Non-motoring > There is always one Legal Questions
Thread Author: zippy Replies: 24

 There is always one - zippy
Bloke at work has refused to visit clients in central London, specifically the West End because of the level of pollution which is said to be dangerous.

Needless to say he is a vegan but drives an archaic Escort Diesel (non turbo)!

Work have said "ok" we will fill in with other staff and you can take some of their visits outside London.

Brilliant, others now get extra exposure!


Grrrrrrrrr!
 There is always one - Duncan
If it is too dangerous/polluted for him, then you can say that it is too polluted/dangerous for you, Shirley?
 There is always one - Bromptonaut
>> If it is too dangerous/polluted for him, then you can say that it is too
>> polluted/dangerous for you, Shirley?

If it's just one employee who has perhaps has previous for being a prima donna the employer may tolerate it, while perhaps notionally adding it to the 'charge sheet' for future. Otherwise you tell him his T&C's require him to go where he's told, refusal is a disciplinary matter.

Exceptions made for medical grounds, eg if he can show has severe asthma or some other condition making him vulnerable or major smogs like the one in January.
 There is always one - Cliff Pope
Perhaps now the employer has been alerted to a potential health issue it has a duty under the health and Safety legislation a) not to expose any staff to it, and b) not to permit their employees to use old polluting cars for work?
 There is always one - R.P.
Does he have any new fivers he doesn't want ?
 There is always one - Old Navy
Ban his pre Euro4 (or Euro anything) car from the workplace car park?
Last edited by: Old Navy on Tue 7 Mar 17 at 11:49
 There is always one - sooty123
Unless it's for medical grounds that seems very generous.
 There is always one - Cliff Pope
Diesel and other oil-based hydrocarbons are made from animal products. :)
 There is always one - Roger.
Unless he has a genuine, provable, medical condition , he is a useless wimp.
 There is always one - mikeyb
Maybe he just didn't like the central london visits and this was a tongue in cheek excuse?
 There is always one - zippy
>> Maybe he just didn't like the central london visits and this was a tongue in
>> cheek excuse?
>>

Oh this guy doesn't do tongue in cheek! Wouldn't be anywhere near as bad if he were one of the lads or lasses but he holds himself rather aloof.

I don't mind London but travelling there takes 3 times as long for me then it does for him.

After a visit there last week I have decided never to take a rush hour tube again and take a taxi instead, its much more civilised!

 There is always one - henry k
>> Oh this guy doesn't do tongue in cheek! Wouldn't be anywhere near as bad if
>> he were one of the lads or lasses but he holds himself rather aloof.
>>
We had a raving Vegan in our office who was PITA.
" Look at my plastic shoes and belt! I expect they are more expensive than you are wearing! etc"

When asked " What is that tin with pills in it that you are always accessing ?"
" Oh I need those to ensure I get enough minerals and and and and!"

No shrinking violet!

 There is always one - Mapmaker
>>After a visit there last week I have decided never to take a rush hour tube again and take a taxi instead, its much more civilised!

No it's not... the hours wasted in a cab are bonkers. I loathe being trapped in cabs and thus inevitably late for meetings.
 There is always one - CGNorwich
>> Diesel and other oil-based hydrocarbons are made from animal products. :)
>>

Are they?

I thought they were mineralised decomposed vegetable matter but I suppose they might contain the odd dinosaur remains.

I have a vegan relative who will not sit on my leather sofa and says he prefers the floor.
 There is always one - Runfer D'Hills
Yeah, that's Norfolk for you eh? ;-)
 There is always one - CGNorwich
He's from London actually. Strange but I don't normally eat a lot of meat myself but whenever I see him I fancy a plate of steak tartar, a black pudding and a fillet mignon with a couple of fried eggs on top.
 There is always one - MD
Lever sofa eh! Oooh! get you. o:-)
 There is always one - Dutchie
Last time in London a few years back.Must admit it stinks of fumes in some areas.It used to be the smog city.It is going back to the old days.
 There is always one - Roger.
I'm not sure, that was I of working age, you could pay me enough to work in London.
 There is always one - Old Navy
Or live there.
 There is always one - Bromptonaut
>> I'm not sure, that was I of working age, you could pay me enough to
>> work in London.

There are two issues. Working there and living there.

Was never happy living there (partially excepting some house shares in Stanmore/Harrow) but working in 'Legal London' around Chancery Lane > Lincoln's Inn > Holborn was really pleasant

Long distance commuting was fine for 25 years I was doing it. Train time was quality time to read, listen to music, plan the day or just watch ever changing scene outside.

Not sure I could go back to it now and expense of offices in Legal London mean I'd more likely be in Croydon or Stratford.
Last edited by: Bromptonaut on Tue 7 Mar 17 at 18:56
 There is always one - Roger.
I spent some years, from early 1966 to late 1972, working in Harrow, but covering, as a finance house rep. and later as a manager, most of the NW postcodes as well as some W5 & W7, plus the nicer bits such as Stanmore.
For the first few months I commuted by car from Pratts Bottom, to Kenton, each day. Try THAT now! (And drove home after a long day - see below)
A good part of the job - in the evenings, from about 6.30pm to 10.30pm, and unpaid, in terms of no overtime - was collecting money from defaulting customers, many of whom should never have been granted credit in the first place.
Interesting times: I can tell some tales of how the many of the dwellers in NW2 and NW10 lived in pretty squalid conditions in those days.(Remember Rachman?).
We used to go on these calls in pairs!
 There is always one - Bromptonaut
Kenton/Belmont was my stomping ground for a while 80- 85 living variously in Anmersh Grove, Alicia Gardens and then Grange Avenue. An oddly rural part of London.
 There is always one - Cliff Pope
>> >> Diesel and other oil-based hydrocarbons are made from animal products. :)
>> >>
>>
>> Are they?
>>
>> I thought they were mineralised decomposed vegetable matter but I suppose they might contain the
>> odd dinosaur remains.

I always thought it was crushed sea creatures?
 There is always one - Old Navy
It's liquid coal. I thought ex vegetation.

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Last edited by: Old Navy on Tue 7 Mar 17 at 21:14
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