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Thread Author: Style_less	Replies: 33

Mon 10 Jan 11 17:32   Damaged Artex Ceiling - Style_less

I own a property which is let out. The most recent tenants have just left so the property is empty and I’m looking to re-let it. During the pre Christmas cold snap there was a burst in the loft which has resulted in water damage to the upstairs hall ceiling and I’m looking for some advice on how to proceed with it. There is quiet a lot of severe discoloration and the textured coating has pealed back in places, which is my major issue otherwise I’d be looking for a good clean and a paint over. The house was built in 1965 and originally sold on a leasehold basis as part of a small infill development. The freehold was acquired before I bought it in 2000. All the ceilings are Artexed, with quiet a fine pattern rather than the classic swirl. I have no idea when it was done but it may have been at the time of construction. I don’t want to get into major expense or open too many cans of worms especially with the dread asbestos, but do have landlords insurance to fall back on. Reply to this message | Report message

Mon 10 Jan 11 17:38   Damaged Artex Ceiling - Zero

ooooooo Artex. Nasty. Now you have the ideal chance to get rid of it. Its gonna be tough to repatch artex to the same pattern. Thankfully Reply to this message | Report message

Mon 10 Jan 11 17:44   Damaged Artex Ceiling - FotheringtonTomas

Fill the gaps and paper with coarse "woodchip" paper. Paint. Get someone to skim it with plaster. Paint. I might prefer the second option, but the first would be cheaper. Reply to this message | Report message

Mon 10 Jan 11 18:06   Damaged Artex Ceiling - MD

Asbestos in artex pre '84 Reply to this message | Report message       1

Mon 10 Jan 11 18:14   Damaged Artex Ceiling - Mapmaker

Take hold of your wallpaper steamer, and steam it off. Then paper and repaint. Ignore the asbestos warnings, it will be the essentially benign white asbestos if it's there at all. A single exposure will make not one iota's difference to your long-term health. It's unclear whether multiple exposures make any real difference. Reply to this message | Report message

Mon 10 Jan 11 18:47   Damaged Artex Ceiling - FotheringtonTomas

>> Ignore the asbestos warnings, it will be the essentially benign white asbestos I wouldn't say "essentially benign", I'd say "low risk". Reply to this message | Report message

Mon 10 Jan 11 19:41   Damaged Artex Ceiling - Dulwich Estate

Skim over it with plaster. Artex is now naff and whenever my company used to do building repairs for insurance companies invariably the home owner asked for his artex ceiling not to be reinstated but skimmed over. Good for me as it was cheaper. Reply to this message | Report message

Mon 10 Jan 11 20:13   Damaged Artex Ceiling - bathtub tom

Brother-in-law fixed plaster board directly over his and got a plasterer in to skim it. Reply to this message | Report message

Mon 10 Jan 11 22:11   Damaged Artex Ceiling - Ted

Son in Law got rid of all ours by boarding them out and skimming. He just skimmed the lounge, after a coating with PVA, 'cos the plasterboard would have ruined the effect of the cornice. Nice job....virtually the whole house plastered smooth now and painted. No more papering....great ! Ted Reply to this message | Report message

Mon 10 Jan 11 22:39   Damaged Artex Ceiling - MD

But sometimes the PVA 'let's go'. Reply to this message | Report message

Mon 10 Jan 11 23:49   Damaged Artex Ceiling - Ted

Sometimes the plaster lets go as well, Martin. I was lying in bed when the ceiling came down, just missing me....and more importantly just missing the printer ! It was just like Digestive biscuits. didn't taste it though. Turned out the artex was painted with an oil based paint. Boarded and skimmed after that Ted Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 11 Jan 11 08:51   Damaged Artex Ceiling - Clk Sec

>> Son in Law got rid of all ours by boarding them out and skimming. He >> just skimmed the lounge, after a coating with PVA, 'cos the plasterboard would have ruined >> the effect of the cornice. Ted Why was it necessary to board the other ceilings, if skimming (but not boarding) the lounge ceiling was satisfactory? Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 11 Jan 11 12:15   Damaged Artex Ceiling - Mapmaker

>>No more papering....great ! Plaster should always be papered. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 11 Jan 11 12:24   Damaged Artex Ceiling - Bigtee

Just had the same problem last year with my grans house a semi, a leaking pipe and part of the ceiling dropped down about 3ft long by 2ft, plasterer replaced it skimmed over and artex swirls for just short of £300.00 which i didn't think was too bad. I painted it over when dry looks v nice. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 12 Jan 11 18:01   Damaged Artex Ceiling - MD

>> >>No more papering....great ! >> >> >> Plaster should always be papered. >> Not ours. Smooth as a Baby's Bum! Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 13 Jan 11 10:25   Damaged Artex Ceiling - Mapmaker

>> >> Plaster should always be papered. >> >> >> Not ours. Smooth as a Baby's Bum! And? Why would you want bare plaster on your walls? It's not 17th century peasant accommodation! Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 13 Jan 11 10:29   Damaged Artex Ceiling - R.P.

If fairness Mapmaker - depends on the plaster. The house I now live in was built in 1996 - all the rooms apart from the lounge and the landing/hallway are plaster walled - it's obviously done to a high standard as you'd struggle to find a crack anywhere on the plaster, the finish is good to excellent. Covings hide a multitude of sins ! Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 11 Jan 11 21:16   Damaged Artex Ceiling - Boxsterboy

>> Whenever my company used to do building repairs for insurance >> companies invariably the home owner asked for his artex ceiling not to be reinstated but >> skimmed over. Good for me as it was cheaper. >> I'm sure it was cheaper for you. But did you let on to the insurance company? :-) Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 11 Jan 11 12:30   Damaged Artex Ceiling - Alanovich

>> Get someone to skim it with plaster. Paint. >> Another vote for this option. Did it to our lounge when we moved in last year for aesthetic reasons. Worked a treat. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 11 Jan 11 12:45   Damaged Artex Ceiling - Iffy

...Get someone to skim it with plaster. Paint... A professionally plastered ceiling, particularly in a large room, really looks the business. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 11 Jan 11 12:51   Damaged Artex Ceiling - R.P.

Either that or papered with lining paper - hides a lot that ! Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 11 Jan 11 12:57   Damaged Artex Ceiling - Zero

>> ...Get someone to skim it with plaster. Paint... >> >> A professionally plastered ceiling, particularly in a large room, really looks the business. Until the first crack appears..... Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 11 Jan 11 14:22   Damaged Artex Ceiling - smokie

Quick hijack - daughter wants styrene tiles removed from kitchen ceiling pronto (new house to her). Are they likely to come off and leave the ceiling paintable (i.e. no gummy remnants)? Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 11 Jan 11 14:25   Damaged Artex Ceiling - R.P.

Depends on how they were fixed ! Take one off first for a look. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 11 Jan 11 14:32   Removing polystyrene ceiling tiles. - FotheringtonTomas

>> Are they likely to come off and leave the ceiling paintable (i.e. no gummy >> remnants)? They will be polystyrene - styrene (C6H5CH=CH2) is a liquid. They *should* be glued on "all over" - but if you're lucky, they will be "dabbed" on with four or five dabs of adhesive, or - joy! - glued onto lining paper. Whichever, scrape off as much as you can, and steam off/blowtorch if practical the glue off. A filling knife will be useful, the blade should not be too flexible, though (you could "sharpen" a stripping knife). Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 11 Jan 11 14:32   Damaged Artex Ceiling - crocks

Usual glue used will be solid. Can be taken off dry with a scraper or softened first with a heat gun. There will be no gummy remnants but will take off any paint under the glue and so additional sanding/scraping/filling may be required Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 11 Jan 11 21:23   Damaged Artex Ceiling - Boxsterboy

>> daughter wants styrene tiles removed from kitchen ceiling pronto. Are they likely to come off and leave the ceiling paintable (i.e. no gummy >> remnants)? >> Regardless of any mess they leave, they should come off as they are a fire risk. Especially in a kitchen. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 11 Jan 11 22:07   Damaged Artex Ceiling - Ted

They float down like burning snowdlakes and stick to your skin...continuing to burn. Not advisable in any property ! Ted Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 11 Jan 11 23:10   Damaged Artex Ceiling - smokie

Maybe I'll use a flamethrower to get them off then LOL Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 12 Jan 11 18:04   Damaged Artex Ceiling - MD

IIRC when alight they give off a Cyanide gas. Certainly nasty, but I am not a Chemist. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 12 Jan 11 18:08   Damaged Artex Ceiling - FotheringtonTomas

>> They float down like burning snowdlakes and stick to your skin...continuing to burn. That's if they're not secured properly - if they are secured properly, they're less of a hazard (fumes still hazardous - but so are fumes from your burning plastic carpet, plastic-stuffed couch, plastic picture frames, plastic window frames, plastic curtains, plastic electronic equipment, plastic paint on walls and woodwork, etc.). Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 12 Jan 11 18:26   Damaged Artex Ceiling - MD

How much Crap does a Plastic Politician give off? Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 12 Jan 11 18:38   Damaged Artex Ceiling - FotheringtonTomas

Not enough, but they haven't been to the BSI to be evaluated. Ooh, BS. They give out loads of that. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 12 Jan 11 18:33   Damaged Artex Ceiling - Style_less

Thanks for the helpfull suggestions Ill look for quotes for skimming and painting it Reply to this message | Report message