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Pat will go, it looks a lot like Caravaning. Takes ages to get there, and when you arrive you live in a little metal box.
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At least it doesn't rain every day on Mars ... I wonder if they'll take Dogs!
(*_*)
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What chance have we got sending people to Mars when we can't even send illegal immigrants back to where they came from?
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HG Wells sent the Martians back.
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No he didn't, they got the sniffles and went nipples up.
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Thanks to our loyal bacteria, pulling their weight for once...
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>> No he didn't, they got the sniffles and went nipples up.
At the end of the day, there are no martians seeking asylum, creaming benefits, or chasing half naked white boys through the streets of Bury on the holly festival of Marsadan.
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>> or chasing half naked white boys through the streets of Bury
Those boys are asking for it by dressing provocatively. Sauce for goose sauce for gander innit?
>> on the holly festival of Marsadan.
Oh deary me... shome mishtake shurely?
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If I didn't have children, I'd apply in a second.
Probably should be younger as well, though.
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Frankly, I'm surprised we haven't got more would-be Martians by now, I'm up for it and I shall (probably) apply to be a part of the project.
I'll be 70 at the time of blast orf in 2022 and I reckon it would be better to send the oldies on a one-way mission like this, so I'd better start my 8 years training, next year.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2389076/More-100-000-people-want-fly-Mars-2022--come-back.html
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"It would be better to send the oldies on a one-way mission like this, so I'd better start my 8 years training, next year."
Yep - you've all got a place on the "B" Ark together with the hairdressers, tired TV producers, insurance salesmen, personnel officers, security guards, public relations executives, management consultants. You're going to colonize another planet."
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>> You're going to colonize another planet."
So, mature intelligent colonists accompanied by young women at the peak of fertility to ensure an initial population with decent DNA and that CGN?
Robert Heinlein wrote a novel about this - Farnham's Freehold I seem to remember - which verged on the perverse actually... I read that stuff for amusement when young.
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>> So, mature intelligent colonists accompanied by young women at the peak of fertility to ensure
>> an initial population with decent DNA and that CGN?
Something like that AC. The rest of us will be along later . Honest.
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>> The rest of us will be along later . Honest.
I'm afraid our special descendants may prove a bit snooty when a lot of old geezers turn up late CGN. You will only have yourselves to blame for not getting in on the ground floor.
I liked Heinlein's ingenuity but he had a distinctly fascizing side. Real all-American boy.
Isaac Asimov was vastly preferable politically. The Foundation trilogy, 30,000 years of galactic history compressed into three neurotic and frankly frivolous novels... CHAPEAU!!
But that stuff palls when you are properly grown up.
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I think there were 7 books in the Foundation Trilogy.
And I loved them. Still read them from time to time.
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>> 7 books in the Foundation Trilogy.
That's some trilogy FMR, knowImean?
But I can't help doubting if I'd get through even one of the other four now without getting bored.
I remember Isaac Asimov as a liberal ideologue though. I can't remember which of the main magazines he was associated with, but he took a stand on something back then that endeared him to me. It was either Vietnam or Israel/Palestine, probably Vietnam I'm afraid. One has to remember that the US, and its popular literature, were rabidly reactionary in those days as a rule.
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By the way: Isaac Asimov is a bad, slapdash writer saved by ideas, enthusiasm and intellectual brio, Heinlein a vastly more talented writer let down from time to time by some dubious attitudes.
.... IMHO of course.
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>> .... IMHO of course.
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Of course!
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You obviously missed my reference to the Golgafrinchams in Douglas Adams "restaurant at the end of the universe. You must have stopped reading science fiction by then - even parodies!
"Golgafrincham is a red semi-desert planet that is home of the Great Circling Poets of Arium and a species of particularly inspiring lichen. Its people decided it was time to rid themselves of an entire useless third of their population, and so the descendants of the Circling Poets concocted a story that their planet would shortly be destroyed in a great catastrophe. (It was apparently under threat from a "mutant star goat"). The useless third of the population (consisting of hairdressers, tired TV producers*, insurance salesmen, personnel officers, security guards, management consultants, telephone sanitisers and the like) were packed into the B-Ark, one of three purported giant Ark spaceships, and told that everyone else would follow shortly in the other two. The other two thirds of the population, of course, did not follow and "led full, rich and happy lives until they were all suddenly wiped out by a virulent disease contracted from a dirty telephone".
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>> obviously missed my reference to the Golgafrinchams in Douglas Adams
I did miss it. Adams was a bit after my time reading SF.
Amusing though, that. Proper SF had good jokes (Heinlein could be a bit solemn though, and he wasn't the only one. Some right pretentious carp there was).
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I still have my copy AC (in the archives in the Garage) - Stranger in a Strange Land had a profound effect on me as pup.
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I reread Stranger in a Strange Land a couple of years ago, I was extremely impressed by it originally, bit less so this time.
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It's a recurrent Heinlein theme. I very much enjoyed Tunnel in the Sky when young. The story has kind of stuck with me, but I'm not sure it would bear a re-read now. Group of young people, go through a gatey thing, get stuck on a planet and have to survive...
Edit: just found you can read a goodly chunk of it on amazon.
Last edited by: Crankcase on Sun 11 Aug 13 at 22:03
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If you do make it, Bonzo.......will you post me some genuine Mars bars back. I think the ersatz ones down here are getting rather smaller for yer dosh !
Ted
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I'll do better than that Teddy, I'll send you a Galaxy AND a Milky Way as well.
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This will blow your mind - it does mine! ... our nearest star (apart from the sun) is Proxima Centauri.
Considering just how vast the universe is with its billions of other galaxies, Proxima Centauri is a mere 4.2 light years away from us on planet Earth.
Using present day technologies such as Ion drive propulsion, it would take 81,000 years to get there :(
Using gravitational assists like wot the Voyager 1 probe used, at say 38,000 MPH, it would take just 76,000 years.
And that my friend, is just to our nearest star, which is a red dwarf anyway, with no known orbiting planets likely to support life (as we know it)
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>> And that my friend, is just to our nearest star, which is a red dwarf
>> anyway, with no known orbiting planets likely to support life (as we know it)
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RUBBISH.
I know there is life there. They talk to me frequently.
:-)
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>> And that my friend, is just to our nearest star, which is a red dwarf
>> anyway, with no known orbiting planets likely to support life (as we know it)
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But the population living on the spaceship will have 76,000 years to evolve into beings that will be adapted to the conditions they are going to meet on arrival.
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Nuclear pulse propulsion could do the trip in just 85 years.
"if you were hoping to travel to the nearest star within your lifetime, the outlook isn’t very good. However, if mankind felt the incentive to build an “interstellar ark” filled with a self-sustaining community of space-faring humans, it might be possible to travel there in a little under a century if we developed nuclear pulse technology.
So your descendents may touch down on a planet closely orbiting Proxima Centauri, but unless we make a breakthrough in interstellar travel (and science fiction becomes more like science fact), we’ll be stuck with long-term, pedestrian transits for the foreseeable (and distant) future"…
www.universetoday.com/15403/how-long-would-it-take-to-travel-to-the-nearest-star/
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRp3S8OOeZc
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A new Roadmap to the Mars One Mission with improved detailing is now online. It includes a lot more information on preparatory unmanned missions, in-orbit assembly procedure and what the first crew will do on their arrival on Mars:
www.mars-one.com/en/roadmap2011
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Another sponging migrant.
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Mars is 47 million miles from the European Union, not quite far enough for me, but it'll do for now.
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More spurious precision from the Outie camp.
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I'll bet there's already plans drawn up in Brussels to make it an E.U State! - should it ever be Colonised, likewise the Moon ( unless the Americans have already claimed it as the 52nd state).
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I'm worried that you really might believe.that
Say it ain't so.
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>> I'm worried that you really might believe.that
>> Say it ain't so.
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It's plausible. Europeans have often made territorial claims to unexplored lands of unknown extent, without any regard to the possible existence of indigenous inhabitants.
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You as well!
The world is more paranoid than I thought. - No that not true true - more paranoid than I would wish it to be.
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>> Mars is 47 million miles from the European Union, not quite far enough for me,
>> but it'll do for now.
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S'funny that, the EU said much the same.
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Mars 2023: Inhabitants Wanted - Zero
