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Thu 15 Jun 23 11:03   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - VxFan

Discussion continues 661912 Last edited by: VxFan on Thu 15 Jun 23 at 11:03 Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 9 Jun 23 17:18   Dorries has Jumped. - Bromptonaut

Nadine D has stood down immediately as MP for her seat in Bedfordshire. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65860564 Fit of pique over not getting into the Lords?? Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 9 Jun 23 17:38   Dorries has Jumped. - Duncan

>> Nadine D has stood down immediately as MP for her seat in Bedfordshire. >> Fit of pique over not getting into the Lords?? Could well be. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65861936 Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 9 Jun 23 17:59   Dorries has Jumped. - smokie

Most likely, but it crossed my mind that Boris's WhatsApps might embarrass her. Unlikely though. Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 9 Jun 23 18:04   Dorries has Jumped. - Zero

>> Fit of pique over not getting into the Lords?? Dear Lord, having seen BoJo the clowns honours list, I am utterly utterly disgusted,, Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 9 Jun 23 18:08   Dorries has Jumped. - tyrednemotional

....not on it then, Z....? Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 9 Jun 23 18:35   Dorries has Jumped. - Zero

>> ....not on it then, Z....? Pity, I can see me at the urinals in the Lords wen JRM walks in Turns to face him, "Oh Hello Jay-cob". Whoopps Sorry about your shoes..... Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 9 Jun 23 18:28   Dorries has Jumped. - Bromptonaut

>> Dear Lord, having seen BoJo the clowns honours list, I am utterly utterly disgusted,, Another example of the Johnson premiership giving an impetus to change that we were too complacent to see the need for? Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 9 Jun 23 18:31   Dorries has Jumped. - smokie

Surprised that Ben Houchen becomes a peer. From what I've read he should be the subject of a police investigation not appearing on an honours list!! Last edited by: smokie on Fri 9 Jun 23 at 18:32 Reply to this message | Report message       1

Fri 9 Jun 23 20:21   Dorries has Jumped. - tyrednemotional

...and now the big one .. Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 9 Jun 23 20:28   Dorries has Jumped. - Zero

There is a post on here some time ago where I explicitly stated Bojo would screw up the country, leave parliament and then sodd off to the states do earn big bucks on the pubic speaking tour. Reply to this message | Report message       1

Fri 9 Jun 23 20:34   Dorries has Jumped. - tyrednemotional

>> ..... on the pubic speaking tour. >> ...he usually speaks from somewhere further back... Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 10 Jun 23 17:39   Dorries has Jumped. - smokie

And another... "Nigel Adams, MP for Selby and Ainsty, has stood down but did not say why. " www.bbc.co.uk/news/65866187 I was going to say I hadn't heard of him but there are so many I haven't heard of since Boris's clear-out.... Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 14 Jun 23 16:41   Dorries has Jumped. - Zero

>> Nadine D has stood down immediately as MP for her seat in Bedfordshire. >> >> www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65860564 >> >> Fit of pique over not getting into the Lords?? Well apparently she hasn't yet resigned, and hasn't said when she will. Its a real case of throwing her toys out the pram, but leaving them attached on a long string. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 14 Jun 23 17:32   Dorries has Jumped. - Robin O'Reliant

Boris may be a wrong un, but look at the bright side. The Yanks have Trump. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 14 Jun 23 21:39   Dorries has Jumped. - Bobby

twitter.com/nadinedorries/status/1669060242552811520?s=46&t=3x9zm3grA2b_uGbxWYtpIA Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 14 Jun 23 22:00   Dorries has Jumped. - Lygonos

>>twitter.com/nadinedorries/status/1669060242552811520?s=46&t=3x9zm3grA2b_uGbxWYtpIA An utterly self-serving piece of crap? Who'da thunk it? Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 9 Aug 23 11:21   Dorries has Jumped. - sooty123

news.sky.com/story/nadine-dorries-told-to-stand-down-by-robert-jenrick-as-shes-accused-of-taking-voters-for-a-ride-12936511 She's still loitering around. Her local council have said she should go, now her own party are telling her to go. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 15 Jun 23 09:43   Boom! Headshot! - Lygonos

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-65876914 90 days. Good - hopefully enough to demolish him coming back and the start of de-normalising being an overt lying scumbag as a trait of leadership. Obviously covertly it will continue as it always has! Last edited by: Lygonos on Thu 15 Jun 23 at 09:44 Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 15 Jun 23 10:40   Boom! Headshot! - Zero

All it needed was an admission of a breech of the rules, say it was a lapse, and apology to the house, and he would still have been where he was. The blatant lies, bluster, contempt shown to others and a belief he should be allowed to get away with anything has ballooned into this. What a dick Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 15 Jun 23 21:50   Boom! Headshot! - Boxsterboy

As if the tories weren’t already going to get totally stiffed at the next election, these developments will make things so much worse for them! The conservative party as was has been totally transformed, reflected in rags like the torygraph Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 16 Jun 23 11:44   Boom! Headshot! - Duncan

>> www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-65876914 I really don't get the "apology" culture. Mind you, I don't get the "vigil" culture either. Then, I don't get so much of what goes on nowadays. Before the war, Rodney. Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 16 Jun 23 14:28   Boom! Headshot! - smokie

I see BoJo has nabbed a job as a columnist for the DM. Not cleared by ACOBA but apparently they are less interested in journo jobs. Wasn't he on £800k+ at the DT before he became PM? I wonder what the DM has paid him. EDIT: Oops I think it was Gideon on £800k as editor at the Standard, Boris was only on £275k at the DT. Last edited by: smokie on Fri 16 Jun 23 at 14:30 Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 17 Jun 23 22:52   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - R.P.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jun/17/david-warburton-conservative-mp-suspended-over-drugs-allegations-to-resign-seat And another. Reply to this message | Report message

Sun 16 Jul 23 14:26   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - sooty123

news.sky.com/story/defence-secretary-ben-wallace-to-stand-down-at-next-election-12921562 Ben Wallace to leave the cabinet at the next reshuffle and then not contest any seat at the next GE. I think he was the longest serving Conservative Defence Secretary. Reply to this message | Report message

Sun 16 Jul 23 14:43   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - smokie

His seat was disappearing too so I guess just felt he'd had enough. He had hopes of general sec of NATO or similar IIRC, which have been dashed. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 9 Aug 23 11:56   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - Zero

Nadine Dorris - She really is a nasty unprincipled self centred piece of work. Throws her toys out the pram because she had her honours taken away, refuses to full-fill her role both in parliament and locally. She needs to be tarred & feathered and dumped in the local pond like the witch she is. Last edited by: Zero on Wed 9 Aug 23 at 11:57 Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 9 Aug 23 16:06   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - Terry

You are just far too tolerant! Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 9 Aug 23 16:32   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - legacylad

Zeddo has become a snowflake., Reply to this message | Report message       1

Wed 9 Aug 23 17:14   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - Zero

Send her down to Manatees way, they know how to deal with witches down there. Reply to this message | Report message       1

Wed 9 Aug 23 17:21   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - Manatee

>> Send her down to Manatees way, they know how to deal with witches down there. Fancy you knowing that Zeddo! Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 9 Aug 23 19:19   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - Zero

>> >> Send her down to Manatees way, they know how to deal with witches down >> there. >> >> Fancy you knowing that Zeddo! The dog training group there is known as the coven Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 9 Aug 23 17:19   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - Manatee

>> She needs to be tarred & feathered and dumped in the local pond like the witch she is. The last doing-in by dunking of an alleged witch in England took place a short stroll from here in 1751. The ringleader was executed and hung in chains nearby. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Osborne_(alleged_witch) Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 9 Aug 23 18:58   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - zippy

>>The ringleader was executed and hung in chains nearby. Good. Witch-hunting - a excuse for murder. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 9 Aug 23 19:23   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - Zero

>> Good. >> >> Witch-hunting - a excuse for murder. Get a grip zipster, it was 280 odd years ago, not that it would have mattered to you, in the intervening years you'd have been in a penal colony in Tasmania, Port Arthur probably. Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 26 Aug 23 19:08   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - sooty123

Dorries has finally gone. www.itv.com/news/2023-08-26/nadine-dorries-resigns-as-tory-mp-with-scathing-attack-on-rishi-sunak No date for a by election so soon, however not sure if the area has voted for anyone other than Con regularly? I think she has a pretty big majority, mind so did other areas. This must be a pretty high number of by elections for any gov to have contested in such a short space of time. Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 26 Aug 23 20:21   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - Bromptonaut

In normal times her 20k+ majority would be unassailable. But we're not in normal times. Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 26 Aug 23 21:03   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - sooty123

I quick nosey on wiki says the last non Con MP to win there was in 1929. I think it's safe to call it a safe seat, however like you say it's not normal times. I think 2 of the other by elections overturned 20k majority though. Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 26 Aug 23 21:14   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - Bromptonaut

>> I quick nosey on wiki says the last non Con MP to win there was >> in 1929. I think it's safe to call it a safe seat, however like you >> say it's not normal times. I think 2 of the other by elections overturned 20k >> majority though. Losing a majority north of 10k at a GE is probably exceptional but picking a couple of 97 losers, both Michael Portillo and Tony Newton were 15k plus in 1992. Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 26 Aug 23 22:28   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - bathtub tom

She was unpopular before this hiatus. Lib/dems have been doing a lot of door knocking recently. I'll await the result with interest! Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 26 Aug 23 22:56   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - Lygonos

An odious turd. She would have been perfect as a Director of Nursing in most NHS trusts. Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 26 Aug 23 23:03   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - CGNorwich

She does write a good letter though. "Since you took office a year ago, the country is run by a zombie Parliament where nothing meaningful has happened. What exactly has been done or have you achieved? You hold the office of Prime Minister unelected, without a single vote, not even from your own MPs. You have no mandate from the people and the Government is adrift. You have squandered the goodwill of the nation, for what?" She's not wrong is she? Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 26 Aug 23 23:48   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - smokie

So what was she expecting to be done? I was always taught to present the positives alongside the negatives. Unless I was just being a moaning minnie. Reply to this message | Report message

Sun 27 Aug 23 06:50   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - sooty123

I'm not sure she's the best person to judge what's happening in Parliament, she's probably forgotten where it is. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 7 Sep 23 09:26   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - sooty123

news.sky.com/story/tory-mp-chris-pincher-resigns-after-suspension-from-commons-over-groping-allegations-12956582 And another by election. Must be a record number. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 7 Sep 23 09:33   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - Bromptonaut

>> And another by election. Must be a record number. Done a Boris and jumped before he was pushed. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 7 Sep 23 11:00   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - Terry

There have been 16 by elections between 2019 and 2023 - this may exclude a few more recent ones so assume (say) 20. By comparison there have been many periods with a greater number 1945-1950 50 1951-1955 44 1955-1958 49 1959-1964 61 Rather than listing all of them - since the war, there have been 21 separate administrations due to general elections. In only 12 of those were there less than 20 by elections. By comparison Rishi could be renamed "Lucki Rishi"! researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7529/CBP-7529.pdf#page=45 Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 6 Jan 24 11:34   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - Bromptonaut

>> There have been 16 by elections between 2019 and 2023 - this may exclude a >> few more recent ones so assume (say) 20. >> >> By comparison there have been many periods with a greater number >> >> 1945-1950 50 >> 1951-1955 44 >> 1955-1958 49 >> 1959-1964 61 I wonder how far those numbers after the war and up to 64 compared to now reflect the change of age/background among MPs. How many were caused by the death of the sitting member? Anecdotally (at least) a large proportion of Tories in those days were so called 'Knights of the Shires' while Labour's cohort were older men who had come up through the Trades Unions. Those in the current parliament have been largely people who have been suspended and recalled or have resigned before they were pushed. Chesham and Amersham was the death of Cheryl Gillan and Southend West of course the assassination of the sitting member. A couple of others resigned after taking other office - Batley and Spen for example. Last edited by: Bromptonaut on Sat 6 Jan 24 at 11:34 Reply to this message | Report message

Sun 7 Jan 24 10:43   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - sooty123

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67905092 Another one in the near future? Reply to this message | Report message

Sun 7 Jan 24 12:54   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - Bromptonaut

>> www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67905092 >> >> Another one in the near future? Another to watch but it looks more like a cockup than a conspiracy. I'll be surprised if there are not others in a similar position irrespective of party. Reply to this message | Report message

Sun 7 Jan 24 13:39   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - Kevin

Liam Byrne campaign for Mayor of West Midlands. Reply to this message | Report message

Sun 7 Jan 24 13:44   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - Bromptonaut

>> Liam Byrne campaign for Mayor of West Midlands. Can save me hours of Googling to understand that reference? Unless of course it's yet another reference to that 'no money left' message. Last edited by: Bromptonaut on Sun 7 Jan 24 at 13:44 Reply to this message | Report message

Sun 7 Jan 24 14:11   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - Kevin

Maybe it wasn't reported by The G but here's Wiki: "In May 2023, Byrne was found to have misused public expenses. Byrne denied wrongdoing, but the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (IPSA) found there was “overwhelming evidence” that a member of Byrne's staff had worked on his failed mayoral election campaign during office hours, conservatively estimating that at least around 1,000 hours of public-funded time had been spent on the campaign. MPs may not use taxpayer-funded allowances for political campaigns; Byrne was not asked to repay the funds because the total hours worked by the staff member could not be established with some evidence in the report suggesting the hours could be in the thousands. Byrne stated subsequently he accepted the findings but refused to apologise." Reply to this message | Report message

Sun 7 Jan 24 18:07   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - Bromptonaut

>> Maybe it wasn't reported by The G but here's Wiki: I'm sure it was but I cant remember the whyfores etc. Thanks for putting me on the right track. IPSA, which was set up in the aftermath of the expenses scandal, has probably now become part of the landscape but initially it was VERY unpopular with MP's. It's first CEO was the late Andrew Macdonald, probably the best and most professionally skilful Civil Servant I ever met. Reply to this message | Report message

Mon 8 Jan 24 08:08   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - Bobby

Talking of civil servants, I see Simon Case is returning to work. Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 5 Jan 24 19:08   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - CGNorwich

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67895246 Chris Skidmore quits over new oil and gas licences. Another by election soon. Poor old Rishi. It never rains but it pours (literally now). Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 5 Jan 24 20:33   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - sooty123

Looks like he's going to lose his majority by-election by by-election. Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 5 Jan 24 22:02   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - Duncan

I really don't know why you are so surprised. This is par for the course - a party in for 13 or 14 years, then another party in. It's the way you have done it for years, you vote a party in for a spell, they blot their copybook, you get tired of them and vote the other side in. You are the only people that voted them in, don't look to blame someone else. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prime_ministers_of_the_United_Kingdom Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 5 Jan 24 22:04   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - sooty123

>> I really don't know why you are so surprised. Who mentioned anything about being surprised? Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 5 Jan 24 22:06   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - Duncan

I did. I can read between the lines. Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 5 Jan 24 22:14   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - sooty123

Ah well you know what they say about assuming. Last edited by: sooty123 on Fri 5 Jan 24 at 22:16 Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 5 Jan 24 22:42   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - legacylad

Darth Vader & taxis ? Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 6 Jan 24 22:06   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - Kevin

>Chris Skidmore quits over new oil and gas licences.. Skidmore is paid £80k a year for 160hrs work advising a company that touts for business in "industrial decarbonisation and clean technology". Maybe he's going full time and couldn't resist the publicity? Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 6 Jan 24 22:32   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - sooty123

Skidmore is paid £80k a year for 160hrs work advising a company that touts for >> business in "industrial decarbonisation and clean technology". Maybe he's going full time and couldn't resist >> the publicity? >> I'm not sure the issuing of new licences makes much odds either way to the UK, there's so little left in the N Sea. I watched a piece on Sky news, I think by 2030 without the licences we'd import 95% of gas and oil, with them it was 93%. The new licences are for very small amounts of oil & gas. Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 6 Jan 24 23:28   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - Manatee

>>The new licences are for very small amounts of oil & gas. That's interesting. So perhaps the main problem here is the message it sends about UK's commitment to decarbonisation? And the claim that it would ensure UK's energy security is utter tripe, even if the production wasn't just going to end up on the commodity market. Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 6 Jan 24 23:41   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - sooty123

That's interesting. So perhaps the main problem here is the message it sends about UK's >> commitment to decarbonisation? >> >> And the claim that it would ensure UK's energy security is utter tripe, even if >> the production wasn't just going to end up on the commodity market. From my understanding it makes no real difference if the licences are granted or not, there's not much left. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 15 Jan 25 07:20   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - sooty123

news.sky.com/story/tulip-siddiq-resigned-as-treasury-minister-13287920 Looks like it's Labour's turn now. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 15 Jan 25 08:48   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - bathtub tom

Bye election results could be interesting. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 15 Jan 25 09:05   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - CGNorwich

What election? She is still an MP Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 15 Jan 25 10:17   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - Bromptonaut

>> What election? She is still an MP Tulip remains an MP but it's only a matter of time before death, misconduct or the prospect a better paid role leads an MP to chuck it in. Big majorities can also leave us with 'accidental MPs' who may be more likely to have issues in their past etc. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 15 Jan 25 12:35   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - bathtub tom

>> What election? She is still an MP I hear pressure's being applied, don't know why, I would have thought it's the last thing they need now with their current popularity. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 15 Jan 25 13:58   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - martin aston

What I find irritating is that part of her defence was that she didn’t break the Ministerial Code. Does she expect that accepting a £2m flat from persons unknown to her has to be explicitly spelled out in the code for it to be problem. I wonder if Starmer, as a lawyer, has a moral blind spot when it comes to things that are not specifically forbidden. He seems to lack political nous. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 15 Jan 25 15:02   Another One Bites the Dust - Volume 3 - maltrap

Tony Blair and his wife also had an extensive property portfolio. Reply to this message | Report message