More to go wrong!
what is wrong with the protectors that just sit over the lip?
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Looks a bit flimsy to me...wonder how it would survive a suitcase catching it on the way out !
Ted
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More to the point, what's wrong with being extra careful when you're in a tight spot, and respecting other peoples' property?
Neat idea, but I agree with Tony that it's one more thing to stick/break/jam/fall off (delete as appropriate) and TBH it don't look all that robust.
Of course, now that people have protection on THEIR doors, instead of scratches there'll be dirty great dents where they whack my door!
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>> More to go wrong!
>> what is wrong with the protectors that just sit over the lip?
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In a the UK world of bling those permanent door protectors look about as fetching as chrome wheelarch protectors.
It appears Ford are damned if they do and damed if they don't.
Agree they need to be sturdier if the plastic Volvo use on their fuel flap hinge is anything to go by.
I'm not sure anything will catch that mechanism if it is allowed to deploy before egress is made unless you are a taxi fare dodger in which case it might just catch you on the way out.
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It looks to me like it's only protecting the door edge of the vehicle to which it's fitted.
Sod the other car?
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nice to know ford have you in mind when some douchebag caves your door in
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Depends what it is made of - hard plastic or soft rubber.
If I open my door against another car, it will the the other car that suffers most. I might get a tiny chip on the edge but realistically that would only happen against a brick wall or something.
I think this looks a good idea and if made of rubber or soft compound, would help prevent damage to the other vehicle.
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2 weeks of salt on the roads and your door paintwork is ground away...
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>> It looks to me like it's only protecting the door edge of the vehicle to
>> which it's fitted.
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>> Sod the other car?
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Yes, it only protects the ignorant.
Now if it was a soft inflatable airbag type thingy then it would be a good idea.
Even better would be a powered door with a proximity sensor on the door edge that bounces the door back at the ignorants if the door gets too close to the other car and a verbal reprimand.
Last edited by: Kithmo on Fri 30 Sep 11 at 11:37
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>> Even better would be a powered door with a proximity sensor on the door edge
>> that bounces the door back at the ignorants if the door gets too close to
>> the other car and a verbal reprimand.
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Now that is a brilliant idea but i'd like the violently defensive type instead, could have a version fitted under your own side bump strips, if they get hit by an errant door they spring out a couple of inches with terrific force...clouting the other ignorant slob in the eye with their own door.
I want that so badly, i wonder if Jankel offer a non lethal version yet.
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...Yes, it only protects the ignorant...
Hardly, it's easily done to touch your door against another car by accident, absent-mindedness, or stupidity.
I've done it a few times, although most often against my garage wall.
I can be ignorant when I choose to be, but I do respect my own and others' property.
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How is it that everything any maker does gets poo pooed on here?
Its a brilliant idea. Get real you lot.
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>> Its a brilliant idea. Get real you lot.
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I agree, I hate Lancer paint on my door edges. :-)
Last edited by: Old Navy on Fri 30 Sep 11 at 13:06
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You mean brilliant like cupholders? Broken in the first six months as wee Jimmy breaks it when he gets out of the car and catches it with his satchel etc and pulls hard..
Last edited by: madf on Fri 30 Sep 11 at 13:08
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Would be easy enough to design the outer part with self-releasing clips so that it simply came off if snagged on a bag strap or a shoelace. Then you'd just pick it up and push it back into place.
I'm with those who think it's a clever idea.
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They should put sensors on doors that prevent it opening in normal use (a safety override for accidents obviously!) unless there is room for it fully open without contact. That way folk would have to consciously consider just where they are dumping their tin-cans!
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The world would be full of half-empty car parks, or people trapped in their cars in full ones. It's not possible to park in a regular space alongside another car and to open the door to its full extent without contact.
Last edited by: WillDeBeest on Fri 30 Sep 11 at 15:35
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>>It's not possible to park in a regular space alongside another car and to open the door to its full extent without contact.
Exactly! - so something has got to evolve!
At the moment Carpark operators cram in as many spaces as it is possible to make as much profit as possible, so, you park at your own risk, it doesn`t matter to them how often your car gets banged or dented through carelessness. Its making them a fortune!
Now if doors had sensors like suggested, carpark operators would have to rethink their plan, like you say, a half-empty park is no good, neither is one full of trapped folk! so spaces are going to have to alter to suit the vehicles, and a park that previously held 300 sardine-packed, dented cars, would now evolve to hold 200 ding-proof cars, it would change the ethos on who is actually being hurt, you, your car and your pocket, or the operators losing revenue on a few spaces?
Which type of park would you prefer to use, with your nice new car?
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>> Then you'd just pick it up and push it back into place.
Or not notice it's fallen off and either not bother replacing it when you do notice it or pay Ford a fortune for a replacement, and 4 hours labour to fit it.
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...and 4 hours labour to fit it.
No more labour than a light bulb or a wiper blade if the clips are designed right.
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>> No more labour than a light bulb.....
Several cars nowadays have to have the bumper removed for this chore, or you have to be a contortionist or double jointed to be able to change a bulb yourself.
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Several cars nowadays have to have the bumper removed for this chore...
And most do not. Stop being deliberately obtuse.
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>> Several cars nowadays have to have the bumper removed for this chore...
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>> And most do not. Stop being deliberately obtuse.
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That is very true.
Its normally air filters, and or washer bottles/ expansion bottles for head lamps, and road wheels, followed by splash shields for foglamps.
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>> Its normally air filters, and or washer bottles/ expansion bottles for head lamps, and road
>> wheels, followed by splash shields for foglamps.
yeah well, most of us have moved on from big chrome quartz iodine wobbly owl spotters.
How long is it now before your cave becomes free and you can take up your calling as a hermit? ;)
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> >> Its normally air filters, and or washer bottles/ expansion bottles for head lamps, and
>> road wheels, followed by splash shields for foglamps.
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>> yeah well, most of us have moved on from big chrome quartz iodine wobbly owl
>> spotters.
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>> How long is it now before your cave becomes free and you can take up
>> your calling as a hermit? ;)
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We in the trade love it!
Gives an excuse to get the car in the workshop and give a free 'vehicle health check' and see what else is wrong the the car.......
Last edited by: swiss tony on Sat 1 Oct 11 at 10:59
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The brilliant idea on my Ford was one screw and two clips to remove the headlamp, without disturbing the alignment. The Ceed has a similar setup. :-)
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...The brilliant idea on my Ford was one screw and two clips to remove the headlamp, without disturbing the alignment...
Same on the CC3, and the slot in the screw is wide enough for a coin, so a roadside bulb change is easy.
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>> Stop being deliberately obtuse.
?????????
I didn't think I was.
I thought the point of a forum was to have a debate and have an opinion. Obviously I was wrong.
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>> I didn't think I was.
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>> I thought the point of a forum was to have a debate and have an
>> opinion. Obviously I was wrong.
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Clearly, now you know your place don't do it again.
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>> You mean brilliant like cupholders? Broken in the first six months
No idea what you stuff in your cupholders, but I have not broken one ever since i had a car that was so equipped.
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>> You mean brilliant like cupholders? Broken in the first six months
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Madf, that was the CD drawer and not a cup holder, you twonk ;-)
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Good quality cup holders fold away, like mine does in the Mondeo;)
Pat
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>> Good quality cup holders fold away, like mine does in the Mondeo;)
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>> Pat
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Mine on the Astra is built into the glove box lid. I have already place a cup of tea in it, gone onto autopilot shut the lid... :-(
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>> >> Good quality cup holders fold away, like mine does in the Mondeo;)
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>> >> Pat
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>> Mine on the Astra is built into the glove box lid. I have already place
>> a cup of tea in it, gone onto autopilot shut the lid... :-(
Madf will blame the Vauxhall electronics, or complain its a renault.
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Good quality unbreakable cupholders are just deep cup shaped recesses in the centre console, like in the lancer.
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>>Good quality unbreakable cupholders are just deep cup shaped recesses in the centre console, like in the lancer<<
+1
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>> >>Good quality unbreakable cupholders are just deep cup shaped recesses in the centre console, like
>> in the lancer<<
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>> +1
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If you can't balance a cup of steaming hot coffee between your legs while texting, lighting a cigarette and steering with your knees as a blonde hitch-hiker pleasures you at 60mph you have no business holding a licence.
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If that blonde hitch-hiker is Keith Lemon where do I send my licence ?
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>> as a blonde hitch-hiker pleasures you at 60mph
Dave... is that you? ;)
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>> If you can't balance a cup of steaming hot coffee between your legs while texting,
>> lighting a cigarette and steering with your knees as a blonde hitch-hiker pleasures you at
>> 60mph you have no business holding a licence.
No way would I do that.......hot coffee close to your danglys is lethal. Best just swigging from a bottle of Scotch to wash your moggys and mandys down !
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Ted
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>> No way would I do that.......hot coffee close to your danglys is lethal. Best just
>> swigging from a bottle of Scotch to wash your moggys and mandys down !
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>> Ted
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Come om now Ted, the poor girl needs to pause for a drink now and again.
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I do speak from experience with regard to a hot coffee/danglys interface moment.
I was recovering a family from Higher Broughton to Golders Green. They had a horrible, multi-coloured Renault 16 that I just couldn't get to start.
Baby on front passenger seat facing back, parents in the middle and 2 older kids in the dicky seats. We got down to Watford Gap, during the journey they never spoke to me but he lectured his wife in an unknown language...yiddish ?
We stopped for a comfort break and he bought me a coffee which I put on the box lid between the seats. The baby made a grab for it and chucked it all over me...it was hot !!
Nice family...not ! The kids left the back full of crumbs and bits of pastry and, cleaning the motor some days later, I found a used disposable nappy under the front seat.
I got them again some weeks later, same place.......this time I got the damn thing going.
Don't know how the got it back to my neck of the woods from the Smoke in the first place
Ted
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>> How is it that everything any maker does gets poo pooed on here?
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>> Its a brilliant idea. Get real you lot.
Yes it's a brilliant idea but even the video suggests that its purpose is to enable to rest your car door on somebody else's paint (as Harleyman and Kithmo among others have spotted).
What's needed is an idea that benefits the dingee, rather than the dinger.
Or better still one that punishes the dinger as well, as suggested by GB.
Come the day when it's standard to open your door until it hits the adjacent car, I'll be even less likely than I am now to park within range.
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>>Come the day when it's standard to open your door until it hits the adjacent car,
Well thats why "bumpers" were first put on cars, to help you fit in parking spaces by shunting the cars infront and behind you a little bit!
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Looking at the way that ignorant little twerp bounced his door off the other car Ford obviously still don't use much in the way of metal when they manufacture...
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>> ...Yes, it only protects the ignorant...
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>> Hardly, it's easily done to touch your door against another car by accident, absent-mindedness, or stupidity.
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I can honestly say, in 38 years of driving, I have never dinged my door against another vehicle, accidently or not. If the vehicle next to mine is close, I keep hold of the door as I carefully get out my car.
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...I can honestly say, in 38 years of driving, I have never dinged my door against another vehicle...
Fair enough, but too many dings happen for them all to be done by ignorant people.
Some will be, but others will be done by decent, upstanding members of society.
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>> Some will be, but others will be done by decent, upstanding members of society.
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In whose eyes would they be regarded as such, and for what reason.
Manners maketh the gentleman, not money, being brought up to respect other people, their property and most importantly their feelings, helps.
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...In whose eyes would they be regarded as such, and for what reason...
Oh dear gb, all I meant is that anyone can ding a door.
Same as mis-fueling, it's a stupid thing to do, but so many people do it, they can't all be stupid.
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To err is human, to forgive divine. Depending on the size of the ding.
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>> Same as mis-fueling, it's a stupid thing to do, but so many people do it,
>> they can't all be stupid.
Stupidity or a daft mistake is another subject, we've all done things we wish we could turn the clock back and undo, missfuelling doesn't damage any third party's property.
Dinging someones door though could well happen should the door get caught by the wind or you slip whilst getting in/out....that's the moment you find out if the dinger is a decent sort or not by their next actions.
I think we're really more concerned about the ignorant uncaring bods who simply bang their door edge into your car as a matter of course, oblivious or uncaring as to the damage they cause.
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Brilliant idea from Ford - swiss tony
