www.bbc.co.uk/bang/ programme of 26/3/12 shows how hard it is to get rid of stored data.
Has anyone who watched it found the way to access the recommendations on scrambling software it mentions near the end please?
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I guess they mean this page:
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01fbfhg
where there's a link to the CESG website under 'Disk-wiping software advice':
www.cesg.gov.uk/ServiceCatalogue/CCTM/Pages/CCTM-Awards.aspx
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Its all a bit of a scare story really when it comes to targeting users data on memory devices.,
Firstly you have to be specifically targeted, no one goes to efforts required to get data unless you are worthy of it - Everyone on here isnt.
Then a fair degree of social hacking need to go on - a picture built up of what you access, spend money on, where you bank etc etc. Memory devices rarely provide the full picture required to exploit the bits of data recovered ( and remember its not all recovered - a lot has to be re engineered )
Live trojans on PCs are much more effective.
So in short, any normal erase programme is sufficient, if you are really paranoid just use a tool that overwrites all locations with rubbish.
Its really not required tho, none of you work in the pentagon.
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>> Its really not required tho, none of you work in the pentagon. >>
... and hope that none of you are in to kiddie zoo sadomaso pron.
Last edited by: John H on Tue 27 Mar 12 at 11:49
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Thanks for the lead, Focus. It seems my usual "wiper", Crap Cleaner and its producer, Piriform are not on the approved list.
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draiber:
For whatever reason, it seems you want to delete your data to military grade security.
>> Thanks for the lead, Focus. It seems my usual "wiper", Crap Cleaner and its producer,
>> Piriform are not on the approved list.
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Can you name just one software or software vendor, regardless of price, that is listed in the link to the CESG website under 'Disk-wiping software advice'?
The reason I ask is that I cannot see a single instance of "Disk-wiping software" listed.
(The Proton T-4 Degausser www.protondata.com/products/t4new_1.jpg is hardware).
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>> ... and hope that none of you are in to kiddie zoo sadomaso pron.
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And if you are, I hope you get caught..
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Maybe I have the wrong description. What I mean is something that can remove cookies or other leads to secure sites such as banking and PayPal that other users of the computer might access, while leaving the rest undamaged. In addition, I imagine removing this stuff helps the computer to speed up its initial virus check.
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>>What I mean is something that can remove cookies
>> or other leads to secure sites such as banking and PayPal that other users of
>> the computer might access, while leaving the rest undamaged.
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1. crapcleaner is good enough for cookies, etc. removal
2. Set your browser to delete cookies after you shut it down, and shut it down after every secure session. Set your browser (at least you can do so in IE) to "do not save encrypted pages to disk".
3. Use privacy mode on IE9, Firefox, Chrome or whatever browser you choose. i have found that Chrome (stable version 17) retains your cache even after you have logged off a site, and sometimes if you press the back button, it takes you back to a secure page with all your data showing.
4. Use the browser in built "tools" to clear your cookies and history after a secure session.
5. Do not let untrusted "other users" near your computer. ;-)
6. Do all the above and "other users" won't know what you have been doing with your money.
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>> >> Its really not required tho, none of you work in the pentagon. >>
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>> ... and hope that none of you are in to kiddie zoo sadomaso pron.
If you are you would be using an unbreakable encrypted disk.
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>> If you are you would be using an unbreakable encrypted disk.
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Just two examples to show that that would be no use:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11479831
failing to disclose an encryption key
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14169406
failure to disclose a computer password.
Last edited by: John H on Tue 27 Mar 12 at 15:12
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>> >> If you are you would be using an unbreakable encrypted disk.
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>> Just two examples to show that that would be no use:
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>> www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11479831
>> failing to disclose an encryption key
16 weeks jail for failure to disclose?
>> www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14169406
>> failure to disclose a computer password.
A year in jail for failure to disclose? 30 months for obscene drawings?
Minimum jail term and no sex offenders register for failure to disclose is EXACTLY why they use encryption.
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Thank you John H for your points, which I will attend to.
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