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Thread Author: VxFan Replies: 140

 UKIP Debate - Volume 13 - Westpig
>> Racism is disgusting and disgusts me.
>>
>> Racists are disgusting lowlife bigots who disgust me and ought to be ashamed of themselves.
>>
>> UKIP, intentionally or not, is facilitating racism.
>>
>> Listening to racists, even those who do not believe that they are, and people who
>> suffer from foreign_people_phobia, trying to rationalise and justify their beliefs is an appalling waste of
>> life.

Where do you sit then, for circumstances where differentiating people by race is needed or desired.. for example, where certain people's from certain races commit certain crimes ..and the rest of us wish to discuss that or the deal with it.

The police use an 'Identity Code' system (it used to be called a 'Race Code' or RC)...

The IC codes are:

IC1 – White person, northern European/northern America type
IC2 – Mediterranean European/Hispanic
IC3 – African/Afro-Caribbean person
IC4 – Indian, Pakistani, Nepalese, Maldivian, Sri Lankan, Bangladeshi, or any other (South) Asian person
IC5 – Chinese, Japanese, or South-East Asian person
IC6 – Middle Eastern, Arabic or Maghreb person
IC0, IC7 or IC9 – Origin unknown

Furthermore, if I lived in certain areas of South London, I'd be moaning about the crime statistics with regards to street robberies (muggings) and other crimes ...and an enormous chunk of the perpetrators of those crimes, according to the victims, are young black men.

Would I be racist to mention the above in conversation? Would it be racist to circulate the description of a suspect defined by his race? Would it be racist to bemoan the way that community had evolved when you include the above observations? ...(hence my previous post about dictionary definitions and the difference between a rational or irrational take on race).

I will add the proviso of course that the vast majority of people's who'd be called 'black' do not commit crime and there's various sub elements to such racial profiling that utterly confuses things, such as the differences between Africans and Caribbeans or the differences between all the African backgrounds... however, barring people from raising a subject for fear of being labelled racist only perpetuates the problem, because the annoyance about the issue remains.. and on the merry go round continues, getting us all absolutely nowhere.
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