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Thread Author: Westpig Replies: 42

 Appalling journalism - Westpig
>> WP,
>>
>> We're reading this in different ways.
>>
>> My usual practice when trying to understand any controversy arising from a media report is
>> to find the source document whether a court judgement, Hansard or, as here, an official
>> report. In this case it's the HMIC report which I linked yesterday and that's the
>> only account I've used.

So if the HMIC report is flawed and/or has been written by someone with a fundamental lack of understanding of the situation... then your understanding of the issues would also be flawed.


>> The 16yo we're talking about is a single example over less
>> than a page in a long report which identifies other, more serious, failings in the
>> Notts force's child protection arrangements.

I have only ever been talking about this one case. If there are wider failings that need addressing, then so be it.


>>
>> It may be that it's set the police/ex-police bush telegraph alight and that for that
>> or other reasons you have more to go on.

Nope... it's just annoyed me.

I've been that poor sap the custody officer on many, many occasions... sat there with a burning pain in my groin because I needed a 'p' two hours ago, but haven't managed it, because it's just been too damned busy and/or I don't dare leave the ship temporarily to junior staff.
>>
>> My reading is that the force took its eye off the ball and that in
>> some way/ways the safeguards which should have applied to this young woman failed. I base
>> that particularly on use of the phraseology about 'realising' after 44 hours that she'd not
>> eaten or drunk.

As said above, they would 'realise' each and every time she declined food/drink and it's recorded on her custody record. The custody sergeant is in overall charge and the buck stops with him/her... trouble is they can be so damned busy they cannot think straight.

This was therefore not a 'normal' s136 detention, it was one that
>> went wrong.

I'll ask again. What went wrong?

If you accept she shouldn't have been there, but was.. and it'll happen again... and a police officer cannot force someone to eat or drink... and eventually they'll become unwell and an ambulance will be called... which is what happened... what else?
 Messages Author Date
 Appalling journalism  Westpig 11 Feb 15 10:17
 Appalling journalism  madf 11 Feb 15 11:16
 Appalling journalism  Bromptonaut 11 Feb 15 12:21
 Appalling journalism  Westpig 11 Feb 15 14:33
 Appalling journalism  Bromptonaut 11 Feb 15 17:48
 Appalling journalism  Westpig 11 Feb 15 21:54
 Appalling journalism  Bromptonaut 12 Feb 15 10:17
 Appalling journalism  Westpig 12 Feb 15 10:34
 Appalling journalism  Manatee 12 Feb 15 10:57
 Appalling journalism  Westpig 12 Feb 15 12:12
 Appalling journalism  Bromptonaut 12 Feb 15 13:29
 Appalling journalism  Armel Coussine 12 Feb 15 13:51
 Appalling journalism  Westpig 12 Feb 15 17:07
 Appalling journalism  Bromptonaut 12 Feb 15 17:46
 Appalling journalism  No FM2R 12 Feb 15 18:35
  
 Appalling journalism  Westpig 12 Feb 15 20:22
  
 Appalling journalism  Westpig 12 Feb 15 20:10
  
 Appalling journalism  Armel Coussine 12 Feb 15 20:17
 Appalling journalism  sooty123 12 Feb 15 20:22
 Appalling journalism  Bromptonaut 12 Feb 15 20:36
 Appalling journalism  sooty123 12 Feb 15 21:04
  
 Appalling journalism  Manatee 11 Feb 15 12:37
 Appalling journalism  Armel Coussine 11 Feb 15 14:18
 Appalling journalism  Manatee 11 Feb 15 14:33
 Appalling journalism  Westpig 11 Feb 15 14:43
 Appalling journalism  Manatee 11 Feb 15 14:56
 Appalling journalism  Westpig 11 Feb 15 16:25
 Appalling journalism  Westpig 11 Feb 15 16:27
 Appalling journalism  Manatee 11 Feb 15 17:29
 Appalling journalism  madf 11 Feb 15 17:48
 Appalling journalism  Armel Coussine 11 Feb 15 18:03
 Appalling journalism  Bromptonaut 11 Feb 15 17:52
 Appalling journalism  Armel Coussine 11 Feb 15 18:50
 Appalling journalism  Armel Coussine 12 Feb 15 15:05
 Appalling journalism  Runfer D'Hills 12 Feb 15 15:31
 Appalling journalism  Armel Coussine 12 Feb 15 18:00
 Appalling journalism  Westpig 11 Feb 15 22:05
 Appalling journalism  Haywain 11 Feb 15 18:15
 Appalling journalism  Dutchie 11 Feb 15 21:23
 Appalling journalism  Westpig 11 Feb 15 22:01
 Appalling journalism  Roger. 12 Feb 15 20:11
 Appalling journalism  Duncan 13 Feb 15 05:58
 Appalling journalism  Roger. 13 Feb 15 16:09
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