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Thread Author: Bellboy	Replies: 25

Tue 16 Mar 10 11:49   copies of fashion items - Bellboy

ive been saying this for months to the wife and she just thought i was a leerer news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/health/newsid_8569000/8569907.stm Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 16 Mar 10 12:02   copies of fashion items - Focusless

"Official UGG boots cost from around £150" From?? "but much cheaper versions are available on the high street and from markets ... The company is urging people to beware of copies. " I bet they are! I'd like to see the doctor analyse the 'real' ones to see whether they are any better. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 16 Mar 10 12:04   copies of fashion items - Vicar of Bray

you should see the knock offs here in the Philippines bb. Fake rolex and working (known locally as china phones) nokia e72's. Anything you want is faked. They are just like the real thing in your hands - unlike a few years back. When you see the china phone e72's at £40 - three hundred pounds cheaper than the real thing you wonder about profit margins. well, i do ;-) Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 16 Mar 10 12:10   copies of fashion items - Vicar of Bray

Incidentally, i,m posting from the phone and it's slowing me too much putting capital letters in mid sentence words. Hope you're all ok with that? Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 16 Mar 10 12:14   copies of fashion items - Focusless

>> Hope you're all ok with that? Harder to differentiate between your and Bellboy's posts, but apart from that, fine :-) Last edited by: Focus on Tue 16 Mar 10 at 12:14 Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 16 Mar 10 12:17   copies of fashion items - L'escargot

>> Hope you're all ok with that? >> Whatever lights your candle. It's your reputation at stake, not ours. ;-) Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 16 Mar 10 12:27   copies of fashion items - Vicar of Bray

thought i might get my knuckles rapped ;-) Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 16 Mar 10 12:23   copies of fashion items - RattleandSmoke

A mobile phone costs many many millions to develop. If you copy of it you have very little R&D money to recoup in the sale price. A Nokia E72 may cost £300 retail but at least £150 of that money has probably been spent on research. Also mobile phones have some very expensive metals in them, the cheap china phones won't have. I would be very surprised if they lasted as long as a proper Nokia. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 16 Mar 10 12:26   copies of fashion items - Focusless

>> A mobile phone costs many many millions to develop. There's also the significant cost of supporting it once it's on sale. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 16 Mar 10 12:30   copies of fashion items - Vicar of Bray

I, of course, have the real thing (snort) Dang, how do you do that snorting thing? Oh, its an e63... Last edited by: oilrag on Tue 16 Mar 10 at 12:32 Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 16 Mar 10 12:31   copies of fashion items - Zero

the system internals will be exactly the same (from the same line that makes the nokia internals) The case, and other bits will be fake knockoffs. No-one pays 300quid for a nokia in cash, is a notional value. Most upgrade on contracts. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 16 Mar 10 12:37   copies of fashion items - Vicar of Bray

wonder if they work in the uk...or would the radiation burn your ear off? Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 16 Mar 10 13:05   copies of fashion items - spamcan61

From my old day job, typical bill of material cost for a fancy smartphone was around 150 - 200 USD, then you've got software licensing, development costs etc. Lots of detail on phone internals on www.phonewreck.com www.phonewreck.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Touch_Pro for example Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 16 Mar 10 14:25   copies of fashion items - FotheringtonTomas

>> mobile phones have some very expensive metals in them the cheap china phones won't >> have. I would be very surprised if they lasted as long as a proper Nokia. You great chump, Nokia telephones made in China are the same as those made elsewhere. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 16 Mar 10 14:32   copies of fashion items - Bellboy

www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/mobile-phones/7377996/The-ultimate-Asian-phone-clones.html Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 16 Mar 10 14:36   copies of fashion items - spamcan61

...but that doesn't mean phones made for Nokia in China to Nokia specification are the same as clones that happen to be made in the same country. Last edited by: spamcan61 on Tue 16 Mar 10 at 14:37 Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 16 Mar 10 14:41   copies of fashion items - Bellboy

interesting article in last saturdays dt www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7375684/Why-Apple-cant-control-its-Chinese-factories.html Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 16 Mar 10 15:00   copies of fashion items - RattleandSmoke

Exactly, my HIFI amp is made in China, it is an extremely high qualility higher model Cambridge Audio (640A). It is made in ISO9002 factory and some of the parts are very good qualility (Elna caps for example). Now do you really expect an ilegal factroy making ilegal clones to build things to the same qualility? The fake Nokias may well use the same firmware, same CPU and other ICs but the parts used to bolt them together won't be the same. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 16 Mar 10 15:15   copies of fashion items - Bellboy

>> Exactly my HIFI amp is made in China it is an extremely high qualility higher >> model Cambridge Audio (640A). It is made in ISO9002 factory and some of the parts >> are very good qualility (Elna caps for example). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>sorry not impressed its only got a Class 'A' follower driver stage,to me this is sticking an extra set of bogies on a train engine and saying its a pacific Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 16 Mar 10 15:43   copies of fashion items - sherlock47

It is made in ISO9002 factory This does not mean it is necessarily good, just that all the factory production will be to the same consistent (crap?) standard! Last edited by: pmh on Tue 16 Mar 10 at 15:43 Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 16 Mar 10 15:57   copies of fashion items - spamcan61

True to a degree, but at least more recent versions of ISO900x include customer feedback, evidence of continuous improvement etc. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 16 Mar 10 16:13   copies of fashion items - Iffy

Back to the boots. They were the ones infamously worn by the young woman who got her foot stuck in a railway level crossing. It made quite a bit of news at the time because it was captured on video. Someone with a greater grasp of YouTube than I might care to post a link - I'm sure it's on there somewhere. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 16 Mar 10 17:42   copies of fashion items - FotheringtonTomas

>> The fake Nokias may well use the same firmware same CPU and >> other ICs but the parts used to bolt them together won't be the same. No. Now you've moved the goalposts by referring to "fake Nokias" instead of the Nokias made in China that you originally meant. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 17 Mar 10 06:27   copies of fashion items - Vicar of Bray

just to clarify , 'china phone' is the local term for the fake and they are advertized as such in (phone) shop windows. I might try to take a pic. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 17 Mar 10 07:02   copies of fashion items - MD

>> You great chump Nokia telephones made in China are the same as those made elsewhere. >> Yes yes yes. FT used the word (Chump) which was MY choice in the alternative PFD competition. I would like to claim Fist prize please. Send my £100.00 wine voucher to................. MD Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 17 Mar 10 10:54   copies of fashion items - Bellboy

we might send you the empty bottles but that will be all ;-) Reply to this message | Report message