"....Re S43. I think the idiots that go around police stations videoing are a waste of space but again they are doing nothing illegal. It is clear that they are not terrorists - they are filming in the open - for the very purpose of egging on the police - and if the building is that sensitive then it ought to be behind a big wall. The police need reasonable suspicion of the person is being a terrorist. How many do they really think are - or are they using the powers to humiliate the photo / videographer - I suspect the latter, especially as the The National Police Chiefs' Council has told the police to leave them to get on with it....."
I've been away from a keyboard for a week so a delay in responding.
Its established that what they are doing is not illegal per se. They like to say its a 'legal' activity. There is a subtle difference between a legal activity and not illegal. A legal activity is prescribed in law. Not illegal means there are no laws (yet) preventing it. So its not legal nor is it illegal. Bit like 'recreational' drugs at one stage.
How is it clear they are not terrorists? Because they say so? That works well!
What you have to remember is that not everyone is aware of these unhinged individuals or what their MO is. So someone spending an awful amount of time hanging around Police a station and pointing their cameras through windows and gates is going to attract attention. It may come as a surprise but its actually the Police's job to investigate and deal what they believe to be engaged in suspicious behaviour. That involves speaking to these people.
Its also fair that they try and protect the anonymity of individuals who attend the Police stations and are often filmed in the background.
Most normal people would engage in a conversation - remember 'Policing by Consent' it's a 2 way process. Its at this point that they've hooked the bait for their equally unhinged followers and begin this rather childish refusal to engage. Is that not going to heighten anyones suspicion? Reasonable suspicion? Authors of their own destiny.
They have zero credibility because it always starts with the declaration that they are journalists doing a story on such and such which is a compete lie. They are only trying to get a bite for Youtube.
Google, Satellite and the Council do not go sticking individuals pictures on social media for the purpose of entertaining the great unwashed. You know that despite the protestations of these idiots that its a lawfully activity they know full well that people don't like it that's why when its not all going in their favour they immediately resort to, "Its all going on Youtube" as a means of retribution.
Last edited by: Fullchat on Sun 6 Jun 21 at 16:31
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