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New Sun 25 Feb 24 18:14

It's a boy! - Terry

France will not want them back and would almost certainly refuse them entry - not a solution.

There are sound and decent reasons why some asylum claims should be granted. Others take risks associated with crossing the channel possibly because the UK is seen as an easy touch.

They will continue to arrive in significant numbers until we have policies which needs to be (a) balanced and fair, and (b) deal rapidly and firmly with those claims which do not stand scrutiny.

If fleeing in great fear from their home country, I would expect asylum seekers to seek asylum in the first stable, decent country they enter. EU countries should meet this basic threshold.

Very clear criteria defining the circumstances in which a UK asylum claim will likely be successful are required. No party has had the courage to do so thus far.

Claims should be processed rapidly - say within 3 months. The current average delay is ~2 years with some cases taking far longer. This is wholly within UK control.

Those refused asylum on initial scrutiny should have a basic but limited right of appeal. My impression is that multiple appeals are common on ever more marginal grounds.

Those claims failing after appeal should be deported back to their country of origin within (say) a month.

This is somewhat unsympathetic, but mean asylum claims would rapidly fall to those who can meet the clear criteria set, and deter those who simply see the UK as an easy touch.

Rwanda is a contrived and high cost ineffectual attempt at deterrence - a waste of effort.

Will any of this happen - I don't hold out much hope - so the UK taxpayer will continue to fund high legal and support costs rather than spending the money on the more socially useful.

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It's a boy! new	Ambo	17 Feb 19 12:53
It's a boy! new	No FM2R	17 Feb 19 13:05
It's a boy! new	CGNorwich	17 Feb 19 13:46
It's a boy! new	No FM2R	17 Feb 19 13:58
It's a boy! new	Lygonos	17 Feb 19 14:00
It's a boy! new	Zero	17 Feb 19 17:00
It's a boy! new	Manatee	17 Feb 19 17:19
It's a boy! new	Zero	17 Feb 19 17:31
It's a boy! new	CGNorwich	17 Feb 19 18:36
It's a boy! new	Zero	17 Feb 19 18:42
It's a boy! new	CGNorwich	17 Feb 19 18:50
It's a boy! new	sooty123	17 Feb 19 19:01
It's a boy! new	CGNorwich	17 Feb 19 19:05
It's a boy! new	sooty123	17 Feb 19 19:13
It's a boy! new	Kevin	17 Feb 19 21:02
It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	17 Feb 19 21:25
It's a boy! new	Ambo	18 Feb 19 10:14
It's a boy! new	sooty123	18 Feb 19 10:27
It's a boy! new	Ambo	18 Feb 19 10:38
It's a boy! new	sooty123	18 Feb 19 11:46
It's a boy! new	CGNorwich	18 Feb 19 12:03

It's a boy! new	CGNorwich	18 Feb 19 12:56
It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	18 Feb 19 18:03
It's a boy! new	sooty123	18 Feb 19 20:03
It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	18 Feb 19 22:01
It's a boy! new	sooty123	20 Feb 19 06:36
It's a boy! new	Kevin	19 Feb 19 19:57
It's a boy! new	Zero	19 Feb 19 20:44
It's a boy! new	No FM2R	19 Feb 19 20:55
It's a boy! new	Kevin	19 Feb 19 21:10
It's a boy! new	Kevin	19 Feb 19 21:20
It's a boy! new	No FM2R	19 Feb 19 21:24

It's a boy! new	Zero	18 Feb 19 10:59
It's a boy! new	tyrednemotional	18 Feb 19 11:52

It's a boy! new	Zero	18 Feb 19 11:57

It's a boy! new	Haywain	17 Feb 19 18:02
It's a boy! new	CGNorwich	17 Feb 19 18:39
It's a boy! new	Haywain	17 Feb 19 19:25
It's a boy! new	smokie	21 Feb 19 10:23
It's a boy! new	No FM2R	17 Feb 19 19:39
It's a boy! new	Zero	17 Feb 19 19:49
It's a boy! new	No FM2R	17 Feb 19 19:57
It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	17 Feb 19 20:06
It's a boy! new	sooty123	17 Feb 19 20:09
It's a boy! new	No FM2R	17 Feb 19 20:13
It's a boy! new	No FM2R	17 Feb 19 20:12
It's a boy! new	sooty123	17 Feb 19 20:07
It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	21 Nov 22 14:32
It's a boy! new	Zero	21 Nov 22 15:02
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It's a boy! new	zippy	21 Nov 22 15:26
It's a boy! new	Zero	21 Nov 22 15:30
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It's a boy! new	Zero	21 Nov 22 15:48
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It's a boy! new	Haywain	17 Feb 19 15:46
It's a boy! new	legacylad	17 Feb 19 16:10
It's a boy! new	zippy	17 Feb 19 17:46
It's a boy! new	Zero	17 Feb 19 18:32
It's a boy! new	legacylad	17 Feb 19 19:07
It's a boy! new	No FM2R	17 Feb 19 19:41
It's a boy! new	zippy	17 Feb 19 20:48
It's a boy! new	zippy	17 Feb 19 21:25
It's a boy! new	Lygonos	17 Feb 19 21:28
It's a boy! new	Duncan	17 Feb 19 22:21
It's a boy! new	Manatee	17 Feb 19 22:47
It's a boy! new	Duncan	18 Feb 19 06:30
It's a boy! new	bathtub tom	18 Feb 19 14:45
It's a boy! new	CGNorwich	18 Feb 19 14:52

It's a boy! new	No FM2R	18 Feb 19 15:16
It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	18 Feb 19 17:01
It's a boy! new	CGNorwich	18 Feb 19 17:17

It's a boy! new	Manatee	18 Feb 19 17:55
It's a boy! new	Zero	18 Feb 19 16:18
It's a boy! new	Bobby	18 Feb 19 21:30

It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	18 Feb 19 22:11

It's a boy! new	No FM2R	19 Feb 19 20:31
It's a boy! new	MD	19 Feb 19 21:19
It's a boy! new	Fullchat	19 Feb 19 21:22
It's a boy! new	No FM2R	19 Feb 19 21:30
It's a boy! new	Kevin	19 Feb 19 22:53
It's a boy! new	No FM2R	20 Feb 19 00:40
It's a boy! new	Kevin	20 Feb 19 20:02
It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	21 Feb 19 15:01
It's a boy! new	No FM2R	21 Feb 19 15:05
It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	21 Feb 19 15:14
It's a boy! new	No FM2R	21 Feb 19 15:53
It's a boy! new	No FM2R	21 Feb 19 15:59
It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	21 Feb 19 16:27
It's a boy! new	Kevin	21 Feb 19 22:21
It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	22 Feb 19 12:16
It's a boy! new	Zero	22 Feb 19 12:57
It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	22 Feb 19 13:32

It's a boy! new	Haywain	22 Feb 19 14:17
It's a boy! new	No FM2R	22 Feb 19 15:00
It's a boy! new	sooty123	22 Feb 19 15:24
It's a boy! new	No FM2R	22 Feb 19 15:33
It's a boy! new	Zero	22 Feb 19 15:56
It's a boy! new	No FM2R	22 Feb 19 16:22
It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	22 Feb 19 16:39
It's a boy! new	Zero	22 Feb 19 16:59
It's a boy! new	Kevin	22 Feb 19 22:16
It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	22 Feb 19 22:48
It's a boy! new	Kevin	23 Feb 19 00:00
It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	23 Feb 19 13:55
It's a boy! new	Duncan	23 Feb 19 21:14
It's a boy! new	sooty123	23 Feb 19 21:46
It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	24 Feb 19 09:30
It's a boy! new	CGNorwich	22 Feb 19 23:11
It's a boy! new	sooty123	23 Feb 19 06:31
It's a boy! new	Haywain	22 Feb 19 20:35

It's a boy! new	MD	19 Feb 19 21:45
It's a boy! new	Duncan	20 Feb 19 22:08
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It's a boy! new	VxFan	20 Feb 19 10:03
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It's a boy! new	Zero	20 Feb 19 10:29
It's a boy! new	helicopter	20 Feb 19 13:04
It's a boy! new	Lygonos	20 Feb 19 13:08
It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	20 Feb 19 14:35
It's a boy! new	sooty123	20 Feb 19 15:30
It's a boy! new	No FM2R	20 Feb 19 15:44
It's a boy! new	No FM2R	20 Feb 19 14:29
It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	20 Feb 19 14:38
It's a boy! new	CGNorwich	20 Feb 19 17:37
It's a boy! new	No FM2R	20 Feb 19 17:46
It's a boy! new	sooty123	20 Feb 19 18:54
It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	20 Feb 19 23:29
It's a boy! new	sooty123	21 Feb 19 05:25
It's a boy! new	Zero	21 Feb 19 10:06
It's a boy! new	Haywain	21 Feb 19 10:13
It's a boy! new	Zero	21 Feb 19 15:39
It's a boy! new	Haywain	21 Feb 19 17:03

It's a boy! new	Zero	21 Feb 19 17:04
It's a boy! new	Haywain	21 Feb 19 17:22
It's a boy! new	Zero	21 Feb 19 17:32
It's a boy! new	bathtub tom	21 Feb 19 19:39

It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	21 Feb 19 15:43
It's a boy! new	Zero	21 Feb 19 15:51
It's a boy! new	Ambo	22 Feb 19 19:17

It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	22 Feb 19 19:51
It's a boy! new	Lygonos	22 Feb 19 19:58
It's a boy! new	CGNorwich	22 Feb 19 20:03
It's a boy! new	No FM2R	22 Feb 19 20:33
It's a boy! new	No FM2R	22 Feb 19 20:36
It's a boy! new	Zero	22 Feb 19 20:39
It's a boy! new	No FM2R	22 Feb 19 21:06
It's a boy! new	sooty123	22 Feb 19 21:16
It's a boy! new	Zero	22 Feb 19 20:41
It's a boy! new	No FM2R	22 Feb 19 21:07
It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	18 Aug 19 13:15

Another Take. new	Bromptonaut	22 Feb 19 23:16
Another Take. new	Kevin	23 Feb 19 00:50
Another Take. new	zippy	23 Feb 19 11:38
Another Take. new	Bromptonaut	23 Feb 19 11:56
Another Take. new	sooty123	23 Feb 19 06:27
It's a boy! new	No FM2R	4 Mar 19 09:50
It's a boy! new	Ambo	4 Mar 19 12:07
It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	4 Mar 19 12:50
It's a boy! new	No FM2R	4 Mar 19 12:59
It's a boy! new	sooty123	4 Mar 19 13:36
It's a boy! new	CGNorwich	9 Mar 19 14:20
It's a boy! new	Zero	9 Mar 19 16:17
It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	17 Mar 19 19:50
It's a boy! new	zippy	17 Mar 19 20:41
It's a boy! new	Zero	17 Mar 19 21:18
It's a boy! new	Kevin	17 Mar 19 21:38
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It's a boy! new	No FM2R	23 Nov 20 13:56
It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	24 Nov 20 18:30
It's a boy! new	No FM2R	24 Nov 20 18:40
It's a boy! new	sooty123	24 Nov 20 19:57
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It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	19 Feb 21 16:59
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It's a boy! new	Falkirk Bairn	26 Feb 21 11:51
It's a boy! new	zippy	26 Feb 21 12:05
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It's a boy! new	Zero	26 Feb 21 12:30
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It's a boy! new	smokie	26 Feb 21 15:39
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It's a boy! new	sooty123	22 Feb 23 17:59
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It's a boy! new	Fullchat	22 Feb 23 20:52
It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	22 Feb 23 21:11
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It's a boy! new	sooty123	23 Feb 23 14:27
It's a boy! new	CGNorwich	23 Feb 23 17:12
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It's a boy! new	CGNorwich	24 Feb 23 09:04
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It's a boy! new	Zero	23 Feb 23 13:25
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It's a boy! new	Zero	23 Feb 23 16:33
It's a boy! new	zippy	24 Feb 23 14:00
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It's a boy! new	Biggles	24 Feb 23 18:08
It's a boy! new	zippy	24 Feb 23 18:19
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It's a boy! new	sooty123	23 Feb 24 14:29
It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	23 Feb 24 15:07
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It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	23 Feb 24 16:14
It's a boy! new	sooty123	23 Feb 24 16:18
It's a boy! new	Manatee	23 Feb 24 16:53
It's a boy! new	BiggerBadderDave	23 Feb 24 19:59
It's a boy! new	Terry	23 Feb 24 20:52
It's a boy! new	zippy	23 Feb 24 23:39
It's a boy! new	Terry	24 Feb 24 01:42
It's a boy! new	Biggles	24 Feb 24 07:33
It's a boy! new	sooty123	24 Feb 24 05:45
It's a boy! new	smokie	24 Feb 24 09:26
It's a boy! new	Manatee	24 Feb 24 19:40
It's a boy! new	Biggles	24 Feb 24 20:21

It's a boy! new	Manatee	24 Feb 24 20:55
It's a boy! new	sooty123	24 Feb 24 21:27
It's a boy! new	Zero	24 Feb 24 22:40

It's a boy! new	sooty123	24 Feb 24 20:23
It's a boy! new	Falkirk Bairn	25 Feb 24 11:10

It's a boy! new	sooty123	25 Feb 24 11:24
It's a boy! new	Falkirk Bairn	25 Feb 24 11:30
It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	25 Feb 24 12:39
It's a boy! new	smokie	25 Feb 24 13:00
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It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	25 Feb 24 16:03
It's a boy! new	sooty123	25 Feb 24 16:27
It's a boy! new	Bromptonaut	25 Feb 24 17:16
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