We took a video of son performing his GCSE music composition at a school concert a few weeks ago and posted it on youtube for grandparents etc. to view. A colleague of my wife's who used to be 'a top Australian opera singer' suggested 'copyrighting' it to prevent someone else publishing it.
Of course she was probably just saying that to be nice, but what is the position here - does the fact it's on youtube mean it has been published and cannot (legally) be copied, at least not for commercial gain? Or by putting it on youtube have we effectively given up any rights we might have had?
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When you upload your video, you share the "copyright" between you and youtube. People can't just copy it and use it, as they infringe yours, and youtubes copyright.
When you upload you can allow it to be imbedded in other websites, or linked to, but it still remains your, and tubes property.
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>> When you upload you can allow it to be imbedded in other websites, or linked
>> to, but it still remains your, and tubes property.
Thanks Z. Does the fact that copyright is shared with youtube mean that we can't publish (and make money from) it ourselves? Hypothetically speaking - I'm not thinking of giving up the day job :)
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>> Thanks Z. Does the fact that copyright is shared with youtube mean that we can't
>> publish (and make money from) it ourselves? Hypothetically speaking - I'm not thinking of giving
>> up the day job :)
You have to make (and share) money with it through youtube. Youtube can make money from it and not share it with you, unless you officially monitize it through them.
Money is made from add and imbedding. Big money can be made if it goes viral. So if it starts to fly then you sign it up for money - fast. Thinking about doing one of mine, its got 5k hits.
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Ok, thanks.
3 of his electro compositions have got 4k+ hits, but I don't think this one will have the same appeal.
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>>suggested 'copyrighting' it to prevent someone else publishing it.
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>>Or by putting it on youtube have we effectively given up any rights we might have had?
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Forgive my naivety, but why would you want to prevent anyone else publishing it? Always assuming that someone else would wish to of course.
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>> Forgive my naivety, but why would you want to prevent anyone else publishing it? Always
>> assuming that someone else would wish to of course.
We'd only want to prevent someone else publishing it to make money from it for themselves - unlikely of course.
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From 'You tube' T & C's:
We provide information to help copyright holders manage their intellectual property online. If you think that somebody is violating your copyright and want to notify us, you can find information about submitting notices and Google’s policy about responding to notices in our Help Centre.
Your Content in our Services
Some of our Services allow you to submit content. You retain ownership of any intellectual property rights that you hold in that content. In short, what belongs to you stays yours.
When you upload or otherwise submit content to our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide licence to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes that we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content. The rights that you grant in this licence are for the limited purpose of operating, promoting and improving our Services, and to develop new ones. This licence continues even if you stop using our Services.
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It sounds a bit one sided after a brief read. But then again, what do I know about such things?
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>> This licence continues
>> even if you stop using our Services.
It doesn't if you delete it, and then host it elsewhere.
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Thanks chaps.
BTW I've found out a bit more about my wife's colleague:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cDUdmKH9Lc
Now making full use of her talents working in the UK as an office secretary...
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It says that the licence continues even if you stop using the service. If they've copied it, doesn't matter that you've deleted it.
facebook is worse - anything you post on there belongs to them. They can do what they like with it.
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If you delete it, they haven't go it. They can't have copywrite over something they don't have. Its gone.
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If they have already copied it, then it wouldn't matter if you deleted it, presumably. It's 'copyright', not 'writes' - your intellectual rather than physical ownership.
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They havent "copied" it, they have hosted it and linked it. As soon as you (the owner) delete it, its gone. (ok they will have a backup for a while) If you upload it somewhere else with one second cut off it - its new. Youtube dont have the old one, and they have no claim on the new one.
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Ok - so if we wanted to publish (still talking hypothetically) the piece and not share the proceeds with youtube, we'd just have to ensure the arrangement was detectably different to what was performed in the video?
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Yeah, just put a new title on it.
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youtube and 'copyright' - Zero
