Morning,
I have a restoration project in my garage that is currently SORNed and has no MOT. It isn't going to be back on the road for a looooong time - maybe never.
I'd like to transfer the number plate (old 'H') onto my Alfa, however googling the subject suggests I can't as the first vehicle ain't got an MOT.
Is this correct? Any way around it?
Thanks all.
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Yes it's correct and no there isn't a legal way around it as far as I know.
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There could be a way round it if your project happens to be one of the kind for which replacement chassis/bodyshells are made. eg E-type, TR, MG, LandRover.
You are allowed to replace the chassis (and a certain number of other components within the total point-scoring allowance) and don't need to notify DVLA - it still counts as original. Then get it taxed and MOT'd, then put the original chassis back on again and work on it as originally intended, and sell the redundant new chassis to another enthusiast.
It's longwinded and I'm not really being serious. But it's theoretically posible and legal. (?)
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Hmm... yes lots of dodgy diy cloning goes on with older series Land Rovers where the ID plates are just held with screws and the chassis stamped ID goes the first time a chassis nose is replaced due to corrosion.
Remember an MOT tester scratching his head at one I was MOTing after a rebuild with something of a parts mixture. He just asked if it was the vehicle shown on the V5 and I answered yes. Well it was.... mostly.
Last edited by: Fenlander on Thu 23 Sep 10 at 11:08
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I have the remains of a Bantam in the workshop. It's in boxes but the wheels are missing.
I bought it, really, for the number.
I spoke to my bike tester and he said he'll happily pass it as long as it looked like a bike when presented to him. I haven't had time to do it yet but I think i can cobble it together with the front wheel off the Velo plus a spare back one I've got.
Pop it on the trailer and bob's yer nobs.
It was all a lot easier when I was testing !
Might be a winter project for Bigtee's thread.
I wish I could get the plate off the Raleigh but it's ' non transferable ' I don't know why, the number wasn't allocated to the bike...it's the original.......TED***
Ted
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when i phoned the dvla about transferring my personal plate off my xantia i was told an mot wasnt required, but the vehicle had to be properly taxed or properly sorned. I suggest phoning them, the guy i spoke to was very helpful and explained it all.
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That didn't sound right cubleader so I looked at the small print on the dvla website but it is true. Turns out there is a circumstance when a no-MOT/off the road car can have the plate transferred off....
It needs to be a car where there is no gap between the tax expiring and it being declared SORN... and only in the 1st 12mth of SORN period.
I understand they reserve the right to inspect the donor car so in these circumstances they expect you to trailer it to the local dvla office.
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You misunderstood, or were given duff information. See www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/PersonalisedRegAndNumberPlates/DG_4022576 and particularly the lines where it says:
"Also enclose for both vehicles:
the registration certificate or the new keeper supplement with a completed V62 ‘application for a vehicle registration certificate V5C'
a test certificate – needed for cars and motorcycles over three years old, and heavy goods vehicles over one year old"
I thought that you used to be able to do a transfer within 6 months of the expiry of the last MOT, but I can't see that anywhere now.
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I was reading this bit Richard from the same page as your link....
>>>>However, if the vehicle that currently has the registration number is not taxed, you can still apply to transfer provided: there is no break between the date the tax disc runs out and the start of the SORN the tax disc run out no more than 12 months before the date you apply>>>>
Then when you look at the actual application form it says to enclose an MOT certificate *if applicable* which seems to say there are circumstances where an MOT may not be needed??
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No MOT required if <3 years old....
Not really clear is it - it says type that requires an MOT, and to send MOT, which implies MOT'd, but it doesn't explicitly state that. Sending the MOT may be just so they can stamp the MOT with the new reg number (I had one like that - had been MOTd under a cherished plate which had then been transferred off, and the MOT had been stamped with the 'new' reg number - actually not new, as it had been returned to its original number).
Going back to the OP's Q - you can't transfer a number off a heap of old rust in a barn that hasn't been MOT'd recently - or in the case of my motorbike, never MOT'd since it last ran in the early 50's! Fortunately this was registered when DVLA went computerised in the early 80's so if (when) I ever get it back together I will be able to re-register it under its original number (EN 4251) without having to prove the historical significance / number relationship. Reg doc I have says: First reg 01/07/29; last change of keeper: Oct 2000 (can't remember exact date); number of former keepers: 1 (!!!) Not true of course, but my Grandad did buy it around 1938.... Actually that's interesting, they are supposed to be re-issuing the V5s with tax / SORN requests, but this is not SORNed, so need to make sure the V5 doesn't go out of date.
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Transferring registration - MOT - Fenlander
