Motoring Discussion > Six Weeks With a Superb Miscellaneous
Thread Author: Bromptonaut Replies: 21

 Six Weeks With a Superb - Bromptonaut
We’ve now had the Superb for 6 weeks so it seemed a reasonable time give an appreciation of how it’s done so far.

Its diesel, manual and 2 litres. SE trim.

The first impression is how bloomin enormous it is. Width ways it’s much the same as the ‘lingo but it’s a good half metre longer. It overhangs some supermarket bays and even where the bay is long enough it needs care to ensure one end or the other isn’t in other people’s way. It’s also easy to clip the n/s rear tyre being too close to the inside on sum roads; take a bow Grosvenor Centre Car Park in Northampton!! Trim too low for it to be able to park itself like my Daughter’s in laws Passat.

Instruments are a ‘virtual cockpit’ set up with several options. I’m sticking to relatively conventional round dials with revs on the left and speed to the right. Speed is repeated digitally. It has a nag function which seems designed to offend my sensibility about letting engines labour. In practice I suspect with an automated digital engine control labouring isn’t really a thing but having it tell me I should be in sixth at not much more than 40mph doesn’t feel right!!

On the road it handles pretty well. Not as surefooted as the Xantia was was but that had incredibly sporty handling for a medium/large estate car. It’s got 150PS under the bonnet and torque to match. First car I’ve owned where it’s relatively easy to spin the front wheels on a dry road. Performance off the line is well north of adequate. It was three or four driving modes which I’ve not yet fully explored, but even in economy it’s amply quick.

First car I’ve owned without a conventional parking brake which is complete with a ‘hold’ facility. While you forget about it and just drive the car it’s fine. Start thinking about it and it can be confusing. The hold thing needs you to be on the brake pedal as the car comes to a halt. Taken a while to get the art of getting it to set without my/my passengers’ heads bobbling avoiding which is a bit of smooth driving I pride myself on. Think I’ve got it now.

Auto lights and, it seems, auto wipers too. Not sure I’m 100% with either. It nags me if I go somewhere where I probably should have lights on but don’t. Probably a dipping mirror too but I’ve not used it much at night yet. Headlamps are pretty good, much better than either the ‘lingo or the Fabia.

Radio etc system is brilliant except that for some reason it refuses to hang onto Times Radio around my locale - the Fabia clung to it like a limpet. Android Auto connects over Bluetooth rather than needing USB like the Fabia and provides all the Navigation needed. Phone itself integrates seamlessly as you’d expect and pairs with either my phone or hers.

Heating and Ventilation are controlled by a mix of buttons for airflow direction and rotary dials for temperature with the option for different temperatures for driver and front seat passenger. Just leave it on automatic and it performs well and in near silence.

It has cruise control, another first for me as the Fabia only had a limiter. It functions brilliantly with me just tweaking the speed up and down with buttons on the end of the indicator switch.

Economy for a car with a kerbweight around 1600kg is incredible. Well over 40 to the gallon around town and over 50 on the open road unless I’m caning it.

First proper outing was for a family weekend at Center Parcs Sherwood. Swallowed everything with ease. Bromptons sit a tad higher relative the tonneau cover for the boot than they did with the ‘lingo’s parcel shelf but it’s easy enough to remove the cover. It was always removed from the car when travelling long distance/loaded in every estate car we’ve owned. There’s a large blanket somewhere in the house that will cover stuff as it did in the Xantia and ‘lingo #1. Brilliant on the road per the account above re autothrottle etc.

We finally got a towbar fitted on Monday after some procrastination about make of bar and fitter. The guys where we store the ‘van suggested a local agent for Towbars UK. He did an excellent job. Bumper had to come off and the wiring, proper kit dedicated to the Superb, needed quite a bit of interior dismantling. It was then coded to the car.

Did a quick run up the M1 to J18 and back down the A5 with the 'van. All entirely without drama except for some bumping noises under stop start conditions – the ‘lingo does that sometimes as well. It’s much less prone to follow the crudely suspended Xplore’s every jiggle on local roads.

One issue we have is that the tow ball is considerably higher than on the ‘lingo – where it’s almost implausibly low. The 'vans mud flaps contacted the ground on a couple of horse/cart era bridges over the Grand Union as we returned it to store.

Will probably be better if the car’s loaded at the rear and, as we’re no longer on a knife edge with nose weight, I can add a second gas cylinder and one or two other bits and bobs in the nose compartment too. If push comes to shove the van’s only got mudflaps because it was some sort of special edition so they can come off.

When Garry, owner of the storage yard and sales/repair place where we keep the van saw us with a new and mahoosive car he asked if we were putting the ‘van in the boot!!

Since ‘lingo #2 in 2013 all our cars have had names. Superb now has our own 1951 vintage personal plate on but the reg it came with had the prefix EJ. I worked with a gentleman with those initials early in my Civil Service career who was known as Emlyn. He had a distinguished war record and one or two other claims to fame and I quite like that as a name. Mrs B wants a Scots Gaelic theme and suggests the alliterative Seoras, the Gaelic form of George.

At the moment we’re disagreeing but I expect I’ll be rolled over in the end!!
 Six Weeks With a Superb - Bromptonaut
First minor glitch.

Driving to Liverpool yesterday for family gathering it put up a warning for an EPC (engine electronics) issue. On the M6 at the time and using cruise control.

Seemed to go into a reduced power 'limp' type mode and Cruise Control pilot light turned from green to amber, added an exclamation mark and disengaged.

After we ground to a halt in a jam I stopped and restarted the engine and everything was back to normal.

Will speak to the supplying dealer on Monday and see what they advise.
 Six Weeks With a Superb - Zero
You need a code read.
 Six Weeks With a Superb - tyrednemotional
...well, given the accumulated evidence, I think he probably does, but in the first instance, doing it to the car is possibly better. ;-)
 Six Weeks With a Superb - Alanovich
I wonder if this is related to emissions control gubbins, given that your car is a diesel.

Fear of that was one of the many reasons why I chose a petrol Superb. It's giving me a reliable 50-60mpg on the motorway, which is fine for me.

The DSG in mine is brilliant, and does not exhibit the old hesitation which plagued earlier incarnations of the box, and which prompted me to get rid of a DSG equipped Touran all those years ago.

If you weren't aware, I went for a hatch as the boot is so huge that it renders (for me) the estate version unnecessary.

I see yours is an SE spec. So is mine (2022 72 plate, bought on 7k miles, Approved Used, now on 12k). I kind of wish I'd waited for an SE Tech, as mine is missing radar adaptive cruise. I had thought it wouldn't bother me, but now I've experienced this system in my new Leaf, I really wish my main motorway car had it too. I might well ask the dealer if it's retrofittable.

I'm not so impressed as you with the infotainment. There is no inbuilt satnav on my SE, so I use Android Auto and Google Maps. This is fine when connected by bluetooth, but annoyingly, when I plug a USB cable in (in order to keep the device charged on a long drive), bumps in the road surface cause it to disconnect. And, of course, the First Law of Sod being what it is, it's always at a juncture where I want to be referring to the screen.

I also hate the virtual cockpit changing my chosen display (centre speedo) to the rudimentary satnav arrows display every time I start Google Maps navigation. I want it to stay with my chosen display at all times, but can't find anywhere in the menu to tell it this. Very, very annoying.
 Six Weeks With a Superb - zippy
>> but annoyingly, when I plug a USB cable in (in order to keep
>> the device charged on a long drive), bumps in the road surface cause it to
>> disconnect.

If your car has a cigar lighter socket an old fashioned cigar lighter to usb adapter can keep the phone charged and not connected via USB.

I prefer this method as it's a faster charge and doesn't connect iTunes or Google CarPlay via USB.

 Six Weeks With a Superb - Alanovich
That's a good point, zippy. Thanks. I do still have a couple of those old style adapters.
 Six Weeks With a Superb - Bromptonaut
We used them all the time in the 'lingo which had no USB sockets as well as the Fabia which only had one.

Can you still buy them easily?
 Six Weeks With a Superb - Robin O'Reliant
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>>
>> Can you still buy them easily?
>>

Loads available -

www.amazon.co.uk/AINOPE-Charger-Adapter-Smallest-Cigarette-Black/dp/B0B1JCPXQC
Last edited by: VxFan on Mon 14 Apr 25 at 11:09
 Six Weeks With a Superb - Alanovich
Annoyingly, my Superb appears to be the type of car in which the 12v outlets remain live once the car is switched off, meaning you've got to take these things out of the socket every time.

Why do car makers do this? It's daft.
 Six Weeks With a Superb - Bromptonaut
>> Why do car makers do this? It's daft.

It is and it isn't. Berlingo #1 did that and it was damn useful camping for charging laptops and other stuff while in the tent. We never had an electric hookup until the caravan.

Never caused an issue and I'm reasonably confident it would have switched them off before compromising the car's electrics or ability to start.
 Six Weeks With a Superb - Rudedog
In my GTI I use one that I don't pull out but then it's a very basic one with no LEDs so I guess it only draws power when something is plugged into it.

 Six Weeks With a Superb - tyrednemotional
>> Annoyingly, my Superb appears to be the type of car in which the 12v outlets
>> remain live once the car is switched off, meaning you've got to take these things
>> out of the socket every time.
>>

Just check that it doesn't have a delayed switch-off (some cars most certainly do).

After the car's been left off for a while, climb in through the passenger door, insert the adapter, and see if it's still live.
 Six Weeks With a Superb - zippy
>> Just check that it doesn't have a delayed switch-off (some cars most certainly do).
>>
>> After the car's been left off for a while, climb in through the passenger door,
>> insert the adapter, and see if it's still live.
>>
>>

Imagines:

Man leaves passenger car window open to achieve this goal.

Man leans through window cant quite reach the socket.

Goes further and further to reach the socket.

Gets stuck.

Fire Engine called to pull him out

:-D
 Six Weeks With a Superb - Robin O'Reliant
>>

>>
>> Imagines:
>>
>> Man leaves passenger car window open to achieve this goal.
>>
>> Man leans through window cant quite reach the socket.
>>
>> Goes further and further to reach the socket.
>>
>> Gets stuck.
>>
>> Fire Engine called to pull him out
>>
>> :-D
>>

Firefighters cut the roof off to free him :-)
 Six Weeks With a Superb - Zero

>> Just check that it doesn't have a delayed switch-off (some cars most certainly do).

Yup, the beemer shuts off accesories 10 minutes after locking.
 Six Weeks With a Superb - Bobby
What’s the issue? It’s it to charge a phone and there is no phone left in the car charging then surely it won’t drain the battery?
 Six Weeks With a Superb - zippy
>> What’s the issue? It’s it to charge a phone and there is no phone left
>> in the car charging then surely it won’t drain the battery?
>>

Some of the fancier chargers have a small current draw even if they are not charging anything - for example to power its LEDs - the draw on these is likely to be tiny but could in exception circs, drain the battery, if the car doesn't sense the drain and turn the socket off.
 Six Weeks With a Superb - Alanovich
Yes, this. My car is often parked up unused for weeks at a time. I don't want ANYTHING draining the battery unnecessarily.

Issue is teenagers using the back seats, plugging one of these things into the 12v socket in the back (there isn't a USB outlet in the back) and all of us forgetting to pull it out when we get out.
 Six Weeks With a Superb - Alanovich
I just done a little eggspemirent. I plugged one of my USB 12v adapters, which has a visible LED when powered, into the rear seat outlet, then got out and locked the car. Looking through the window, the LED is still on so power is being drawn. I left the car 20 minutes, to see if it goes to "sleep" or something and turns off power to the 12v outlet. No, it doesn't. The LED was still on after 20 minutes.

I suppose Skoda's calculation is that more people want these thing perma-live than not. Of course I'm a 'not' person, so boo hiss Skoda.
 Six Weeks With a Superb - bathtub tom
LEDs draw 10 to 30 mA. Assuming an average of 20mA, that's roughly 500mA/24hours, one Ah every two days. Assuming you've a 60Ah battery, the car would have to be unused for 60 days for the battery to be half discharged, that's eight and a half weeks, two months.
Do you think you need to worry?
 Six Weeks With a Superb - Alanovich
Depends how health your battery is at any given time I suppose.

I'd rather not chance it.
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