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Thread Author: Robin O'Reliant	Replies: 68

Wed 13 Mar 13 19:12   New Pope Elected... - Robin O'Reliant

...and Zero hasn't been around here for a few days? Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 13 Mar 13 19:18   New Pope Elected... - CGNorwich

Did he disappear in a puff of white smoke? Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 13 Mar 13 19:25   New Pope Elected... - Meldrew

Commentators describe him as a quiet modest man with a simple low key lifestyle; aditionally he is the first Jesuit Pope but that is a theological aspect of whose signifigance I am not aware Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 13 Mar 13 19:33   New Pope Elected... - Robin O'Reliant

A bloomin' Argie! Would you credit it. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 13 Mar 13 19:35   New Pope Elected... - Stuu

First international visit - Falklands perhaps? Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 13 Mar 13 19:42   New Pope Elected... - No FM2R

>> A bloomin' Argie! About time, about 48% of the world's Catholics are in Latin America. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 13 Mar 13 19:34   New Pope Elected... - Haywain

It's just like a Monty Python sketch. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 13 Mar 13 20:43   New Pope Elected... - Londoner

>> It's just like a Monty Python sketch. >> More like "Are you being served". At 76, the new pope is more reminiscent of Young Mr Grace. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 13 Mar 13 20:08   New Pope Elected... - Kevin

>Commentators describe him as a quiet modest man with a simple low key lifestyle.. Who?... Zero??? Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 13 Mar 13 20:16   New Pope Elected... - Armel Coussine

Have I missed something? Is Pope Francis of Argentinian origin? I thought he was Brazilian. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 13 Mar 13 20:19   New Pope Elected... - Robin O'Reliant

>> Have I missed something? Is Pope Francis of Argentinian origin? I thought he was Brazilian. >> >> That would be nuts. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 13 Mar 13 20:51   New Pope Elected... - Stuu

>>Have I missed something? Is Pope Francis of Argentinian origin? I thought he was Brazilian << He was born in Buenos Aires. Geography not your strong point? :-) Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 13 Mar 13 20:58   New Pope Elected... - Armel Coussine

>> He was born in Buenos Aires. Geography not your strong point? :-) I didn't know that. I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for him to mention the Falklands if I were you. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 13 Mar 13 21:38   New Pope Elected... - Stuu

>>I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for him to mention the Falklands if I were you. << Wasnt going to. I wont be waiting for him to say anything, im not Catholic. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 13 Mar 13 21:01   New Pope Elected... - BiggerBadderDave

"I thought he was Brazilian." The wife has a Brazilian. Her sister has a landing strip. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 13 Mar 13 21:10   New Pope Elected... - Kevin

Hey BBD, here's one for you. Just run-in. www.sovereigncarsales.co.uk/Prestige_Gridpos6.aspx Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 13 Mar 13 21:12   New Pope Elected... - Runfer D'Hills

Well, at least the new guy should have no difficulty with being frank when necessary... Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 13 Mar 13 21:36   New Pope Elected... - Dutchie

Argetinian born,Italian parents speaks aso fluent German he studied there. Jesuits used to be run by the so called blackpope.He lived a simple livestyle, what is about to change I suppose.He is also a Jesuit. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 13 Mar 13 21:38   New Pope Elected... - BiggerBadderDave

Kevin! Funnily enough, a client came round for a meeting at our house. He was early and I was snow-shovelling and I saw him park it next to the Lexus. It was a 2007 XJ, a 2.7 diesel and of course the conversation went straight to Jags. I told him I was a Jag-lover and he just handed the keys to me. I drove around for about twenty minutes as he chatted about the 5 or 6 XJs he'd had over the two decades. Shame about the damned snow though, I couldn't have a good, proper drive-test, but I felt back at home. But the XJR is a real cracker and fantastic rear entertainment... Tempting isn't it? Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 13 Mar 13 22:35   New Pope Elected... - Roger.

>> "I thought he was Brazilian." >> >> The wife has a Brazilian. Her sister has a landing strip. Lucky you! Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 16 Mar 13 14:22   New Pope Elected... - Zero

>> >Commentators describe him as a quiet modest man with a simple low key lifestyle.. >> >> Who?... Zero??? I am, like the new pope, a simple shepherd Fortunately, where I am the pope does not feature heavily in the news. Got to go, the faithful are being called to prayers. Allah akbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 13 Mar 13 22:45   New Pope Elected... - Dog

www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaWlfsqWEoM ^_^ Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 13 Mar 13 23:02   New Pope Elected... - Harleyman

Apparently Argentina has just laid claim to owning Vatican City owing to there now being Argentinian nationals resident there. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 13 Mar 13 23:10   New Pope Elected... - Alastairw

Nice to see they have gone with the youth policy. Do we think he will last longer than Benedict? Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 13 Mar 13 23:39   New Pope Elected... - R.P.

Has conservative views about abortion, gays and contraception. That's fine then. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 13 Mar 13 23:42   New Pope Elected... - DP

tinyurl.com/bsuhhxx :-) Reply to this message | Report message       1

Thu 14 Mar 13 05:25   New Pope Elected... - legacylad

Can you believe it...spent one hour driving back from my local ski resort near Tahoe today and the entire 60 minutes on NPR (National Public Radio)was on this topic. Interviewing folks, religious clergy etc etc who had waited hours in the rain for white smoke. Not a single ZZ Top or Lynard Skynard song to be heard. My CA friends are very liberal and their thoughts on contraception, abortion, going to church instead of rafting on Sunday, would not go down well with the new bloke in charge. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 14 Mar 13 16:31   New Pope Elected... - Robin O'Reliant

>> Has conservative views about abortion, gays and contraception. That's fine then. >> "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss". Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 14 Mar 13 09:21   New Pope Elected... - madf

>> Nice to see they have gone with the youth policy. Do we think he will >> last longer than Benedict? >> Matter of policy. After John Paul who lasted 1978 to 2005 the cardinals decided they want a Pope who becomes senile/incapable quickly so he can achieve nothing. means they will always be in demand. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 14 Mar 13 10:41   New Pope Elected... - BiggerBadderDave

"After John Paul who lasted 1978 to 2005 the cardinals decided they want..." George Ringo? Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 14 Mar 13 12:13   New Pope Elected... - Dutchie

This Pope looks a tough cookie.The Catholic church needs somebody like him the German pope was to soft.You can take the mikey but there are plenty of followers who will listen to him. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 14 Mar 13 12:16   New Pope Elected... - Roger.

Why not a female pope (popess?) in these enlightened days? Oh, hang on - it's a men-only club, just like the religion of peace. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 14 Mar 13 12:36   New Pope Elected... - madf

>> This Pope looks a tough cookie.The Catholic church needs somebody like him the German pope >> was to soft.You can take the mikey but there are plenty of followers who will >> listen to him. >> I suspect the tough nuts (in the Catholic hierachy) will try to wear him down - as they did with the last Pope. If he does not make significant changes in his first 2-3 years, he'll be too tired /old to make any when he's in his 80s. That in my view was why he was selected.. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 14 Mar 13 13:26   New Pope Elected... - TheManWithNoName

Oh dear. So 1.2 billion people are going to be following a 'new' old bloke in a dress. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 14 Mar 13 14:35   New Pope Elected... - Cliff Pope

>If he does not make significant changes >> in his first 2-3 years, he'll be too tired /old to make any when he's >> in his 80s. >> >> That in my view was why he was selected.. >> Curiously reminiscent of the last years of the USSR, and the selection of Mr Nextonetodropoff . Reply to this message | Report message       1

Thu 14 Mar 13 13:28   New Pope Elected... - Alanovich

Pope, schmope. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 14 Mar 13 14:09   New Pope Elected... - DP

From the BBC website: "The new Pope is a theological conservative and those looking for a change in the Church's stance on abortion, same-sex marriage, and contraception will be disappointed. He is staunchly orthodox on issues of sexual morality." Oh dear. That is all. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 14 Mar 13 15:08   New Pope Elected... - BobbyG

Up until Benedict, no recent Pope had resigned. So any appointment is basically going to be with you till death. It therefore makes sense to appoint someone oldish that has maybe got a bit of life in them but I don't think in any walk of life, someone would be appointed to be the top boss for a life contract! JP2 was young, non Italian and a good Pope in the eyes of catholics. But he got very old, think suffered badly from Parkinsons and latterly could not in effect do his job. A lot of his good work was undone in his latter years. I think with Benedict resigning then hopefully this will also encourage future Popes to bow out gracefully when they think their time has come. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 14 Mar 13 15:31   New Pope Elected... - Cliff Pope

>> but I don't think in any walk of life, someone would be >> appointed to be the top boss for a life contract! >> "Reigning monarch" would be the nearest job equivalent. The industry is now an equal opportunities employer, and like B&Q values the input from older workers. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 14 Mar 13 15:34   New Pope Elected... - Alanovich

It's coming to something when the Catholic Church is one step ahead of the British Monarchy in terms of modernity. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 14 Mar 13 16:12   New Pope Elected... - madf

There is one difference between the Pope and the Queen. The Queen is a titular monarch. What she says or thinks is largely irrelevant. The Pope is the ABSOLUTE Head of the Church. What he says goes. Period. No discussion. That is it. He is INFALLIBLE. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 14 Mar 13 16:16   New Pope Elected... - Haywain

"The Queen is a titular monarch" Is that because she's a woman? Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 14 Mar 13 17:21   New Pope Elected... - Armel Coussine

The new Pope is a Jesuit, the first Jesuit to become Pope. The Jesuits used to pride themselves on being God's flying squad or SAS. So in keeping with the vulgar frivolity of many of the posts here, I would say that while previous popes have been something like constitutional monarchs (with the extra advantage of infallibility), this one is really more like a military dictator. I believe the old brute used the expression 'God's plan' yesterday or so, just like a crazed idiot of an American born-again or evangelical Baptist. Worrying, that. Reply to this message | Report message       1

Thu 14 Mar 13 17:32   New Pope Elected... - Mapmaker

>>What he says goes. Period. No discussion. That is it. He is INFALLIBLE. Common misconception. He is only infallible when he is speaking infallibly. The rest of the time he is as faillible as the rest of us. Popes make infallible statements about once per century. (There's infallible and infallible, and I don't profess to be an expert, and I think the idea that he can be infallible is somewhat silly. But I don't think we can really hold it against him thus.) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_infallibility#Instances_of_infallible_declarations Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 14 Mar 13 18:02   New Pope Elected... - CGNorwich

What he says goes. Period. No discussion. That is it. He is INFALLIBLE. Wot, like Zero? :-) Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 14 Mar 13 18:41   New Pope Elected... - Armel Coussine

>> like Zero? :-) If the inability to admit one is wrong is a sign of infallibility, then quite a lot of mediocre politicians are infallible. Like Zero. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 14 Mar 13 20:36   New Pope Elected... - Armel Coussine

I feel a bit mean to be badmouthing Zero in his absence. I hope he's enjoying Marrakesh with his missus. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 14 Mar 13 20:59   New Pope Elected... - Londoner

>> I feel a bit mean to be badmouthing Zero in his absence. >> >> I hope he's enjoying Marrakesh with his missus. >> Maybe he's gone to photograph the Marrakesh Express. If you ask him nicely he may post a few stills. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 14 Mar 13 21:15   New Pope Elected... - Armel Coussine

>> Maybe he's gone to photograph the Marrakesh Express That isn't what I'd be doing in Marrakesh. I'd be heading into the hills, or perhaps further south, where quality would be better and prices lower... but never mind that. I've never been to Morocco. I've been quite near it though, in an area it ludicrously claims and holds by force. In fact the Moroccan army tried to kill me there (not personally, just as an enemy or possible enemy in the distance... but it felt personal, the way it does when people try to kill you). Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 14 Mar 13 20:55   New Pope Elected... - Cliff Pope

>> Popes make infallible statements about >> once per century. >> Probably true. :) Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 14 Mar 13 20:58   New Pope Elected... - Armel Coussine

It's a long time since I was a Catholic, but I think infallibility only applies on serious matters of theology. Even Catholics snigger about it though. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 14 Mar 13 22:42   New Pope Elected... - zookeeper

religion.should be kept in the library... under fiction Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 15 Mar 13 01:17   New Pope Elected... - Armel Coussine

I believe Pope Francis I has said he supports Argentina's claim to the Falklands, like every other piece of third-world excrement with a few exceptions (including the Argentinian journalist I saw on the box the other night, a geezer with brains). I think his Holiness needs to be asked repeatedly what happened to the indigenous inhabitants of southern Argentina. None have been seen for a very long time. Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 15 Mar 13 08:51   New Pope Elected... - Cliff Pope

>> >> I think his Holiness needs to be asked repeatedly what happened to the indigenous inhabitants >> of southern Argentina. None have been seen for a very long time. >> He's not even a real Argentinian - Italian I read. Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 15 Mar 13 10:00   New Pope Elected... - Robin O'Reliant

Top Ten Pope Facts (May offend). www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/the-daily-mash-guide-to-francis-the-first-2013031462625 Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 15 Mar 13 12:37   New Pope Elected... - Roger.

IIRC, ethnic Italians are a large part of the Argentine people's make-up. Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 15 Mar 13 12:53   New Pope Elected... - Alanovich

Unlike indigenous South Americans. Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 15 Mar 13 14:17   New Pope Elected... - madf

>> Unlike indigenous South Americans. >> "Argentina has a total population of 40 million. The Additional Survey on Indigenous Populations, published by the National Institute for Statistics and Census, gives a total of 600,329 people who see themselves as descending from or belonging to an indigenous people. For a number of reasons the different indigenous organisations do not believe this to be a credible survey..........." tinyurl.com/d9h9srw Reply to this message | Report message

Mon 18 Mar 13 17:22   Argentina's Kirchner raises Falklands with Pope. - Zero

Argentine President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner says she has asked for the Pope's intervention in the Falklands dispute between her country and the UK. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21835363 Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 19 Mar 13 15:15   Argentina's Kirchner raises Falklands with Pope. - Cliff Pope

Perhaps she would like to adhere to the Pope's ruling of 1494 dividing the New World between Spain and Portugal. No mention of Argentina receiving anything. www.danstopicals.com/tordesillas1.htm Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 19 Mar 13 15:24   Argentina's Kirchner raises Falklands with Pope. - CGNorwich

No mention of us receiving anything either though. :-( Since the Argentine government are the legal successors of the Spanish wouldn't the treaty of Tordesillas tend to support President Kirchner's claim? Don't let them know about it! ;-) Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 19 Mar 13 15:27   Argentina's Kirchner raises Falklands with Pope. - CGNorwich

Too late - they already know! from Wikipedia "The Treaty of Tordesillas has been invoked by Argentina in the 20th century as part of its claim to the Falkland Islands.[35]" Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 19 Mar 13 15:33   Argentina's Kirchner raises Falklands with Pope. - No FM2R

What Kirchner wants is attention diverted from the state of her country, the accusations against her, and forthcoming events within Argentina. It would appear to be working. Interestingly those were pretty much Galtieri's motivations as well. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 19 Mar 13 15:39   Argentina's Kirchner raises Falklands with Pope. - CGNorwich

Yep - classic diversionary move. Nothing like a military expedition and a bit of flag waving jingoism to divert the population from troubles at home. Good job we don't go in for that sort of thing. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 19 Mar 13 15:49   Argentina's Kirchner raises Falklands with Pope. - sooty123

>> Yep - classic diversionary move. Nothing like a military expedition and a bit of flag >> waving jingoism to divert the population from troubles at home. Good job we don't go >> in for that sort of thing. >> >> >> Since the former is not really an option, would just the latter actually work? I don't think it would, but I don't know the politics of argentina. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 19 Mar 13 15:51   Argentina's Kirchner raises Falklands with Pope. - Zero

>> Yep - classic diversionary move. Nothing like a military expedition and a bit of flag >> waving jingoism to divert the population from troubles at home. Good job we don't go >> in for that sort of thing. But you need to pick someone who's ass you can whop, get your own ass whopped and you are out on your ear! Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 19 Mar 13 15:59   Argentina's Kirchner raises Falklands with Pope. - CGNorwich

"But you need to pick someone who's ass you can whop, " About time we re-occupied the Faroes. Never did like those jumpers. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 19 Mar 13 15:38   Argentina's Kirchner raises Falklands with Pope. - sooty123

Still going on about it, I wonder when she'll stop? I wonder if her plan is to bore the FI into submission since they've no real military option? Is there an election coming up? Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 19 Mar 13 16:00   Argentina's Kirchner raises Falklands with Pope. - No FM2R

>>But you need to pick someone who's ass you can whop Or, pick on someone who nobody would expect you to attack and play the poor underdog. Reply to this message | Report message