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 Windows 10 - Volume 4 - VxFan

Continuing discussion of Microsoft's new operating system.

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Last edited by: VxFan on Mon 21 Sep 15 at 01:06
 Putting Windows 10 onto an older PC - Manatee
As "her" desktop seems OK on Windows 10 I decided the other day to update my "work" laptop, a 3 year old Lenovo E530.

I had to back it out. The wifi was the problem. It would start off OK, then go more and more slowly until the internet connection showed as "limited" (not working, for any practical purpose) and eventually the PC couldn't even see the wireless adaptor (Intel Centrino N2230). The machine would not do a soft restart either.

Funnily enough I had exactly the same issue with this laptop when I bought it. I tried every possible setting and driver update and in the end only fixed it by changing routers.

Anyway I have binned Windows 10 off the laptop, back to Windows 7 Pro 64 bit. I didn't notice which version of 10 I got, I was in such a hurry to get it off The reversion was fairly quick and problem-free.

I thought I was going to have to revert the desktop today. I created an invoice, and noticed Quickbooks is using $ signs instead of £. Quickbooks support says that my version (2010) "does not support" Windows 10. As a long shot, I changed the currency symbol in Control Panel from £ to $, then back again, restarted Quickbooks and it is fixed. I'm wondering how many more little 'issues' are going to appear. I only have a few days option left to ditch it.
Last edited by: VxFan on Mon 21 Sep 15 at 01:09
 Putting Windows 10 onto an older PC - MD
Amstrad 9512. Oh! how life was soo simple.
 Putting Windows 10 onto an older PC - Stuartli
>>Amstrad 9512. Oh! how life was soo simple.>>

Had the PCW 8256 with printer - as you say, simplicity itself.
 Windows 10 downloaded to PCs without permission - Dog
www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/microsoft/windows/11858343/Windows-10-downloaded-onto-computers-without-users-permission.html
Last edited by: VxFan on Mon 21 Sep 15 at 01:07
 Windows 10 Slow Wifi - sherlock47
The old Sony Laptop (with minimum spec of 2GB + 1.6 Ghz cpu) took W10 without too many problems. It was being used primarily just for iPlayer downloads via a VPN. Seemed quicker than the Vista that was previously installed. Edge is very responsive too.

However having relocated it to a wifi only acessible location I found that downloads had slowed to a snails pace over the VPN .

The original inbuilt wifi card had died sometime ago and it relied on a Netgear usb plug in. When w10 was installed I initially had problems with drivers for the wifi adaptor and used a Netgear installation CD which installed Netgear Genie. This had caused some problems with incorrect reporting of Internet status even when the VPN was disabled, but still functioned ok.

Uninstalling Genie had no effect other than disabling the USB wifi adaptor, although W10 was reporting that drivers were all ok.

The final solution was to uninstall all wifi related drivers. disable all wifi adaptors. and then re-install the usb adaptor whilst the computer was hard connected to the router. it then found new drivers on lineand has worked respectably with the VPN since.
 Windows 10 'God mode' - sherlock47
Very simple to do - and makes it very easy to access most useful functions!

ZDnet publishes a variety of IT newsletter style items via email, well worth registring for the emails.

www.zdnet.com/pictures/how-to-activate-godmode-in-windows-10/2/

PS copy and paste the the new folder name to avoid errors.
 Windows 10 'God mode' - smokie
...and here's a bunch of keyboard shortcuts (including some new ones for Win 10). So much quicker than using the mouse..
 Windows 10 'God mode' - Stuartli
I activated GodMode soon after installing Windows10 when it was released. Extremely handy and very useful and, in fact, available with Windows7 upwards.

You can rename it to whatever you wish, by the way - you don't have to call it GodMode.
 Windows 10 'God mode' - smokie
Makes ya feel important though :-)
 Windows 10 'God mode' - No FM2R
What is the point of moving 4 "W10 Tips" posts onto the end of a 122 post thread?

I hardly think that the amount of posts daily needs such organisation?
Last edited by: No FM2R on Sat 19 Sep 15 at 23:45
 Windows 10 'God mode' - ....
What is this Master Control Panel ?
I can't see anything in it that Win 7 Ultimate doesn't already have.
 Windows 10 'God mode' - Stuartli
>> What is this Master Control Panel ?
I can't see anything in it that Win 7 Ultimate doesn't already have.>>

I've pointed out that GodMode is available from Windows7 upwards...:-)
 Windows 10 'God mode' - VxFan
>> What is the point of moving 4 "W10 Tips" posts onto the end of a 122 post thread?

I was in the process of creating volume 4 when I got side-tracked into doing something else. It was meant to have been moved there but I moved it to vol 3 by mistake and haven't been back here to sort it all out until now.

Haven't you got some rumbles to sort out instead of worrying about where I'm moving stuff to? ;o)
 Windows 10 'God mode' - No FM2R
Worrying about what you're up to distracts me from the rumbles! Its a service you offer.

I think the original need for such consolidation has largely gone; it used to be that we didn't want endless off topic / non-motoring topics polluting stuff. However, banning such discussion was pointless, unsuccessful and gave people something to argue about; whereas confining them to a single thread became self-regulating and avoided any confrontation.

I am not sure that 16 years later and with a much smaller, as well as non-commercially oriented, forum that it is still valuable. I think it is more counter productive than helpful.
 Windows 10 'God mode' - No FM2R
p.s. only 23 earthquakes today, and the strongest was only 5.4.

Actually had to stir my tea for once!
 Windows 10 'God mode' - Zero
>> p.s. only 23 earthquakes today, and the strongest was only 5.4.

Did you know dicking around with your Windows 10 install, (especially implementing "God" mode) causes earthquakes?
 Windows 10 'God mode' - No FM2R
Two hours after I wrote that we had a 6.4

This is getting tiresome.
 Windows 10 'God mode' - Bromptonaut
>> I am not sure that 16 years later and with a much smaller, as well
>> as non-commercially oriented, forum that it is still valuable. I think it is more counter
>> productive than helpful.
>>

Long threads doesn't bother me on a PC or that much on the Hudl/phone. Can take a while for the big ones to download though.

They do though seem to cause some users on some phones etc a problem and from time to time those users post a message ask for particular threads to be split.
 Windows 10 'God mode' - Duncan
>> Long threads doesn't bother me on a PC or that much on the Hudl/phone. Can
>> take a while for the big ones to download though.

Reading on a PC can be tiresome if it is a long thread and replies are scattered about.

Unless, of course, I am missing an obvious trick. That wouldn't surprise me.
 Windows 10 'God mode' - No FM2R
>>...and here's a bunch of keyboard shortcuts .........

Ummm.............
 Windows 10 - Win7 update - ....
I had recently removed all reference to the Win X upgrade from my Win 7 PC.

I thought (and I could be wrong on this) the option to upgrade had previously been available through Optional updates rather than Important updates. Either way, I had previously hidden update 3035583.

This morning while looking through the available updates I find 3035583 is now sitting in my Important updates waiting for me to hit go.

Something to be aware of if you have not installed Win X and do not wish to move at this time for any reason.
 Windows 10 - Win7 update - neiltoo
This has happenned to me also.
Anyone know how to stop it?

I can't now do any updates without taking it.

TIA
Last edited by: neiltoo on Sun 11 Oct 15 at 09:42
 Windows 10 - Win7 update - ....
Right click the update (assuming you have a right hand configured mouse) takes you into the context menu where you can choose to hide the update. It will not load then.
 Windows 10 - Win7 update - spamcan61
>> Right click the update (assuming you have a right hand configured mouse) takes you into
>> the context menu where you can choose to hide the update. It will not load
>> then.
>>

...until the next time Microsoft decide to 'unhide' it for you, which is about once a month IMX. It's getting a right pain to keep the Win10 related crud and spyware out of Win7 now, which is presumably Microsoft's strategy.
 Windows 10 - Win7 update - Dog
I checked for windows updates this morning and it came up with:

Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3035583)

And

Definition Update for Windows Defender - KB915597 (Definition 1.207.2461.0)

Which I then selected but, it wanted to install windows 10 as well, so I gave it the Spanish archer.

 Windows 10 - Win7 update - Clk Sec
>> so I gave it the Spanish archer.

El Bow. For those north of Watford Gap.
 Windows 10 - Win7 update - Duncan
>> El Bow. For those north of Watford Gap.
>>

Watford. It's Watford. The North starts at Watford.

You see, it's a joke.
 Windows 10 - Win7 update - Zero
>> Watford. It's Watford. The North starts at Watford.
>>
>> You see, it's a joke.

Does it? Where does "The Norf" start? I'm inclined to think Watford a bit foreign, The Norf possibly starting at 'Arrow
Last edited by: Zero on Sun 11 Oct 15 at 22:46
 Windows 10 - Win7 update - Clk Sec
>> Watford. It's Watford. The North starts at Watford.

Watford, Watford, Watford. Never 'eard of those places. Watford Gap; now we all know where that is, don't we?
 Windows 10 - Win7 update - spamcan61
>> I checked for windows updates this morning and it came up with:
>>
>> Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3035583)
>>
That's the main Win10 one, not really an update to Win 7. I seemed to have lost 2GB or so of my C: drive last week, which is getting tight for space, turned out Microsoft had decided to download Win 10 to the computer, even though I'd not accepted the invite. mutter mutter.
 Windows 10 - Win7 update - Dog


I tried just selecting the 'Definition Update for Windows Defender' but it still goes on to the windows 10 'fool' installation, so I go and put the Tesco's finest salmon with lemon and spinach fishcakes on :)
 Windows 10 - Win7 update - ....
>> >> Right click the update (assuming you have a right hand configured mouse) takes you
>> into
>> >> the context menu where you can choose to hide the update. It will not
>> load
>> >> then.
>> >>
>>
>> ...until the next time Microsoft decide to 'unhide' it for you, which is about once
>> a month IMX. It's getting a right pain to keep the Win10 related crud and
>> spyware out of Win7 now, which is presumably Microsoft's strategy.
>>

From the SysAdmin account

Registry Tweak 1:

1. Type regedit in RUN or Start search box and press Enter. It'll open Registry Editor.

2. Now go to following key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREPoliciesMicrosoftWindows

3. Create a new key under Windows key and set its name as GWX

So the final key path would be:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREPoliciesMicrosoftWindowsGWX

4. Now select GWX key and in right-side pane create a new DWORD DisableGWX and set its value to 1

Close Registry Editor and restart your computer to take effect.

Registry Tweak 2:

1. Again in Registry Editor, go to following key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREPoliciesMicrosoftWindows

2. Create a new key under Windows key and set its name as WindowsUpdate

So the final key path would be:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREPoliciesMicrosoftWindowsWindowsUpdate

3. Now select WindowsUpdate key and in right-side pane create a new DWORD DisableOSUpgrade and set its value to 1

Close Registry Editor and restart your computer to take effect.

Registry Tweak 3:

1. Again in Registry Editor, go to following key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionWindowsUp
dateOSUpgrade


2. In right-side pane, look for two DWORDs AllowOSUpgrade and ReservationsAllowed and change their values to 0

After applying all these tweaks, close Registry Editor and restart your computer to take effect.

It'll permanently disable "Get Windows 10" app and will also remove its icon from Taskbar.

In future, if you decide to re-enable the app and its icon, simply delete the DWORDs created in above steps.
 Windows 10 Yes or No? - Duncan
When Windows 10 first came out it downloaded itself onto my PC. I rolled it back to 8.1 because I couldn't control the timing of updates and as I was then on a 10GB a month data ration, it was putting me in danger of going over my limit and incurring extra charges.

I have now switched to an unlimited data plan and trying to keep 10 at bay is becoming tiresome.

Should I allow it to download, install and run?
 Windows 10 Yes or No? - smokie
It's been OK for me on three computers for some months now, two of which are worked quite hard in a leisure style (music, media, email, browsing and some Office stuff - Word and Excel).

However I do have one computer which has a connection to my solar panels (so I can get details of what I'm generating) and the driver for the device worked for some weeks but then stopped. May or may not be Windows 10 related but for the time being that one has gone back to Windows 7. But that's pretty exotic compared to most peoples usage.

So yes, I'd go with it.
Last edited by: smokie on Fri 16 Oct 15 at 08:04
 Windows 10 Yes or No? - VxFan
My daily PC was upgraded from 8.1 to 10. No issues with it so far. Touch wood.
 Windows 10 Yes or No? - No FM2R
>>Should I allow it to download, install and run?

I would.

My installations have been without major issue, but there has been the odd tireseome niggle. Almost all of which have been things which initially worked just fine and then later gave trouble.

So whilst I wouldn't expect it to be entirely trouble free, its without major issue and still worth doing.
 Windows 10 Yes or No? - Duncan
I did the deed this morning. It seems to be ok. If it all goes wrong, then it's smokie's fault!
;-)
Last edited by: Duncan on Fri 16 Oct 15 at 10:56
 Windows 10 Yes or No? - ....
Part of me says do it, you'll be there one way or the other in the next year or two.
I don't want to do it on my netbook as it's only a 1.6GHz dual core atom processor with 2GB RAM. My PC is over 7 years old, part of me is thinking why bother I'll be buying a new PC sooner or later which will have 10 pre-installed.
 Windows 10 Yes or No? - VxFan
>> My PC is over 7 years old, part of me is thinking why bother I'll be buying a new PC sooner or later

Pretty sure someone previously mentioned on here that they upgraded an old PC and Win10 was less power hungry than Win 7/8 and subsequently speeded up the PC. Might have been Zero, but could be wrong.
 Windows 10 Yes or No? - sherlock47
I posted that I had upgraded an old Sony laptop from Vista to W10 as a fresh install, (I had a W7 CoA). 2GB memory (nax) and, from memory, 1.6 G CPU. Worked adequately running as a VPN connected iPlayer acces machine for foreign use. Could not download and play at same time, but steaming was ok.

Seemed faster better than previous Vista.
 Windows 10 Yes or No? - neiltoo
If I recall, I think W3 was better than Vista.

8o)
 Windows 10 Yes or No? - ....
>> Pretty sure someone previously mentioned on here that they upgraded an old PC and Win10
>> was less power hungry than Win 7/8 and subsequently speeded up the PC. Might have
>> been Zero, but could be wrong.
>>

The performance of the machine is fine, it's a Core 2 Quad Intel processor 2.3GHz with 8GB RAM. It's more a question of how long before it dies.

It's been a bit temperamental of late booting up.
 Win 10 - spyware - devonite
For those of you that may be bothered by the "Info Gathering" of Win 10, the good folk at Spybot have a "free" App that searches, finds and blocks any Telemetry trying to report back.

I'm giving it a whirl anyway!

SDAntibeacon 1.5
 Win 10 - spyware - Zero
Windows have recently changed it, and included a "spybot" disabler routine. Its been renamed and is now called "Connected User Experiences and Telemetry Service”. The way to block it is to disable it manually via the Services control panel.
 Win 10 - spyware - Stuartli
>>The way to block it is to disable it manually via the Services control panel.>>

Unfortunately not listed in my case, nor anything resembling it.

I used a Windows Privacy utility from Majorgeeks.com a few weeks ago that did the job - there are now several available.
Last edited by: Stuartli on Sun 29 Nov 15 at 00:56
 Win 10 - spyware - Roger.
I use Spybot Anti-Beacon. FREE. Simple to "immunise" W10 privacy issues.
 Windows 10 updates - VxFan
Has anyone else recently had the huge update for Win 10?

Powered up my Pc at 16:30 today and it gave the impression that it wasn't booting up, then all of a sudden (after 5 or so minutes) the screen burst into life and said not to turn off the PC as it was doing updates.

Some 1 hr 15 mins later it had finished.
 Windows 10 updates - No FM2R
I don't think so, but it might have happened at night. Do you know its number?
 Windows 10 updates - No FM2R
It would appear that the last update I had to the operating system was 8th December (KB3116869). Anything since then seems to have been Defender or Office.
Last edited by: No FM2R on Sat 19 Dec 15 at 19:00
 Windows 10 updates - VxFan
>> Do you know its number?

KB3124200 I think.
 Windows 10 updates - ....
KB3080149 – Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry, CEIP
KB3075249 – Telemetry, reports UAC prompts to Microsoft
KB3068708 – installs telemetry service, prepares system for upgrade to Windows 10
KB3050267 – Windows 8 - prepares system for upgrade to Windows 10
KB3044374 – update that supports you to upgrade to a later version of Windows Win8
KB3035583 – pitches the free Windows 10 upgrade
KB3022345 – installs diagnostic/usage tracking service,
KB3021917 – prepares system for upgrade to Windows 10 in Windows 7 Service Pack 1
KB3015249 – Telemetry, reports UAC prompt choices when making changes to the system
KB3014460 – Windows 8 - Nags you to install Windows 10 technical preview
KB2990214 – update that supports you to upgrade to a later version of Windows Win7
KB2977759 – prepares system for upgrade to Windows 10, installs telemetry
KB2976978, – the Windows 8/8.1 nagware patch that touts the Windows 10 upgrade.
KB2952664 – is the Windows 7 nagware patch that touts the Windows 10 upgrade.

Also, KB3102810 is supposed to help windows 7 updates issues
Last edited by: gmac on Sat 19 Dec 15 at 21:28
 Windows 10 - 3 Upgrades/Installs - tyrednemotional
...well, I finally bit the bullet over the holidays and updated 3 of the 7 (really!) household PCs to Win 10.

My Lenovo Thinkpad, which was on Win 7 Pro 64 bit was upgraded in-situ to the equivalent Win 10, (in order to obtain a valid, digital Win 10 license key), and then immediately overwritten with a clean install - which automatically activates with the aforesaid license key. (This is the only valid free way of "upgrading" ending up with a clean install and retaining a valid key). Having removed the Lenovo bloatware, this is now quite a responsive m/c (and, against my prejudices, once it has been "fettled" - with many defaults changed - I don't dislike Win 10 at all).

An old Asus eeePC netbook (with Win 7 Home 32 bit) was upgraded and clean installed in a similar manner. The screen (1024x600) doesn't meet the minimum requirement for Win 10 (1024x768) but apparently MS made a late change to the video driver, and it now works. (and, for a low-spec m/c, remarkably well).

SWMBOs Acer Travelmate (which came with Win 8.1) was upgraded in-situ. This has ended up with an odd, but non-intrusive, issue on the home network which is widely-reported but not yet resolved - otherwise, again, all is well.

All these have been updated/reinstalled as appropriate from downloaded software on a USB key, NOT the Windows Update route.

The remaining m/cs are a little Linux Shuttle XPC (about 10 years old, and only ever reached Windows XP), my son's second (at home) m/c (already taken back to vanilla Win 7, so a Win 10 upgrade and reinstall for that, soon), the desktop from which I'm posting this on Win 7 home, and which has quite a lot of ageing software that is threatened by Win 10 and may cause me to delay upgrade, and a Win 7 based HTPC, which is much-used, and won't get upgraded, as MS in their wisdom have killed Windows Media Centre - which, quite nicely does everything I want.

(and not only that, they have removed from Win 10 the ability to play the .WTV files - their own closed format - that Media Centre uses. That has caused me some heartache, as they were playable in Media Player (note, not Centre) on Win 7, and I could simply transfer recorded TV files to any of the other m/cs for playback, without and transcoding.

There are very few programs that will play these files (particularly HD recordings) but I finally found that KODI (free) will.





 Windows 10 - 3 Upgrades/Installs - spamcan61
>>
>> An old Asus eeePC netbook (with Win 7 Home 32 bit) was upgraded and clean
>> installed in a similar manner. The screen (1024x600) doesn't meet the minimum requirement for Win
>> 10 (1024x768) but apparently MS made a late change to the video driver, and it
>> now works. (and, for a low-spec m/c, remarkably well).
>>
Ah, now that's interesting - the one and only household machine I want to put Win10 on is an MSI U180, also with 1024x600 screen; I haven't bothered due to this display resolution limitation - sounds like it might be worth a punt though. It currently has Win 7 Starter on it and runs like a one legged dog.
 Windows 10 - 3 Upgrades/Installs - tyrednemotional
...the eeePC came with Starter, but was upgraded to Home, and the memory augmented.

Worked reasonably OK for a good few years, but has a bit of (cosmetic) damage and was replaced by a newer, faster m/c for SWMBO.

I had ignored the prospect of Win 10 on it due the screen limitation, but then read of someone's success, and the MS update.

(And Windows 7 starter should upgrade to Win 10 home, which is a bit of a plus).

If possible, I would recommend the upgrade (for licence) followed by a clean install, but for the latter you'll have to back up anything you want to keep. The m/c worked fine after upgrade only, though.

 Windows 10 - 3 Upgrades/Installs - tyrednemotional
>> ...the eeePC came with Starter

...on reflection, it didn't. It came with XP which was updated in short order to Win 7 Home.
 Windows 10 - Volume 4 - No FM2R
I have a peculiar issue I cannot get to the bottom of with windows 10.

When playing a video, seemingly irrespective of which media player one is using, the video will freeze. Mostly this happens at the moment I am moving something on the screen, but reasonably often, like abut 10 minutes ago, it just happens out of the blue.

When it happens the player freezes and cannot be closed. In Task Manager it shows as not responding. It seems impossible to end the process or close the application window.

After a few minutes then Windows Explorer then freezes also.

However, the mouse works and for the most part windows can be manipulated except the frozen video player.

After up to 10 minutes suddenly everything unfreezes; the media player closes, explorer restarts and everything seems completely normal.

Sometimes the C: Drive sits at 100% used, but not always. On the occasions that it is being heavily used then the disk usage drops off to normal the moment the freeze clears.

It has never happened twice in quick succession. It happens about two or three times a week on a computer which probably plays 10 videos a day.

Using SHEXView I have investigated and ultimately disabled all shell/context add-ons.
I have uninstalled, deleted and reinstalled all video drivers (NVidia)
I have uninstalled, deleted and reinstalled all audio drivers
I have run all anti-Malware, AdWare, Anti virus tools and found nothing
Nothing has particularly changed on the computer
I can find nothing notable in log or error files, although I'm no expert on the System Event logs.

Nothing is making the problem better or worse.
There are no other noticeable problems with the computer
The computer is up to date
There is no dodgy, illegal or flakey software on the computer that I am aware of

Any thoughts welcome, I'm at a loss.
 Windows 10 - Volume 4 - Crankcase
Little free utility I've used with some success on the odd occasion is this - gives you a clue as to what is actually hanging. Might point you in the right direction if nothing else.

www.nirsoft.net/utils/what_is_hang.html

 Windows 10 - Volume 4 - No FM2R
>>Little free utility ...

Cheers, I'll give it a go.
 Windows 10 - Volume 4 - Stuartli
I installed Windows 10 on several desktops and computers when it first launched at the end of July with few problems.

However, the recent first major upgrade has proved a real PUTA and has involved quite a lot of time sorting out frustrating niggles and problems.

In contrast, Windows7 was supremely virtually trouble free over a period of five years...:-(
 Windows 10 - Configuring E Mail - Bromptonaut
Currently using Windows Live Mail 2011 as an email client. Does all I want in terms of my @live.co.uk and ISP associated email accounts but I've recently had email from Microsoft saying it's no longer supported and recommending I migrate to the email thing in Windows 10.

Happy to do this but it doesn't seem to have functionality to import settings and folders, including my email archive, from Live Mail. Got a few 'rules' in there to send email from several hobby or professional senders straight to discrete folders rather than inbox and don't want to lose those as they're a faff to get right.

Any suggestions?
Last edited by: Bromptonaut on Thu 14 Jan 16 at 16:55
 Windows 10 - Configuring E Mail - Zero

>> Any suggestions?

No longer supported is not no longer works. If what you have is working, stay with it.
 Windows 10 - Configuring E Mail - No FM2R
"not supported" is not necessarily the same as "not working". Do they mention that it will break?

FWIW Google threw this up...

bestwindows10apps.com/best-email-clients-windows-10/

But I think your stumbling block is going to be the importing of settings, whatever you change to.
 Windows 10 - Configuring E Mail - tyrednemotional
I was also using Live Mail 2011 on this m/c (It is simple, and has some features such as a consolidated inbox, that I can't replicate on Outlook).

I've downloaded Live Mail 2012, which kept my settings and mailfiles.

I'm on Win7 (on this m/c), but it is supposedly (at least currently) OK on Win10 (though they have recently issued a fix (KB3093594) which is required to keep it running with Microsoft eMail accounts if you use them. (Windows Update this month has flagged this as an "optional" on my system)


 Windows 10 - Configuring E Mail - No FM2R
Its not looking good...

www.windowscentral.com/update-required-keep-using-windows-live-mail-2012-microsoft-accounts
 Windows 10 - Configuring E Mail - tyrednemotional
...aye...that's the fix which I highlighted above, and I will apply in a few minutes.

 Windows 10 - Configuring E Mail - spamcan61
>> I was also using Live Mail 2011 on this m/c (It is simple, and has
>> some features such as a consolidated inbox, that I can't replicate on Outlook).
>>
Same here, for the same reason.
 Windows 10 - Configuring E Mail - tyrednemotional
I've avoided the fix for the time being, partially because it's a re-issued fix following earlier problems, but mainly because the info on the fix itself indicates that it may will create problems!

Same old Microsoft....

(And FWIW, anyone who wants to migrate between mail systems, or create a nice, easily portable backup, might find the free software here:

www.mailstore.com/en/mailstore-home-email-archiving.aspx

useful.

It was the only free software I could find that did useful migrations across various different clients (and notably, Outlook to Windows Mail - yes, you heard correctly). It works very well, and running off a memory stick gives it tremendous flexibility.)
 Windows 10 - Configuring E Mail - Zero
I have always used Express Assist to move mail and other user data form system to system. Its free for 15 days. I only use if for 15 minutes and then dump it
 Windows 10 - Configuring E Mail - tyrednemotional
...doesn't cope with as many formats though, and specifically Outlook, which was what I wanted.

Once you've got to grips with it to do a migration (which is essentially an archive/backup, then restore to a different client format), with it being a perpetual free licence, you then have the ability to flexibly archive any of the email, to order.

Whilst my nightly scheduled backup includes all my email, I also do a separate full archive on an occasional basis using Mailstore.

Experience has taught me you can't have enough backups... (well, you obviously can, but you get the drift). ;-)
 Windows 10 - Volume 4 - Bobby
When Win 10 first came out, I clicked on the icon to reserve a free copy (currently running Win 7)

I never did anything with it but either someone else in the house has, or it is starting to get more "aggressive" in wanting it downloaded. It is now popping up to advise me the download is scheduled for a few days time and I just need to keep the laptop switched on.

Whats the general consensus, has things stabilised with it since release? If I delay this altogether am I just being a luddite and delaying the inevitable?
 Windows 10 - Volume 4 - rtj70
You'll probably find it has downloaded it but not installed it. They are aggressively pushing this.

For my PC (rarely used) I thought I might try it in the end. And if I didn't like it I'd restore the backup I'd taken. Then in the future a clean install would be possible.

Well the machine was backed up at disk level. Upgraded with the latest version (probably a mistake to re-download a copy).... and the upgrade kept rebooting. In the end I thought I'd just restore my backup... Fun and games later.... Back with a working backed up copy of Windows 7.

But in the process I wiped out everything, did a clean install of Windows 10 on the spare SSD and with a little hassle got Windows 7 back on as well.

Not touched Windows 7 or 10 since. Oh and the power button now sometimes doesn't work. The internal one on the motherboard does.
 Windows 10 - Volume 4 - smokie
"has things stabilised with it since release"

Been stable here since day 1, and it's now on all machines for which I have responsibility (about 8 or 9 I think).

I have one machine which will not take any more updates and I don't know why but I really am not bothered. It will get a clean install sooner or later. Being and early adopter of Windows 10 has not been a bad experience at all. Go for it...
 Windows 10 - Volume 4 - Stuartli
Like you I've had very few problems, but the laptop belonging to my best mate has proved a pain each time there is a monthly update.

Biggest problems are that the Start Menu regularly disappears (keep getting it back using recommended methods), but the Control Panel cannot be assessed properly and the laptop itself has slowed almost to a crawl at times. Again recommendations work for a spell and then it reverts to 0-60mph in around 10 minutes...:-(
 Windows 10 - Volume 4 - No FM2R
I did have similar problems on a W10 computer, (start menu, control panel, search, speed) it turned out to be the Anti Virus software - I think it was Avast but I'm not sure now.

I removed that and the issues never occurred again.
Last edited by: No FM2R on Tue 8 Mar 16 at 15:04
 Windows 10 - Volume 4 - Stuartli
Both my desktop and laptop and the laptop referred to earlier feature Avast! AV....:-)

Mine give no problems, but the problem device has been cured (at least temporarily) by Refreshing WindowsExplorer.exe, one of a number of possible solutions, although Control Panel still plays up.
 Windows 10 - Volume 4 - devonite
If you look in Avast settings there is a check-box that allows you to make Avast load itself last, I think this was a temp workaround by Avast to help eliminate the probs your having, they are aware that Avast can slow/prevent some services running in win10.
 Windows 10 - Volume 4 - Stuartli
>>..they are aware that Avast can slow/prevent some services running in win10.>>

Thanks. I've passed that tip on...:-)
 windows 10 help - please! - bathtub tom
So I've now got windows 10. I have to right mouse click on the window symbol in the bottom LH corner of the screen to shut down - I've figured that much out.

How do I download photos? I get a satisfactory 'did did gooooo' sound when I plug the camera into a USB port, but where the hell do I find it? Nothing comes up on the task bar and I can't find it anywhere in the drop down when I right click on that window symbol. I get nothing when I left click on it.

 windows 10 help - please! - smokie
I've always copied photos "manually".

If your camera is connecting properly then you should see it as a disk drive in File Explorer.

You should then be able to navigate to the photo folder (often under DCIM), select the pics you want and copy/[paste them to where you want.

So check first that you are seeing it as a disk in File Explorer. Without that I don't think you will get very far.

EDIT: You say you found the right click. But left click does different stuff, don't overlook it!! To me, right click is for tools, settings and admin type stuff whereas left click is where my apps are. To open Explorer easily just press Windows key and E together.

Last edited by: smokie on Wed 4 May 16 at 17:37
 windows 10 help - please! - VxFan
>> EDIT: You say you found the right click. But left click does different stuff,

Left clicking the Windows Start symbol also allows you to shut down the pc, put it into hibernate, sleep, etc.

ps, If I remember, I'll move this over to the Windows 10 thread later.
 windows 10 help - please! - bathtub tom
Thanks smokie, found it in explorer.

Left clicking on the window symbol does nothing. I know SWMBO got very confused when it arrived - I suspect she opted in to it, albeit unknowingly.

Is there some way I can revert to basic windows 10 settings?
 windows 10 help - please! - smokie
Not sure what you are really after but this seems quite popular as it gives a Windows 7 feel to Windows 10.

www.classicshell.net/

Not used it myself so can't really comment on it...

Left click should bring up your apps. You mean it does absolutely nothing? Maybe I did something which I've forgotten to make it do that.

Does that mean you are OK with the picture import now?

Dave - I seem able to do the power stuff from left or right click.
 windows 10 help - please! - Slidingpillar
I use Classic Shell. I used it with Windows 8.1 and thought I could manage without it when I went Windows 10. Fat chance, I lasted all of half a day and downloaded it again.
 windows 10 help - please! - No FM2R
>>Left clicking on the window symbol does nothing

That is strange. It should.

As a shot in the dark, which anti-virus software do you use? Avast?
 windows 10 help - please! - bathtub tom
>> As a shot in the dark, which anti-virus software do you use? Avast?

AVG

Perhaps I should add there was an 'ask corvanta' panel or something similar just to the right of the windows image that's now been replaced by 'search the web and windows'.

Don't ask me what SWMBO does when I'm not here!
Last edited by: bathtub tom on Wed 4 May 16 at 23:11
 windows 10 help - please! - Stuartli
Unless Windows10 comes up with the AutoPlay panel and the opportunity to Export photo files from your phone to a PC/laptop, as suggested the best way is to create a new folder in My Pictures before opening the DC (Digital Camera) folder in the phone (listed in This PC), Copying the photo files you wish to transfer and then Pasting them into the new folder (or an existing folder).

It's a pain compared to the original method, but at least it gets the job done...:-)
 windows 10 help - please! - No FM2R
>>AVG

I had this issue on one of my girls' computers. Uninstalling the Anti virus and rebooting made the problem go away.

I rely on backups and Windows Defender these days. Its easier.
 windows 10 help - please! - Roger.
The first time I tried to update to W10, build 1511, (the major update of W10) my laptop refused to boot up, recycling the welcome page, so I reverted to the previously installed version of W10.
Ever since, Windows update has declined to re-offer build 1511, so after a little research I downloaded (from Microsoft) the "Media Creation Tool".
I ran this and chose "upgrade system" as the option.
The tool happily checked for any other due updates and reinstalled Windows10 as build 1511. (I chose the other option of leaving all files etc. in place.)
After about an hour or so the laptop booted up happily to W10, build 1511.
Post installation, I did run Ccleaner to clear out unused, or invalid, registry entries, followed by a Ccleaner general clean and a system defrag using Ultra defrag.
I did notice that just one or two setting had been changed, notably the power scheme settings and the enabling of password protection when awaking the laptop from sleep. Easily sorted and the machine is running happily.
(During my first installation I was using Comodo Internet Security: during the latest one I was using the dreaded Chinese thing (yeah, yeah you nigglers!) 360 total Security)
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