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Thread Author: Bobby Replies: 13

 EV / PHEV Proposed fuel duties - Bobby
www.carwow.co.uk/news/10995/government-response-pay-per-mile-eved-consultation

So looking like 3p a mile for EVs and 1.5p a mile for PHEV.

So if you can pretty much do all your mileage on electric with a PHEV then it would appear that is the better choice from a running cost perspective!
 EV / PHEV Proposed fuel duties - Bobby
Still doesnt give the detail of how this mileage is all recorded. Be a headache for car hire companies who will need to retrospectively charge everyone with one of these cars for their miles used.
Who pays for the mileage between you trading in and the new owner buying it whilst its been used for test drives etc.
And of course there doesn't appear to be any exemptions if your mileage is outwith the UK.

But of course, still all cheaper overall than the equivalent ICE car assuming you have home charging facilities.
 EV / PHEV Proposed fuel duties - Manatee
>>outwith

Good and useful Scottish word there Bobby. I learned it decades ago while working for an Edinburgh-based company.

Much better than the English 'without' which is ambiguous sometimes.

There is a green hill far away
Without a city wall
Where the dear Lord was crucified
Who died to save us all

I could never figure this out when we sang it at school. Why would a green hill have a city wall anyway?
 EV / PHEV Proposed fuel duties - Dog
>>Why would a green hill have a city wall anyway?

Some versions say "outside a city wall".
 EV / PHEV Proposed fuel duties - Bromptonaut
>> >>outwith
>>
>> Good and useful Scottish word there Bobby. I learned it decades ago while working for
>> an Edinburgh-based company.

Mrs B and I picked that one up 40+ years ago touring Scotland.

It used to be a general rule in UK Youth Hostels that you used a cotton sheet sleeping bag and the hostel's blankets. Quilted sleeping bags were forbidden.

However in remote simple hostels in Scotland quilted down type bags were permitted outwith the season.
 EV / PHEV Proposed fuel duties - Bobby
Never realised it was a Scottish word!
 EV / PHEV Proposed fuel duties - Bromptonaut
>> Never realised it was a Scottish word!

Very much a Scots usage. Retirral to mean retirement and Depute as an alternative to Deputy are a couple of others.
 EV / PHEV Proposed fuel duties - Bobby
Never heard of them!
 EV / PHEV Proposed fuel duties - sooty123

>> However in remote simple hostels in Scotland quilted down type bags were permitted outwith the
>> season
.
>>

That would mean nothing to me, allowed or not, no idea.
 EV / PHEV Proposed fuel duties - sooty123
>> >>outwith
>>
>> Good and useful Scottish word there Bobby. I learned it decades ago while working for
>> an Edinburgh-based company.
>

I've read a few times, still find it confusing at first. I have to think what they mean, I suppose it's a bit like like writing with your opposite hand, for me anyway. With and out sound like opposites to me, so I have to think is that included or not.
 EV / PHEV Proposed fuel duties - John F
On analysis, 'without' and 'outwith' are both nonsensical portmanteau words. We should have adopted the French monosyballic 'sans' long ago and used 'outside' for the other word.
 EV / PHEV Proposed fuel duties - MGspannerman
Actually these are compound rather than portmanteau words. Yes, I know ….
 EV / PHEV Proposed fuel duties - John F
You do indeed - and I didn't! Excellent mansplaining;-)
 EV / PHEV Proposed fuel duties - Bobby
randomly reading a Legal disposition deed just now (Scottish obv) and it contains the famous word!

declaring always that my said disponee and his foresaids shall not be entitled to carry out any alterations to the present drainage systems so far as the same lie outwith the said subjects hereby disponed
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