimers.
She takes Aracet daily and is now on the highest dose they can give, not at the happy place yet and still quite resistant to any outside help. My wife and I registered a Lasting Power of Attorney earlier this year which certainly makes dealing with everyday living easier.
My Mother will not entertain a care home, we have carers in three times/day as mentioned above there are some days when she sees this as outside interference. There will come a time when she will have to go into care, it's getting the timing right.
Nasty disease.
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Even good deeds have consequences for the carer of a dementia victim.
1) Grandson goes to visit his gran. Carer comes in to make tea, gran refuses to go to the toilet and my wife gets extra washing when bedding her down
2) Neighbour comes in at 11.30 or say 4pm and makes a cup of tea and stays for 40 mins. Cup of tea and biscuit means she does not eat her meal.
3) Church delivers flowers after Harvest Thanksgiving. Gran phones and tells of the flower delivery and is confused - "I do not know the woman" BUT is the door now locked? Trip down to check lock, arrange flowers, trip back etc 1.5 hrs gone...........
We could write a book on all the trials, odd ones are funny but the majority are sad
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We first noticed the old-fella getting a bit forgetful, silly things like where he`d put his teeth (freezer usually!) or doing things twice, we thought it was just age and used to tease him about it at times which he used to find funny.
Then one day he went to make us a cup of tea when we went to see him, after 10mins the Hostess went to see if he needed a hand, and he told her he couldn`t remember how to do it! But he told us not to worry Claire had shown him again.
That was when we started to think about getting him some help, we started the ball-rolling but things take time.
The next time I went to see him (week later) the door was locked, and the curtains drawn, but I could hear the radio on. No amount of knocking or banging would get him to open the door, so I rang him from my mobile several times- no answer.
Rang my brother, who said his neighbour down the lane had a key, so I went and got it, let myself in, and found him, sitting there large as life! Asked him why he didnt answer the door, he said he wondered what that noise was!! when I asked him about answering the phone he said he hadn`t got one! - so I rang him from my pocket, to watch his reaction when it rang, He leapt out of his chair, rushed into the kitchen and started tidying it up. I asked him what he was doing, and he said “that damn alarms been going off all day, how clean does it want the k,itchen?”.
Later that same day, he “soiled” himself for the first time, and he got extremely upset, it literally ripped away any shreds of self-respect and pride he had, he took it really bad!
It was then I realised what was what, and within a fortnight and the doctors help we got him into a home that specialises in Dementia care.
I totally agree about getting the proper care as soon as possible, it`s hard work and very upsetting trying to care for a loved-one at home, whilst watching them deteriorate before your eyes. Also it can be very distressing for the sufferer (like in my dads case when he soiled) to have your own Daughter/son etc etc clean them up. Amazingly, pride is one of the last things they lose.
The Staff in these places are fantastic, and treat them with total respect. He has continued to get worse, but is at that stage where he is now “Quite Happy”.
Funny thing tho`, they say when an Animal loses a sense, others compensate. The ole-lad has worn glasses all his life, and is blind without them. Now he doesn`t need them! The Nurses say he can see perfectly well without them, and although he no-longer knows how to read, he can quite happily look a pictures in books!!
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Devonite, thankyou for that insight into a very personal part of your life, it's left me very sad so i can only imagine what effect it's had and having on you.
Forunately neither of my parents deteriorated mentally to a great extent and so both lived fairly independent lives until almost the end in their own home, but i'm grateful that this thread has arisen i know more of what to look for than i did before in other loved ones (probably won't realise if it happens to me), none of us getting any younger and simple forgetfulness and absent mindedness is part of getting older.
It would seem the normal effects of ageing can worsen quite suddenly when these horrible age related illnesses attack.
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...It would seem the normal effects of ageing can worsen quite suddenly...
That happened to my rich cousin.
He went from normal elderly gent to talking gibberish in a few months.
Small consolation, but the money means his wife can afford to put him in a private home.
A friend's mother became a danger to herself and others.
She went into a home after she acquired the habit of turning on the gas ring, leaving it on, but not lighting it.
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>> She went into a home after she acquired the habit of turning on the gas
>> ring, leaving it on, but not lighting it.
That is a problem and electric rings are nasty things too for other reasons..
We've used Induction hob and suitable pans for around the past 8 to 10 years now, induction hob will not work unless there is a pan on the hob to complete the circuit, so it would be of great benefit to those getting a bit forgetful.
Secondly the hob itself does not heat at all, only the base of the pan heats and any heat in the hob is only that transferred from the pan, far less chance of accidental burns, even if accidentally allowed to boil dry (yes we have now and again) there is almost no danger as the type of heat involved is almost impossible to cause fire.
Could be worth investigating, probably not a good thing to change to for those already getting a bit foggy, but could be worth considering for those still fully active in mind as well as body.
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A handy to thing to have when coming home drunk too, although after the food poisoning incident I don't cook at all when drunk now.
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It's a safe way of cooking for lots of people, where little children are likely to poke their fingers about too, and you will not find a cleaner cooking method either, any spills simply wipe off because the hob doesn't heat, you can heat the pan on your hand if you want so long as the magnet circuit completes.
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not advisable tho for pace maker recipients
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...although after the food poisoning incident I don't cook at all when drunk now...
Preventing cooking accidents while drunk is the only valid argument for a takeaway kebab.
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>> drunk is the only valid argument for a takeaway kebab.
Its also the only time its edible.
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>> the only time its edible.
You are speaking for yourselves. I have had a lot of excellent takeaway kebabs over the years. But perhaps they are only obtainable in London.
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...I have had a lot of excellent takeaway kebabs over the years...
I've had some good ones where the meat is cubed on skewers and cooked to order.
But that's too complex an order and too long a wait for the inebriated.
Best to get the pre-sliced stuff which has been sitting in the server for a while.
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>> >> the only time its edible.
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>> You are speaking for yourselves. I have had a lot of excellent takeaway kebabs over
>> the years. But perhaps they are only obtainable in London.
No I am speaking as a Londoner, like you, and like you I have stuffed some real filth down my throat after a night on the lash.
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>> like you I have stuffed some real filth down my throat after a night on the lash.
Heh heh... Granted, but in my case not for quite a long time. It's decades since I braved a döner kebab, although I will still eat sikh kebabs in a roti from the Bengali place at the top of Ladbroke Grove, very nice fuel (cheap too) and hasn't poisoned me yet. Iffy's right, you normally have to have a shish kebab cooked before your eyes.
My minicabbing colleagues in the seventies were very insular about them. Some wouldn't touch cubes of lamb grilled before their eyes, seasoned and presented to them in a pita. They said their mums had told them you don't know what the foreigners put in it.
Nevertheless there were usually enough orders to despatch someone several miles across South London to get some nice shish kebabs come 2 a.m. The old bill used to use the same place over in Camberwell. We used to race them through Brixton on the way to and from it, but they cheated by using blues and twos.
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>> after the food poisoning incident I don't cook at all when drunk now.
That would be a good opening line for your first novel.
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Thanks for that devonite.
What I have really noticed with my mother is her loss of sensation. She doesn't feel the cold, doesn't get hot and you have to be careful with hot drinks.
We had to buy a kettle which does not fully boil the water as I noticed she would pick up a hot cup of tea and drink it like you or I would drink a cold drink on a hot day. The gas cooker was also replaced by one which has a shut off valve incase a tap is switched on but not lit.
The thermostat control in the house has been hidden away so she cannot play with it either, it's set to a constant temp. all year round. Basically back to child proofing the house.
The local authority have been great with my Mum and will continue to support her and us combined with fantastic neighbours who look out for her.
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>> My father is in this stage.
I am *so* sorry to hear that. It must be very hard for you all.
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A very sad ilness for all concerned. My partners grandfather developed dementia just as we became aquainted.
He was an aerospace engineer, a very inteligent and proud man. It started off with little things which his wife picked up on but we all laughed off, but over 12 months it became clear that there really was a problem.
His wife insisted in keeping him at home as long as possible - she was of the mentality that you marry someone come what may.
He had suffered from high cholesterol for a few years and she had him on a strict diet - I think that her care of him probably accounted for him lasting for another 7 years, however he did become violent towards her come the end.
It was very sad to witness not just his demise, but also the impact it had on those around him, although on a happier note his wife has now just met a nice man in a similar situation to herself and at 80 and 83 respectivly they are now "an item" :-)
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It is a cruel disease, and the examples above are incredibly moving.
My late grandmother developed dementia a couple of years after my wife and I met. As with the posts above, it was odd little memory related things to begin with, which steadily worsened to the point where she put the laundry in the oven and the crockery in the washing machine. Just six short months before this point, she had been a fit, healthy, independent woman. The speed with which it progressed was terrible.
When my wife and I visited her a couple of weeks or so prior to her passing, she looked at me as a complete stranger, yet not only instantly recognised my wife, but remembered her name, and the minor operation that my wife was due to have last time they'd met, and asked how it had gone etc etc. It really was incredible.
She was also able to recount in incredible detail about a shopping trip she'd made that morning, where she'd been, who she'd bumped into and talked with. It was so lucid and detailed, it could have been fact, but sadly she'd been hospitalised for some time by that point.
The absolute worst thing though was the way my late grandfather's death (several years before) was as upsetting for her every time she was reminded of it, as it had been when it happened. We stopped telling her in the end.
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>> When my wife and I visited her a couple of weeks or so prior to
>> her passing, she looked at me as a complete stranger, yet not only instantly recognised
>> my wife, but remembered her name, and the minor operation that my wife was due
>> to have last time they'd met, and asked how it had gone etc etc. It
>> really was incredible.
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>> She was also able to recount in incredible detail about a shopping trip she'd made
>> that morning, where she'd been, who she'd bumped into and talked with. It was so
>> lucid and detailed, it could have been fact, but sadly she'd been hospitalised for some
>> time by that point.
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This is where we are at with my Mum.
She recognises me at the moment but in conversation with other people e.g. her Sister, sometimes confuses me with her late Uncle who died some 35 years ago. My wife and children she can rhyme off with no problem at all but she confuses me with my eldest Son from a previous relationship who is now roughly the same age I was when my Father died.
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I just take my hat off to all of you guys dealing with this terrible problem.
My mother, stepfather and FiL all died without a trace of dementia but it was so different with MiL. She started with more serious senile dementia in her late eighties and we did our best to care for her at home. By good fortune, she lived next door, across the drive, but as grandchildren arrived, who needed baby-sitting during the day, the whole situation became very difficult, particularly for SWM.
Gran would hardly eat, having no sense of taste. Her main meal was often a round of cheese on toast, half eaten and carried in to her with a baby under the other arm. I blanked off the gas cooker and kept the kettle socket switched off. She thought she could do everything but there was no way at all. We had carers in to get her up and put her to bed. She had an alarm pendant and we were often in the house at 3am to find she'd set it off in her sleep.
She became incontinent....SWM doesn't do ' grown up poo ' so the cleaning was down to me, although I drew the line at cleaning Gran up herself. She had the splats in the downstairs loo one morning and was desperately upset and embarrassed about it. SWM managed to get her into the shower and I donned rubber gloves, got the mop and bucket out and lit a cigar. You just have to buckle down to it.
It was a big relief to both of us when she fell out of bed and broke her hip. Sounds a bit callous but that was the catalyst for all her future care.
Hospital, re-hab care home where she made no effort to ' re-hab ' and then into a private care home where she died of old age at 94, 30 months ago.
We did our best and so did our kids, my paramedic daughter was a tower of strength, knowing the system.
Sadly, death is the only way out of this situation, she had no real quality of life, all her memories were gone...she was really just the ' packaging ' that Gran had lived in until then.
Good luck to all of you...I wish you well.
Ted
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Thanks Ted.
I realise we are on the downhill slope to the end and I see it in my Mum everytime I see her that a bit more is gone.
As you say, the individual is adamant they can look after themselves but it is so obvious to everyone that is not the case. Sometimes wonder if I am too detatched as this is my mother after all. I quickly realised this was a one way trip after doing some reading.
My Mum has gone and we have this slow release through the shell which remains.
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I wonder what they do know when all appears to be lost.
An acquaintance's wife had severe dementia and was in a nursing home. Husband would visit twice daily without fail, until he succumbed to cancer. He appeared to be in remission and after a spell when he couldn't visit he resumed. He suddenly died. His wife also died within 24 hours.
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Sinking into dementia is a horrible end to an otherwise good life. It's hard to tell how much the person is aware of what's happening to them but what's easier to gauge is the toll it has on the family. My grandfather had it. His memory got progressively worse as he went through his 70s and by the time he reached 80 it was really bad. There were other health problems that cropped up too. He stayed at home until, after a series of strokes, it became obvious that he needed to be somewhere where there was medical attention available 24 hours a day. He seemed happy enough in the nursing home, but it wore down the rest of us, especially my grandmother. The last time I saw him was in 2005, about ten days before he passed away. He seemed overjoyed to see me but to this day I don't know if he recognised who I was.
When my time comes, I think I would rather die than go through that....
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>> I realise we are on the downhill slope to the end and I see it
>> in my Mum everytime I see her that a bit more is gone.
>> My Mum has gone and we have this slow release through the shell which remains.
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I personally feel that my grandmother died twice.
She died when the illness took her away, then her physical body was take some years later.
I found I couldn't mourn for her at her physical passing, I had already done that.
A most peculiar feeling, but that was how I felt.
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>>I found I couldn't mourn for her at her physical passing, I had already done that.
>>A most peculiar feeling, but that was how I felt.
Which is exactly how I felt when my grandfather passed away....
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I have been supporting my wife for the last five and a half years since it first started. The support has been fairly successful, given the circumstances, in as much as she is doing much better now than most after that time length.
At first she got very angry, throwing things about, waking me up at 5.30am, once with water, and worse, and almost impossible to manage on a few occasions without some sedation for a few days until stable again. A very rough time for a year or so.
She was never good at eating a variety of foods, try as I would. So I decided I would feed her food supplements. I gave them to her to take and she went through the motions but later I discovered them in the flower bed outside the bedroom window and elsewhere. A sort of cat and mouse game. Eventually, after she deteriorated somewhat, I was more successful. She has now been taking them regularly for a long time and also eats a variety of foods she previously would reject on sight.
So what am I feeding her and how successful is it. First there is quite some background of people benefiting from taking cod liver oil with omega 3 and also a vitamin B complex concoction as a multi-vitamin ---- at one time I took her for injections of the latter each 3 months and I saw her memory deteriorate during the last month. I also give Ginkgo biloba and Ginseng, calcium and vitamin D, oil of primrose. Peas, tomatoes, fruit, and also a couple of eggs twice a week -- just in case there is anything in them that could help.
How successful? Well, here we are, 5.5 years down the road, when most would be in a home, and we go out dancing, for pub meals and also socialising --- although she is likely to say hello to you more than once in the evening!
She looks fit for 81! As do I -- I now take the stuff.
I guess I probably won't win in the end but, as of now, I am getting a much better life than predicted.
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Do you know, this thread has reminded me just what a band of decent sticks lurk here, lets be honest most of us have our eccentric ways, and we can be as bloodyminded as it's possible to be when we get a strop on, that goes for all of us i think.
There shines through decent honest human love and warmth, i'm privelidged to be a member here, and thanks for reminding me that despite the cold hearted outside world there's still a solid line of decent dependable folk, a good representation of which are here.
Well done you lot.
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If I had the option of dementia in my eighties or older or dying younger but healthy before I went.... I'd chose the latter. Don't want dementia.
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This is why i said in a previous thread that when the day came that i had to have some-one else clean me, that would be the day i "do for myself nicely!"
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>> >>I found I couldn't mourn for her at her physical passing, I had already done
>> that.
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Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
I feel much better for knowing I'm not the only one to feel that way.
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>> I feel much better for knowing I'm not the only one to feel that way.
Mrs B says the same thing about her mother. Still alive and in a care home but no longer the person she was.
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Dermentia horrible illness for the person and the family.We all have to bare our cross unfortenately.Enjoy live whilst you can we are here a short time.
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>> Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
>> I feel much better for knowing I'm not the only one to feel that way.
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Just caught up with this thread, been catching up on paperwork for my Mum and travelling all day. swiss tony and Franfran it's good to know I'm not the only one who thinks like that.
Broke my heart last year to see my Mum and that's when it really hit me. Now I'm going through the motions of keeping structure in place where I can.
What makes it more difficult is the fact I don't just live around the corner. I am extremely lucky that my Mum has such a great network of neighbours looking out for her in addition to the professional help she has.
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get in touch with the altzimers assiocation
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Ours will be the first of the internet generation to go senile. So the quality of our on-line actions, in forums, official returns, purchasing, etc will imperceptibly decline in time, until it dawns on our contacts that something has gone wrong.
It might be amusing and harmless if it's only on this forum - we can all start speculating whether so and so is "going" - but it will have serious implications as the users of on-line banking for example get old.
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Thats an interesting observation. We may speculate that it has already happened to many on here, specially at 4:00 am in manchester.
Seriously tho, thats right, internet senility will be a major problem.
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I'm not altogether convinced that speculating as to whether someone has incipient dementia could be seen as amusing and harmless. Having seen the effect on someone when they realise they have this dreadful disease I suspect not.
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One can genuinely sympathise, empathise, support and advise sufferers and their families, but there is always room for humour and light relief.
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Rats is under 30 so a pretty low risk candidate for alzheimers.
There is some form of dementia associated with alcohol...... (Korsakoff's?)
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Rimsky!
I should have become a doctor really (well, I am, in a way)
What puzzles me though (one of many things) is why some people get dementia, and others don't,
Even in the same family ... take my family, my elder brother is demented, but he's the only one out of 6 sibs,
He has always smoked (still does) and he has also drank (beer) to excess throughout his life,
The other thing I noticed (in his life) was the way he would avoid all fats in his diet,
Fats (the right kind) are essential to cell walls, and the brain.
The other thing that puzzles me (I said there were many) dogs (cats?) don't become demented (except Springers!)
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>> The other thing that puzzles me (I said there were many) dogs (cats?) don't become
>> demented (except Springers!)
they do. And for the same reasons, namely living beyond the design spec of the bodies.
A large proportion of dogs becoming incontinent is due to forgetting they are toilet trained. I know one spitz that just stands there barking aimlessly, it has no idea why.
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Ive heard of Mad Dogs and Englishmen!
Seriously tho` I`m sure you may be right about Diet being contributary, there will certanly be "Triggers", these could be excesses of Drink, Manufactured Tobacco,and many other things.
I have eaten almost exactly the same as my Dad, but haven`t got it yet! (there may still be time!).
Smoking is my "favorite" culprit, Dad was a heavy smoker, until the middle-stage, then he "forgot" he smoked virtually overnight, and never showed any withdrawal symptons! Those Toxins cant have been beneficial!
There may also be external contributary factors like heavy industry in the area, I dont know if there are actually any Dementia "hotspots" in the U.K but wouldn`t be suprised. In this area it appears that various forms of Cancer are prelevant, (this town must be way above the national average), but why? - what have we got 30miles up the coast? - Sellafield (not that im casting aspersions!)
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>>There may also be external contributary factors like heavy industry in the area<<
Or even a yet unseen unknown Virus, or Prion as in CJD,
Aluminium is often implicated in Alzheimer's dis-ease, which is why I don't 'do' flu jabs, as the adjuvant often contains aluminium.
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Thats me done-for then! i`ve just had my jab, and i`ve spent years driving around farms in landrovers! Doh!
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There may also be a chromosonal link. Down Syndrome increases risk of alzeimer's - as it does of childhood leukaemia. Oncologist told us many cancers are being linked to chrom. 14 or 21 - both of which can involved in the syndrome. Perhaps dementia is also linked?
Forgive any errors - laptop died and am on the Wii!
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>> One can genuinely sympathise, empathise, support and advise sufferers and their families, but there is
>> always room for humour and light relief.
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I was, and there is. My mother's case is sad, but also very funny sometimes. In her better moments she can laugh too.
Luckily she had no dealings with computers or the internet. But had it bean my father instead (he died 5 years ago) it would have been a different story. How would a well-meaning relative intervene with an on-line bank to intercept a potential disaster? At a real bank you can give them a tip and they keep an eye on an elderly person and check that they are fully aware of their actions.
There is I think often a prolonged period of erratic decline, long before medical diagnosis or powers of attorney or anything like that become appropriate, when amusing forgetfullness gradually slips into more serious impairment.
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Well I guess so but you need to be careful. Joking about someone's forgefulness when they suspect they have Alzheimers might not help.
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Found this that some may find interesting, theres a Self-test "Quiz" here:
The Cognitive Function Test, which can be found at www.foodforthebrain.org,
And a DM (sorry) article about it here: (interestingly it appears to back Bushbee`s vitamin theorys)
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1386912/15-minute-online-test-dementia-DIY-memory-quiz-detects-early-signs-Alzheimers-people-young-50.html#ixzz1cYPEuRvz
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That's interesting Devonite, here's the link, we're going to try it for the hell of it.
removed link.
edit, i fully expect there to be some sales patter at the end, there's usually money involved somewhere, hopefully i'm wrong.
Further edit...actually no, not sure bout this till someone more aware takes a look, they want to know who you are tec, this information could fall into the wrong hands.
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Had a go using slightly false details and a disposable mail address. Got fed up 30% in so gave up... sadly no feedback as to what that says about me. Did get a mail saying I'd taken the test.
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>> Did get a mail saying I'd taken the test.
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The bit that worried me was insurance companies at some future point using such information to weed out those they don't want.
Did wonder about setting up a false email address, then taking the test on a public computer, then checking the score which no doubt is emailed to you some time later.
I'd want some of our internet savvy people here to be happy to try this before i would.
Z, and others who know what you're doing, what's your thoughts on this test if you're around.
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Just scored above average for my age, but I'm not too sure whether it really means anything.
I wasted a lot of time on matching the little pictures as same/different trying to work out which columns related to which questions.
Also it wasn't clear in the sample result whether the figure of 54 as average meant just for that example, or whether it was arranged so that 54 was the universal average in all cases.
It was hard work keeping up the concentration - could I really be bothered going on, how many more of these little figures to match?
Never having eaten anything as horrible as french fries in a cup, it took me a long time to spot anything resembling the description "food".
PS. If I'd seriously suspected that I might get a low score, I'd never have tried it. But I'm happy for any evesdropping insurance company to know that I'm compos mentis.
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But I'm happy for any evesdropping insurance company to know that I'm compos mentis.
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but wasn't it the case a few years back that by just requesting an Aids test, or even attending a GU clinic, some insurance companies were refusing to take the risk?
Probably me, but there's far too much information known about each and every one of us for my liking, and i take all this data protection assurance guff with a huge pinch of salt.
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you get the result online after you finished the test, so need need for accurate details, use a dummy email address.
ie miserable.git@bin.com
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>> you get the result online after you finished the test, so need need for accurate
>> details, use a dummy email address.
I thought FL received an email after he'd supplied a dodgy one, or was this on the dodgy email FL.
Would they know your real email address (one you send from) automatically if their equipment is set up to read it?
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The email arrived to the webmail account I have for such things (so the home mail doesn't get full of spam).
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>> The email arrived to the webmail account I have for such things (so the home
>> mail doesn't get full of spam).
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Thanks FL, wish i'd known about such things years ago when an internet virgin (not much better now), i can collect around 100 spams a day, and that's just in the junk folder.
Short of requesting a new main home address i'm at a loss to know what to do about it apart from regularly dump the lot.
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Assuming its this one
cft.foodforthebrain.org/
at no time do you send them an email, you can enter complete tripe and just move on to the test
don't enter tripe on the test tho, you will end up in the brain dead category,
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>> cft.foodforthebrain.org/
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>> at no time do you send them an email,
Many thanks, that's what i hoped.
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>>don't enter tripe on the test tho, you will end up in the brain dead category,
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Then what excuse shall I give ?
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Oh dear, score 53, that's apparently above average for me age but i suspect only just..ooer missus.
Would have been transported back to school then if they'd written 'could try harder' on me score..;)
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52 but got bad RSI at the moment which probably slowed me down a bit, and I have always been useless at timed tests. It shows I am not senile, but just thick.
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SWM just got 57, i'm pleased for her as she's the most self critical person i've ever known.
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I scored 60 which has done me good after my visit to the Doc today!
Pat
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Well done Bagpuus, we can't have Zero being top of the class, we'll never hear the end of it:)
Pat
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>> Well done Bagpuus, we can't have Zero being top of the class, we'll never hear
>> the end of it:)
I cheated, whats his excuse?
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>>52 but got bad RSI at the moment which probably slowed me down<<
I wonder whats caused that!! ;-)
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10 Ways to avoid Alzheimers (allegedly)
www.foodforthebrain.org/content.asp?id_Content=1821
Last edited by: Duncan on Wed 2 Nov 11 at 16:50
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I'm doomed
Have had 6 cups of coffee today and now half way through a large glass of red wine . Best eat a walnut.
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I've had 8 coffee's, just got a glass of red wine and smoked *cough* fags today so I'm past being doomed!
Pat
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I was reading on another site that coconut oil and coconut products are good for the brain. There was this women with a husband with alzheimers. She started feeding regular lots of coconut oil and some of this brain function actually started to improve. Found it somewhere from here:
www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Brain_fog_-_poor_memory,_difficulty_thinking_clearly_etc
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I have a large jar of coconut oil that i use for cooking, a dolop stirred into rice is good.
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Coconut oil is extremely high in saturated fat. I suppose the heart attack gets you before the Alzheimers strikes.
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>>I was reading on another site that coconut oil and coconut products are good for the brain<<
I aves it on me holy ghost (yum!) ave done for years, s'good for the Lauric acid which although it raises the total cholesterol, it's the HDL (good!) cholesterol, innit.
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>>A large proportion of dogs becoming incontinent is due to forgetting they are toilet trained. I know one spitz that just stands there barking aimlessly, it has no idea why<<
I've been thinking about that one, and it could be due to the fact that many peops feed their dogs the junk that they eat themselves i.e. con-venience/processed non-food + tap water con-taining Chlorine (and sometimes Fluoride) plus the Aluminium they use in the clearing/refining process.
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>> I've been thinking about that one, and it could be due to the fact
>> that many peops feed their dogs the junk that they eat themselves i.e. con-venience/processed non-food
Spot on D, how on earth anyone can think that's natural for a dog is beyond me, people are astonished that we feed ours raw food, uncooked bones etc.
They don't even get the point when SWM asks them when they last saw a wolf or wild dog pack carefully roasting a Wilderbeast on the barby, or nipping down the pet shop for some dried pap.
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I'm so grateful to everyone who has contributed to this. It's not exactly ' a problem shared' thing, but it's close.
I do know what is to come, for me and my mum - my siblings are next to useless when it comes to anything they don't want to deal with.
My dad is at the stage where, if you hold a conversation, he is still amazingly clever and witty.
But, he would go out to lunch 5 times a day or more if my mum didn't remind him he'd already eaten.
Same with medication - he's on aricept too btw - but he'd either heavily overdose, or not take them at all.
There is no way my mum would even think about a home yet - and neither would i. He brought me up and looked after me a long time, now it's my turn.
And if he went into a home, i know, even now, he would keep returning to the house he's lived in for thirty+ years.
I'm so very grateful for everyone's opinions here - it is a subject which i have felt absolutely alone about, parents in denial, siblings not giving a monkeys - I dont mean that i am glad that others know this disease all too well, but it is a sort of comfort to know im not alone.
Thank you - from my heart. HF xx
Last edited by: VxFan on Wed 2 Nov 11 at 21:25
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you. will need help eventualy. the sooner dad gets used to some body else and builds a relationship might be helpful.
make him a memory book . music is good.
glen cambell seems to doing well
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I didn't know he had it. It's hard with my dad at the mo, neither he or mum will accept any interference whatsoever.
I'm maybe jumping the gun.
But things said on the threads over the last few days have really made me think.
Again i thank this place for being a place of advice xxx
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Dogs have been eating man's left-overs for thousands of years. Basically a scavenger so their digestive system can cope with just about anything.
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Yup, designed to eat dead rat in ditchwater.
Their teeth is the only thing you have to worry about, and for that they need bones to gnaw on.
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>>Spot on D, how on earth anyone can think that's natural for a dog is beyond me, people are astonished that we feed ours raw food, uncooked bones etc.<<
But to be fair gord, people do it out of kindness, like I used to before I 'cottoned on',
When we got Milo 11 years ago, he was a bit runty like I've said before, and the 'old school' vet I found (in Newquay) put him on raw mince and stale wholemeal bread!
It did Milo the world of good and he is still with us (and healthy) today.
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Unsurprisingly dogs are very resistant to botulism (found in rotten meat).
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My vet told me dogs are designed to be constipated, they've evolved to eat carrion.
Mine used to love the arrival of the butcher, who'd always throw them a raw bone. Never saw them for a couple of hours after. Useful burglar deterrent as well, a large, well gnawed bone in the garden.
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Useful burglar deterrent as well, a large, well gnawed bone in the garden.
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Ours buries hers and it's so funny to watch her keeping a beady eye out to make sure no one sees where she puts it.
As we speak there is a pigs trotter buried somewhere, it'll crawl out on it's own one of these days and our daft hound will spend a happy half hour chewing the stinking thing with a smile from ear to ear, i love dogs and their barmy ways.
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>> One can genuinely sympathise, empathise, support and advise sufferers and their families, but there is
>> always room for humour and light relief.
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Absolutely, life goes on as they say.
My two favourite T-Shirts currently:
dailymash.shotdeadinthehead.com/product_view.aspx?pid=940
&
dailymash.shotdeadinthehead.com/product_view.aspx?pid=3104
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Dementia - Dog
