I think it's time to stop debating the subject and just accept that for whatever the reasons, climates seem to be changing and more extreme weather is happening.
Banning plastic bags or eating more nutburgers is not going to reverse the process.
We should just start focussing on living with the consequences - flood defences, agricultural changes, relocating threatened low-lying populations, etc.
We need to look at the international implications if entire nations are drowned, coping with climate change refugees/migrants, economic assistance, etc.
Don't discuss - do something.
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