Some good news re Peter Burkill and British Airways
www.peterburkill.com/blog.html
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Sorry, I couldn't be bothered to 'click' on the links.
Does this have any relevance?
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Try clicking on this one then! tinyurl.com/yeq5cdx
Last edited by: Perky Penguin on Thu 30 Sep 10 at 07:10
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I think he's the bloke who missed the runway at Heathrow a couple of years ago.
Took his redundo package, now it seems he's getting his old job back.
Nice work if you can get it.
As the OP says, good news for Capt Peter, but not quite such good news for BA shareholders.
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>> As the OP says, good news for Capt Peter, but not quite such good news
>> for BA shareholders.
They wont be doing it for charity, they wouldn't have got rid or got him back without commercial reasons.
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A bit harsh iffy! He "missed the runway" because both his engines stopped when he was about a mile short of the runway! The reason that this occurred has not been conclusively determined but the prime suspect was icing of the fuel. The conspiracy theorists say a convoy of vehicles containing Gordon Brown (our then Dear Leader) was passing under the approach at the same time and that electronic jamming devices used by his vehicles to prevent IEDs being initiated somehow interfered with the electronic controls of the engines. Getting his job back is a fair outcome, good news for him and BA.
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He didn't loose his job due to the crash, he took early redundancy under a general offer to BA pilots, he had plans elsewhere, they fell through however.
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...A bit harsh iffy!...
Possibly, although he did land on the grass.
He has told how he lost the trust of fellow crew members and how, despite being highly-qualified, a job elsewhere proved elusive.
The crash ruined his professional reputation, despite the inquiry finding he did nothing wrong.
I just think it's a bit rich - or a lot rich in his case - to take redundancy and then take your old job back.
And have all the trust of colleagues issues gone away?
I doubt it.
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>> Possibly, although he did land on the grass.
Because he had no power.
>> And have all the trust of colleagues issues gone away?
Got my trust, and I pay for seats.
Some of the best pilots were Aeroflot. Firstly they survived being shot at by the Mujahideen, then they flew planes were anything and everything technical could and did go wrong.
Me I'll fly with a known survivor every time.
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>> Some of the best pilots were Aeroflot. Firstly they survived being shot at by the
>> Mujahideen, then they flew planes were anything and everything technical could and did go wrong.
...and passing the time by merrily knocking the bottles of vodka back in the cockpit.
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Geezer is *more than* a hero IMO, stress of the experience (after the crash landing) musta taken its toll though,
Glad to hear he's got his old 'driving job' back.
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Taking redundancy and getting your job back is very common. Workers are laid off when times are bad and re-hired when things pick up. NHS managers get 6 figure packages for redundancy and walk into another job in another part of the country without any question of paying the money back!
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...Taking redundancy and getting your job back is very common...
Yes, all very convenient, isn't it?
Strictly speaking, if your are made redundant, you can't get your old job back, because it is also redundant - no longer exists.
Someone whose face didn't fit was made redundant at my place, and they hired someone to do the same job.
They got round that by changing the job title.
I also believe there is a time limit on redundant jobs, so after two or three years it is legal to hire someone for the job you made redundant earlier.
As regards this pilot, I'm glad he enjoys the confidence of Zero in Row D, seat seven.
But that's irrelevant.
The real question is what will the attitude of fellow crew members be when they learn Capt Peter is to be their pilot.
Last edited by: Iffy on Thu 30 Sep 10 at 09:02
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The aviation Fraternity is VERY pleased and supportive, and why not?
www.pprune.org/rumours-news/429025-capt-burkill-re-join-ba.html
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...The aviation Fraternity is VERY pleased and supportive, and why not?...
A lot of them are pilots, and this will be seen as a victory for pilots' rights.
So, to mangle a phrase: They would say that, wouldn't they?
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He took redundancy because BA had a surplus of people at his level/qualifications and they were prepared to offer him money to go.
Either the market has now turned round or (more likely) BA got their sums wrong and let too many people go. Now they’re re-hiring and he’s been appointed.
Without knowing what deal he got to go and the conditions on which he’s been re-employed it’s impossible to tell whether the deal is ‘fair’ or not. And anyway that’s a matter for BA managers to justify to shareholders.
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A commercial pilot told me that a crash on your record, regardless of blame, makes you practically unemployable. There's more pilots than jobs.
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>> The aviation Fraternity is VERY pleased and supportive, and why not?
>> www.pprune.org/rumours-news/429025-capt-burkill-re-join-ba.html
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From my reading of the posts in that forum, the pleasure is not universal.
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If you could take redundancy, and then get your old job back wouldn't you? I'm sure I would if the offer was there! Same job, but with a nice fat cheque in the bank
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I've known at least a handful of guys who have been laid off and then been brought in on a consultancy basis for the same company and better money - within a matter of weeks.
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>>From my reading of the posts in that forum, the pleasure is not universal.
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IIRC the original thread on pprune was supportive.
Of course support is not universal. There is a certain amount of bloodyness behind the locked door :-)
Last edited by: VxFan on Fri 1 Oct 10 at 01:14
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Seems pretty universal to me.., Apart from the seniority thing, which frankly is an anachronism from the days of ocean going liners.
Ranking should be by skill and experience, not hours up or years in.
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