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Thread Author: Dulwich Estate Replies: 22

 How to treat a new battery - Dulwich Estate
A family member has just aquired a new laptop - a Lenovo naturally.

How best to look after the new battery I wonder: keep the charger plugged in and on all the time it's in use at home or run the computer on battery alone and charge up only on the low battery warning.
 How to treat a new battery - Slidingpillar
If it's anything like the laptop this is written on, it's not that simple. My Samsung has two screen brightness settings, full brightness on mains, dimmer on battery. True you can adjust it, both permanently or temporary.

I think modern batteries don't suffer from the memory effect that afflicted Nickel Cadmium cells, but which way lasts better/longer I could not say. However I've had a good life out of the batteries I've got and they don't show signs of dying, yet... (hurriedly touches wood).
 How to treat a new battery - DP
The Samsung laptops come with a utility called BatteryLifeExtender, which can be set to stop the battery charging once it reaches 80% charge level to prevent the battery life being shortened by repeated overcharging. Our company issues laptops to all staff whether field based or not, so many of them, mine included, spend all day most days plugged into the mains.

My 400B is over a year old now, but will still run happily for four hours unplugged.
Last edited by: DP on Thu 20 Sep 12 at 13:14
 How to treat a new battery - oilburner
I would say just use it. No point using it on mains just to save the battery, they die with age as well as use anyway.

As DP says, they manage themselves pretty well too. And by the time the battery is beyond use, the laptop will probably be due to be replaced anyway.

Our work laptops (was Dell, now Lenovo) go 4-5 years with the original batteries with some mains and some battery only usage and they seem fine.
 How to treat a new battery - No FM2R
As someone (Mapmaker?) said about mobile phones, what's the point of having one and then not using its capabilities.

Just use it. You're not going to make enough difference to its battery to matter. And you can always buy a new battery two years form now if you wish as they deteriorate anyway.

I keep portable stuff plugged in so that its full charge when I want it to be. If that makes a difference to the battery life, which I doubt, then that's one of the prices of having portable equipment.

You buy stuff to use it.

I am reminded of my Grandmother who would never switch on her transistor radio in case the batteries ran out.
 How to treat a new battery - Zero
The family member should read the documentation that came with the new Lenovo, where it is all explained in there.

RTFM
 How to treat a new battery - No FM2R
No FM2R
 How to treat a new battery - Dulwich Estate
Well you lot have made your point alright, but may I respectfully suggest a trifle light on the diplomacy front.
 How to treat a new battery - No FM2R
oo, sorry. Unintentional. Well, unintentional on my part, dunno about Zero-the-liberal.
 How to treat a new battery - rtj70
My previous two work laptops would be plugged into the mains all the time. The battery life over say 3-4 years definitely deteriorate. I put it down to always being plugged in and therefore trickle charged.

The one before last in fact would last no more than 45min to an hour. And then when you tried to charge it, it would think it was full after a short charge.... I just put up with it until I got my next laptop. Only time I'd tend to use it on battery was whilst on a train and not being sat near a power socket.
 How to treat a new battery - No FM2R
By the way, I assume that you do realise that No FM2R is a response to RTFM rather than agreement?
 How to treat a new battery - Dog
Jeez! - I always wondered what No FM2R meant.

:-D
 How to treat a new battery - No FM2R
>>I always wondered what No FM2R meant.


I am here merely to bring enlightenment Grasshopper.
 How to treat a new battery - Zero
Poke us in the eyes more like...
 How to treat a new battery - No FM2R
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Last edited by: No FM2R on Thu 20 Sep 12 at 19:32
 How to treat a new battery - Dog
>>I am here merely to bring enlightenment Grasshopper<<

One of my all-time faves! www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCyJRXvPNRo
 How to treat a new battery - Manatee
Running them plugged in all the time kills the battery. You could just remove it if you want to do that. Except for the Samsungs as already mentioned, with the battery life extender.

All my work laptops were left plugged in, none of them could do more than half an hour on battery after a year of that treatment. I didn't make the connection until I came across the Samsung utility.
 How to treat a new battery - Zero
Its not unique to Samsung, most new laptops have utilities that stop charging when near full.

Its actually the heat that kills modern batteries, so most laptops have a temperature sensor in the battery and vary the charging rate and shut off by keeping the battery temperature down. Above about 37 degrees will shorten battery life.
 How to treat a new battery - Mapmaker
My iPhone when plugged into the car, with the screen on permanently running Traffic gets pretty hot. Is this normal?
 How to treat a new battery - rtj70
Yes - it will be drawing a lot of power to try and charge and also run the phone. The battery will warm up a bit when charging. When the phone is running something needing a fair amount of power the CPU will get hot.

How hot an iPhone can get I can't say. Is there a temperature somewhere in the About area of settings? I can get to see temperatures on Android.
 How to treat a new battery - Zero
>> My iPhone when plugged into the car, with the screen on permanently running Traffic gets
>> pretty hot. Is this normal?

It will get hot, the backlight is on, its drawing power to battery charge, the CPU is working hard, and the sun is shining through the screen onto your nice black heat soaking device.

Depends how hot is hot, and yes it will shorten battery life

Edit. if it thinks its too hot it will tell you and shut features off till it cools down. There is no app to tell you the internal temp, as there is no API for the temperature sensor in the phone (which is just a threshold sensor anyway)
Last edited by: Zero on Sun 23 Sep 12 at 10:46
 How to treat a new battery - TeeCee
The work laptop spends 99% of its time plugged into the docking station. First battery lasted all of six months and its been chewing them ever since.

Both the home laptops tend to be used on battery most of the time, charged up regularly and only sometimes used while plugged in. Both of them have batteries that are still as new.

Then again it could be just that my employers bought Dell machines and they are as rubbish at laptop batteries as they are at everything else they do......
 How to treat a new battery - Aretas
I have a socket in my office with a timer permanently plugged in, but with the output coming on for just one hour in the middle of the night. Plug in my BlackBerry Playbook most evenings, and it will be charged, and not over-charged, in the morning.
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