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New Fri 8 Jan 16 13:30 
 Chuffers - Cliff Pope
>> Reported to have had at least 15 boilers, and I think they've renewed the chassis
>> this time...starting to look like 'my grandad's axe'.... Still, a good effort nonetheless!!
>>

There's always scope for an interesting philosophical debate about the authenticity of "restoration" as applied to different artefacts.

Ancient scroll - you preserve the original fabric regardless of its condition. If that means it cannot actually be used, so be it.

Through to classic car - all parts can be replaced, from chassis upwards, to the point where not a single one is original any more. The only proviso is that it should be done gradually, as part of an ongoing maintenance and repair programme. That preserves its originality, both legally and emotionally. If you simply assembled an entire kit of remanufactured bits from a specialist and then stuck the old number plates on, it would be a replica not an original.

But if you were restoring an old garden by Capability Brown, none of the plants will be original. It is the design that is original, not the material reality.


There is a continuum between all these cases, making any individual example always a bit problematical. No one scraps a veteran car when its originality falls below a magic percentage. Last week it was the original 1908 record breaker. Now it is only a replica because they have had to replace a fan blade.
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