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New Thu 15 Jul 21 17:17 
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I understand what Zero means.

The football crowd is not racist, it is abusive. Of course there will be racists in there, but the crowd motivation is to be abusive. They will say anything to be abusive. They will criticise sexual preference, appearance, race, religion, partners, in fact anything.

By far the majority are not racist and to try to deal with them as such misses the point. As soon as a, say, black player states that he has been affected by racism, the abusive crowd sees that as a win.

Yet if one accused the culprit of racism he would loudly, and probably truthfully, deny it.

Saying racist abuse is wrong is akin to saying that black lives matter. Both are true, both are incomplete. All lives matter, all abuse is wrong.

Someone spouting racist abuse can, perhaps rightfully, deny being a racist. He cannot deny being abusive. We should pursue him for being offensive.

By and large football crowds are obnoxious. Whether that is because they are football supporters or just because they are large crowd, is difficult to know.

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