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Thread Author: Iffy Replies: 11
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New Fri 16 Sep 11 19:47 
 A lenient sentence? - Iffy
A man has been locked up for seven years for his second offence of causing death by dangerous driving.

The maximum is now 16 years, so seven for a second offence looks a bit light to me.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-14948194
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New Fri 16 Sep 11 20:00 
 A lenient sentence? - Ian (Cape Town)
"Judge Brian Forster said Eden had "learned little" from his 2002 conviction and described his driving as "horrific"...."

I have no words to describe idiots like this. (the convict, not the judge)

One would have thought that one conviction of this nature would have banned the scum from the roads for life.


Oh, and re-reading, I see he was a 'learner' driver?

Obviously hasn't learned much, has he?

Or is his case an example of the culture of 'he has paid his dues, and must be given a second chance'?






Last edited by: Ian (Cape Town) on Fri 16 Sep 11 at 20:02
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New Fri 16 Sep 11 20:05 
 A lenient sentence? - Falkirk Bairn
>>One would have thought that one conviction of this nature would have banned the scum >>from the roads for life.

I someone drives without a licence, no Insurance etc would banning for 10 yrs or life make any difference - they would probably drive anyway - banned or not............
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New Fri 16 Sep 11 20:13 
 A lenient sentence? - Ian (Cape Town)
FB, where does one draw the line?
He is allegedly rehabilitated. Had he been banned for life, after the previous offence, he would not have had the opportunity to be a 'learner'.

Maybe this is a solution? One offence of this nature, no driving ever again. Next offence - life inside, consider it murder inasmuch as the offender willfully and knowingly went out knowing his actions could cause a fatality.
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New Sat 17 Sep 11 08:01 
 A lenient sentence? - idle_chatterer
Without pretending to know the law in these respects, it seems to me that allowing the chance of rehabilitation and for offences to become 'spent' (for most purposes) is fair, however allowing offences to be 'spent' for the purpose of further similar offences seems wrong to me.

Or am I missing the point ?
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New Sat 17 Sep 11 19:29 
 A lenient sentence? - SteelSpark
I noticed that story yesterday.

I suppose that it depends upon the nature of the driving, in other words quite how dangerous it was. Multiple offences should make a difference, but so should the exact nature of the driving.

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New Sat 17 Sep 11 19:34 
 A lenient sentence? - SteelSpark
BTW, isn't the maximum 14 years, rather than 16, or has that changed recently?
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New Sat 17 Sep 11 19:39 
 A lenient sentence? - Old Navy
I believe the only way to stop a serial disqualified, or non licence holder driving, is to lock them up.

We don't have enough prisons for that.
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New Sat 17 Sep 11 19:44 
 A lenient sentence? - SteelSpark
>> I believe the only way to stop a serial disqualified, or non licence holder driving,
>> is to lock them up.
>>
>> We don't have enough prisons for that.

The harsher the sentences the less prisons you need.
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New Sat 17 Sep 11 19:49 
 A lenient sentence? - Zero
Well i know one thing, it pays not be too involved with him, thats his best mate and his girlfriend turned into tarmac robinsons.
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New Sat 17 Sep 11 19:51 
 A lenient sentence? - Old Navy
>> The harsher the sentences the less prisons you need.
>>

Yes, when the word got around that they were getting a standard 15 years with no reduction for anything on a second offence it might discourage them.
Last edited by: Old Navy on Sat 17 Sep 11 at 19:52
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New Sun 18 Sep 11 12:49 
 A lenient sentence? - captain chaos
He certainly looks broken to me.
Would you get into a motor car driven by a bloke looking like that?
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