>> My spats with NoFM are legendary but I'd be ................
Here's something I don't understand. This is a discussion forum, its for discussion. Many different subjects will be discussed. Why complain about the discussion?
Some of them will interest you, and some will not. When there is one you don't wish to read, then don't read it.
There are some, Pat, Simon, certainly me, AC and others who can argue, even too strongly, and then allow the world to keep spinning on its axis.
Pat and I don't agree. But however much she may annoy me, or indeed I her, I cannot imagine ever being offended by her. Its only an argument, and not only am I not a person to simply say yes, I don't enjoy the company of people that are.
I would never want her to leave, nor do I think the place would be better without her. For a start, who wants to argue with a wuss!?
I know the reasons that various peoples state for not being here. But the truth is those reasons are reasons for them alone and aren't really valid for anyone else nor worth worrying about unduly. It simply comes down to someone not finding the place as much fun as they found it yesterday which is inevitable over time.
HJ's backroom used to have about a 24 month turnover. i.e. if one read a batch of lively threads 2 years apart, the participants would be substantially, although not totally, different. There's no reason to suppose that this place, or any other forum for that matter, would be much different.
Politics and religion are dangerous subjects of which to allow free discussion. They just become angry. Still, that is a matter for moderators, since its directly related to the amount of time they need to put in and they can be controlled.
Racism is a whole 'nother subject - its one of the few points of view that I would simply ban. That, like anything else offensive, should just not be permitted and it attracts the wrong types and generates the wrong environment. I still remain surprised that it was accepted.
I am also quite genuinely shocked about some of the views. Quite an awakening.
>> >>Yet you say it's boring without Zero... you can't have it both ways.<<
>> Oh yes I can, simple politeness would be the answer to most of the problems.
Didn't I hear you saying a month or so ago about how you missed Zero's insults and stand up rows you felt free to have with him? Or something like that, I may well have misunderstood.
>> It says more about the contributors to a discussion than it does about the subject
>> if it has to be banned.
Agreed. Although sometimes it just says something about how much time the moderators can be bothered to spend on the place.
Equally owners typically want a place to have a "style". Usually a lot of moderating decisions come down to a combination of both promoting, encouraging and protecting that style.
There seems to be no stated direction, style or goal for this place. Part of the issue, I think.
Overall, strong people who have lead interesting lives and know interesting stuff *will* be annoying sometimes. I don't believe it can be otherwise. Nobody can only be strong on stuff you agree with and then all tolerant sweetness and light on stuff you don't like.
Big picture, real world, rough with the smooth, life is too short.
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