What are the best shoes (reasonably priced) for walking on snow/ice? For both formal and casual dresses.
I have to wear formal shoes in the office and walking from car park (a multistory hundreds of yards away from main building) to front door is bit of a challenge everyday.
Why shoes are not made with winter tyre like rubbers?
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When it gets really bad I wear a pair of safety boots (toesavers?) as they are very padded (so warm) and have a really chunky sole. Slip into my "office" shoes when I get in.
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Expect Humph will be along shortly with inside view.
I've found Clarks Air Wear and other successors to the polyveldt line good in similar circs.
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Anything with a bit of tread and natural rubber ( as opposed to synthetic ) sole will be best but nothing compares to proper ice-grip type accessories.
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Surely you mean sandals Humph to go with the summer boots on your car :-)
You could always go closed toe sandals if you wanted to hedge your bets.
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Car's fine, not worried at all. It has been parked on the (now snow covered) drive all morning and hasn't slid off once...
:-)
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When I had an office based job I wore Doc Martins for yomping through the snow and ice before changing into my formal shoes, which I kept under my desk, once I got to work.
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I wear my walking boots to go to the shops/pubs and supermarket, at work my trusty steel toe caps do the trick.
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I use my Brasher textile walking shoes - good grip so far, waterproof warm, comfy, already pulled out the gripper attachments in the event of a repeat of last year's ice.
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>> I bought a pair of these last week and they are the most comfortable pair
>> of boots I've worn in my life.
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More comfy than the DeWalt Challengers D, if so i'll be ordering a pair for mincing about in.
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>>More comfy than the DeWalt Challengers D<<
Yes gord - I posted them with you in mind, I went for the grey colour, sounds odd I know but, they're Khaki :)
ps ... don't forget to wear ya male fragrance with them :D
Last edited by: Dog on Fri 16 Dec 11 at 17:06
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They look comfy Dog not a bad price.I don't know if i can wear them do.I have some nice trainer shoes comfy with thermal socks.I have arthiritis in my left foot can be painfull.
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I have arthiritis in my left foot can be painfull.
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Tell me about it Dutchie, sometimes wake up almost in tears as the damage to various joints and muscles makes itself known during the night.
''ps ... don't forget to wear ya male fragrance with them :D''
My male fragrance aint too good at the moment, have had to stop using underarm deodorant for a few days, seem to be getting some sort of reaction itching etc....still maybe it's pheremones and i'll become irresistable...the hound likes the pong anyway..:-)
Will order these here boots as suggested in short order, been looking for some replacements for me old desert boots anyway, thanks D.
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.I don't know if i can wear them.I have some nice trainer shoes comfy with thermal socks.I have arthiritis in my left foot can be painfull.
Is it gout Dutchie, or in your ankle?
I wear 2 pairs of thick socks with the boots = bootiful! just like comfy trainers really.
They are not un-like the ole desert boots funnily enough gord, not as heavy as the Dewalts - you'll luv em!
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Old age Dog.I have some nice shoes Clarksons leather but after walking a bit to painfull.Summertime I wear sandals very comfy.Hope that the boots are ok Dog.Some of these deodorants the chemicals can affect.Talcing powder maybe best.
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Talcing powder maybe best.
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Looking forward to mincing in me poncy boots already Dutchie, now talcum powder...hmm hope i'm not on the change.:-)
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Change the underarm anti-smell for a while.
Try MUM Rolette, unperformed version: change back to your usual brand when the itchiness is gone.
I find Mitchum, in the green roll-on applicator is good. It's looks more expensive than some, but there are 100ml in the bottle rather than the more usual 50 ml.
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>> I find Mitchum, in the green roll-on applicator is good. It's looks more expensive than
>> some, but there are 100ml in the bottle rather than the more usual 50 ml.
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Thanks Roger, Mitchum fans here too, SWM uses the roll on and i use their aerosols.
My favourite was the Mitchum gel, similar type of bottle to the solid stuff but obviously a gel in the stubby bottle, haven't been able to find any for years now...there seems to be some available online but at seriously stupid prices.
The itching thing i do get now and again, if i do as now go minus the deodorant but wash underarms twice a day...thinking of the environment you understand..;)...then normally back in business in a week.
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Mitchum gave me a rash and before you ask if it was ball or aerosol it was under my arms !
Dove with 'ello Vera.
Last edited by: Humph D'Bout on Fri 16 Dec 11 at 20:26
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Dutchie, try 'running trainers' next time you buy - they have a slightly curved sole and really good support. We got them in a small specialist sports shop where they were fitted with great care, cost £40-60 depending on size. These are so well designed that he does not need his support inserts in them.
The podiatrist recommended them for my son as most others now bow to fashion rather than function and that they are the ones the podiatrists wear themselves.
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>> Car's fine, not worried at all. It has been parked on the (now snow covered)
>> drive all morning and hasn't slid off once...
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Wise move, leave it home when its like this, I mean, how would you explain it to us........
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Do you really think, for one nanosecond, that I'd fess up on here to bending the Merc in the snow? Not that it would happen of course but, well, really !
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You can get doodads that go over normal shoes with spiked things in so you can walk on snow and ice ok.
Yaktrax make some good ones. Wrong time of year to buy them though!
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Thought I'd splash out on some proper walking boots for walking to/from the station in the white stuff. But then I saw what they cost. So I bought these instead:
www.shoezone.com/Mens-Boots/Mens-Waxy-Lace-Up-Boot-In-Brown/58574
£15 for 'walking boots' - a bit like those sub-£100 'mountain bikes' I suppose. But I have worn them a few times, in mud if not snow, and they're pretty comfy. And no wet feet, yet...
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You can't go far wrong - in reviewing my footwear fleet I had a couple of pairs repaired - cost between 12.00 and 15.00 - makes them almost throwaway at that price.
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Nooooooooooo
Oh never mind, Where's my pills?
:-(
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>> Nooooooooooo
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>> Oh never mind, Where's my pills?
Sorry Humph - I won't mention the top notch stylish trainers I got at the same time for £13 then... :)
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Ok - I'm breathing normally again now.
A question for those who wouldn't dream of putting some cheap unknown brand of tyres on their car and indeed will pay a premium to have a particular brand in some cases. With special emphasis to those who have not only done that but who have bought a second set of winter tyres.
Why, in the name of all that's holy, would you then put rubbish shoes on your feet when for less than the price of one of those tyres you could have had something nicer, well made, healthier and better looking to wear?
Just don't get it.
:-(
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>> Ok - I'm breathing normally again now.
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>> A question for those who wouldn't dream of putting some cheap unknown brand of tyres
>> on their car
Guess it's not aimed at me then (actually I think they were described as 'mid-range')...
>> Why, in the name of all that's holy, would you then put rubbish shoes on
>> your feet when for less than the price of one of those tyres you could
>> have had something nicer
I think the boots look quite good actually, and when I showed them to colleagues at work and asked them how much they thought I paid, estimates were in the range £50-£100.
>> well made
worthwhile I suppose if it means they last proportionally longer - but does it? And are more expensive shoes always better made anyway? Not convinced.
>> healthier
Presumably you mean leather rather than synthetic. If you suffer from sweaty feat then yes, I can see the advantage in that, but I don't (no problem wearing the same pair of socks for a week, for both running and normal wear).
>> and better looking to wear?
Ah - thought that's what you meant by 'nicer'; see above.
And I'm one of those (northern?) people who get real satisfaction from finding 'bargains'. Yes, even at £15 they might turn out to be a waste of money, but at the moment I'm feeling quite smug :)
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Ah but, you can't always use design life as the primary measure of quality. Quality is a combination of factors adding up to how well a product performs. For example, it is almost certainly possible to make tyres which would last 100 thousand miles but driving on them would not be pleasant. Likewise, footwear can have longevity designed into it easily enough but the wearing experience can be compromised by the techniques required to achieve the extremes of that.
Wasn't it Rolls or Royce who said something like "quality being remembered long after price is forgotten"
Those Salomons below are nice actually. Good kit.
Last edited by: Humph D'Bout on Fri 16 Dec 11 at 20:17
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>> Why, in the name of all that's holy, would you then put rubbish shoes on
>> your feet when for less than the price of one of those tyres you could
>> have had something nicer, well made, healthier and better looking to wear?
Cos I don't do 70mph down the motorway in my shoes...
And as for nicer, well, you can't beat a good pair of salomons
www.blacks.co.uk/footwear/men/walking-boots-leather/product/083303/mens-3d-fast-gore-tex-boots.html?attribute=166214
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No you're right, wearing a pair of their approach shoes tonight which should have been binned a while ago but you know...., have another lightweight ones for summer.....
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>> You can't go far wrong - in reviewing my footwear fleet I had a couple
>> of pairs repaired - cost between 12.00 and 15.00 - makes them almost throwaway at
>> that price.
When I was in the US last May, one of my shoes split due to me tripping over in the airbridge getting off the plane. The sole came away from the upper. As I was travelling hand luggage only, they were my only shoes and as I had gone across for some business meetings I had to do something about it urgently.
Driving from the airport through Detroit, I stopped at the first shopping mall and hobbled into a shoe shop. I bought a pair of formal shoes for 20 dollars, minus 5 dollars to sign up to their marketing scheme using an invented e-mail address. So, 15 dollars for a pair of black leather shoes. I decided to keep them until they drop to bits, and I'm still wearing them daily for work.
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>> Driving from the airport through Detroit, I stopped at the first shopping mall and hobbled
>> into a shoe shop. I bought a pair of formal shoes for 20 dollars, minus
>> 5 dollars to sign up to their marketing scheme using an invented e-mail address. So,
>> 15 dollars for a pair of black leather shoes. I decided to keep them until
>> they drop to bits, and I'm still wearing them daily for work.
you can buy half of Detroit for 20 dollars
And change
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>> you can buy half of Detroit for 20 dollars
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>> And change
You're not wrong:-(
tinyurl.com/yhl4ahd
Couldn't believe how the place had gone downhill in the 5 years since my previous visit. And it was a dive then. Eight Mile Road really looked like it did in the Eminem film.
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>>still wearing them daily for work.
Cool...
:-(
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>> Cool...
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>> :-(
More money for winter tyres!
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Somebody tell us that in Sweden winter shoes are compulsory.
I wear all the year round Hush-puppies.
Studs damage the carpets.
zzzzzzz.....
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>> These are the puppy's undercarriage...
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Yor 'avin a giraffe, yer not selling to the golf club membered by current and retired lawyers senior policemen/civil service and bankers yernow.;)
Saw the price and had to sit down sharpish.
I've ordered the Dog's recommendation for mere mortals.
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I see what you mean about the price GB. I think mine were about £140 when I bought them 3 or 4 years ago. Not much above the average for a decent pair of walking boots and a bargain compared to the Brasher boots I struggled with for a few years before that.
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>> I think mine were about £140
>> Not much above the average for
>> a decent pair of walking boots and a bargain..?!
Whaaaaat!!!!!
I say MT old chap, you couldn't spare 50p for a cup of tea for an old soak could you, bless you sor.
mutters to self about wrong job etc etc whilst quietly sobbing...:-)
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How much are you prepared to spend on a pair of tyres GB?
Damage a wheel and you can buy a new one. Damage your feet and...
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>> How much are you prepared to spend on a pair of tyres GB?
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>> Damage a wheel and you can buy a new one. Damage your feet and...
You dont kick bricks at 60 miles an hour do you.
The amount of money you spend on a pair of shoes does not equate to to damage to feet. I have had expensive shoes that have crippled me.
Last edited by: Zero on Fri 16 Dec 11 at 22:50
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Then you didn't take care to ensure that they fitted you properly in the first place. Regardless of price type of construction and or quality that basic requirement is fundamental to comfort.
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>> Fit - Regardless of price type of construction and or quality that basic requirement is fundamental
>> to comfort.
Ah right, cheap good fitting shoes are fine then.
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Far better than expensive ill-fitting ones undoubtedly. However, not to too bluntly state the obvious, a well fitted higher quality pair will be better still.
Interestingly, or maybe not, some of the brands most famous for their alleged quality are in fact pretty average but are well marketed whereas some of the lesser known makes operated usually by technical enthusiasts rather than accountants can be excellent. But as with most things in life, yes by and large you get what you pay for.
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For general use I've found some £30 M&S shoes good when I've bought them. Comfortable and seem okay for my seemingly wide feet.
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You'd be surprised who makes for M&S when the factories need the work... Sometimes there are real bargains to be had as opposed to other times when, well, you get what you pay for to reprise the phrase.
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>>Comfortable and seem okay for my seemingly wide feet.
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Me too but they must also be soft.
I buy my shoes and trainers at Clarks at either Bicester Outlet Village or Gun Wharf Keys
Outlet at Portsmouth.
They often have wider fittings.
Usually a reasonable selection at quite a saving.
Pick them off the shelf and try em on. Try as many of the same size/styles as they have.
Absolutely no one ever trying to sell you anything. I like that a lot.
I now have a good collection but will still sometimes buy others if they fit cos they will often not be available in the High Street and will not be their on my next visit.
I do not have a need for "proper" walking boots but have a pair of Clarks boots with tank treads in case we get some white stuff.
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Walking boots aren't a problem. I buy them a size of half-size too big because otherwise it can be uncomfortable coming down steep hills.
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Doesn't that sort of compress your toes at the front as the foot slides forward when going downhill.
Thinking about what Humph says, I own a pair of Alt-Berg Motorcycle boot, regarded by most testers as the best all round boot for the purpose, supremely comfortable all day, waterproof and warm, made in the UK with the person who made them's name inside....good boots that if treated properly will last a life time...and not that expensive.
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>> I have had expensive shoes that have crippled me.
I had Zero down as an intelligent person. And I am sure he is. But if a pair of shoes is not comfortable I won't buy them. Which is why I'd be wary of buying online. My feet are only size 8 but wide. So I would want to try the shoes out. He must be like some women buying shoes on looks over and above function. Which surprises me with regards Z.
I am sure it's possible to get expensive shoes that are not comfortable for an individual. And ones a lot cheaper that are.
No offence intended to you Zero - I am sure the shoes you refer to are smart ones for work that looks the part. I tend not to wear such shoes these days,
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>> >> I have had expensive shoes that have crippled me.
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>> I had Zero down as an intelligent person. And I am sure he is. But
>> if a pair of shoes is not comfortable I won't buy them
Even I cant tell what they are like after 8 hours on your feet two weeks down the line. Brains has got nothing to do with it. Clairvoyance has.
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Seek out a local retailer who is a member of the Society of Shoe fitters. Seriously, they exist and are usually highly skilled in the task. Google is your friend.
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>>I say MT old chap, you couldn't spare 50p for a cup of tea for an old soak could you, bless you sor.
Sorry, still making payments on the boots. But I'll let you have a go with them if you like ;-)
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>> These are the puppy's undercarriage...
I have a pair of those Meindls, proper corkers. Most comfortable walking boots I've ever had. I think it must be the memory foam - after the first few minutes they just fit perfectly without any sensation of pressure anywhere.
I've also ordered a pair of Dog boots for general outdoor winter wear - I hope they fit.
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>>I've also ordered a pair of Dog boots for general outdoor winter wear - I hope they fit<<
Proper job my ansome! - good for walkers too.
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Grisport Dartmoor's.
As a member of the Long Distance Walkers Assoc I know a 'bit' about these things And I recommend these highly. Great durability. Comfortable. Decent leather.
Well worth a look with excellent reviews on Amazon.
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Nice leather usually in Grisports.
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Well guys, you're not going to impress the ladies in those expensive boots...I much prefer Focus's £15 ones:)
Pat
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Oh come now Pat, a chap can cut a dash in the oldest and scruffiest of cars provided he's well turned out but an ill-attired driver of the latest model misses the point entirely.
A dear friend of mine who wouldn't be seen dead in anything with wheels which wasn't made in Germany in the last two years and who has a similar view of his business suits will however still insist on wearing low rent shoes.
More or less the equivalent of loudly breaking wind at a formal dinner without realising why it's offensive.
:-)
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>> Well guys, you're not going to impress the ladies in those expensive boots...I much prefer
>> Focus's £15 ones:)
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>> Pat
Good thing I'm not trying to impress any ladies then! (or gentlemen).
I hate rubbish shoes, generally, but less than total comfort is folly for a walking boot. The Meindls are a joy to wear and use, will last for years so really are good value to me - they've never given me a moments discomfort, never mind a blister.
Maybe I should wear these to impress you. I have two pairs, purchased for nostalgic reasons on consecutive visits to Rogersons in Rothbury (worth a visit). £24 a pair IIRC, the last pair reduced to £14 because one had been in the window - I do like a bargain.
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B001C5NZPY
Horses for courses though - I wear them to the pub 1/2 a mile away, work on a Friday, or a shuffle round the shops. Not tested in the desert yet.
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>> Maybe I should wear these to impress you. I have two pairs, purchased for nostalgic
>> reasons on consecutive visits to Rogersons in Rothbury
My mistake - they are this one -
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B001GTB9MM
so more of a bargain than I thought :-)
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I have a pair of waxy boots like that (with DMS type soles) - NEXT branded I bought them before 1998 in a sale and wear them every winter, they were "replaced" last winter by a pair of Ecco boots, but the others soldier on, just been treated to new heels and a bodywork re-furb (nice honey based leather treatment bought at the NEC bike show) they'll outlast me. The Eccos are just too good to be wrecked by salt and the such like.
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Hmm, well, yes and no. Your "good" boots won't suffer if you treat them right. Get some good old fashioned dubbin. Or better still what the Germans call "lederfett" Apply it sparingly but reasonably often with a sponge. Soft side of a pan scourer is ideal.
To put it another way, let's imagine you'd bought some winter tyres for your 4wd car and when winter comes you use your old summer tyred 2wd because you don't want to get salt on the new one....
My philosophy is if you have something nice then use it. It's what you bought it for innit?
:-)
Last edited by: Humph D'Bout on Sat 17 Dec 11 at 09:03
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Are you the male version of Imelda Marcos PU?
Pat
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:-) Not really, I have a selection of pairs for different tasks - I have one pair of "formal" shoes left, the others have been recycled - I've just kept the "essentials" including two pairs of bike boots.
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Tee hee, at the last count I had something approaching 100 pairs of "footwear". My wife has more than 300. This may be excessive I grant...
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>>Which is why I'd be wary of buying online.
Me, too.
The only items of footwear I've bought online have not fitted at all well, despite being ordered in my usual size. One, a pair of brogues, were absolutely massive and had to be sent back. Another, a pair of trainers that were too small, were twice taken to a local cobblers to be stretched.
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Which is also why it's really worthwhile to get something which fits your feet and your needs. Feet are like faces, no two, even on the same body, are the same. Unless you go for bespoke footwear it's always going to be a compromise of course but care taken at the time of purchase makes a huge difference.
Think of it this way, an item of clothing which is a quarter of an inch too small or large or long or short can generally be put up with or fairly easily adjusted. An item of footwear similarly off size will cause poor posture, may rub and at best be uncomfortable, at worst cause permanent damage.
Feet are truly 3 dimensional. Not only do they have a natural shape but they are also malleable. So something which "feels" ok in the shop may in fact be applying gentle pressure which will lead to discomfort in wear. Bear in mind also that your feet are generally flatter, wider and longer at the end of a day on them than they are in a morning. Age makes a difference too. Just because you were a standard size 10 medium fitting when you were 25 doesn't necessarily mean you are still that when you are 50. Feet collapse with age, spreading at the toes but thinning at the heels. In the process they get wider and flatter, particularly if you like pies...
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My feet are slightly different sizes, or possibly shapes.
The right shoe of a new pair is always a snugger fit than the left.
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Perfectly normal Iffy. Most people are noticeably different right to left or vice versa.
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...Tee hee, at the last count I had something approaching 100 pairs of "footwear". My wife has more than 300. This may be excessive I grant...
For the sake of your bank balance, I hope most were free samples.
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Actually no. I'm not sample size.
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>> compare.ebay.co.uk/like/130476918372?var=lv<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar
They look more sturdy than some of the cheaper examples I've seen that tend to lose there studs.
Size 8 to 10. Plenty of leeway there, then.
Thanks, Dog. I'll get me some, and a pair for the wife for Christmas.
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Just get some for yourself and use the wife as a sledge.
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Be reasonable, I've got to buy her something for Christmas.
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...I've seen that tend to lose their studs...
My brother gave me a cheapie pair of grips one Christmas.
The studs came out after a couple of uses.
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>>The studs came out after a couple of uses.
But these have been tried and tested by Dog.
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...But these have been tried and tested by Dog...
They look sturdier and of generally better quality than the ones I had.
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Iffy, I have to say, if you have a need to go out in ice and snow, they're worth a punt. Especially if like me of a certain age where you don't want a tumble
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...Especially if like me of a certain age where you don't want a tumble...
Especially so in my case.
A fall would be a good test of the new hip, but not one I want to undertake.
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I was thinking that but was loath to mention it ! I've avoided hospitals for the last 52 years and have no intention of being dragged into one now if I can take an 11 quid pre-caution.
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I think the ones I bought last year are the same make - you get spare studs with them, they lasted quite well. On stand by in the garage !
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>> I think the ones I bought last year are the same make -
Do you have their brand name, R.P.? I'd prefer to buy from Amazon, if possible.
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www.amazon.co.uk/Get-Grip-Everyday-Traction-Large-XLarge/dp/B002LWDCE6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1324127965&sr=8-1
These are the ones I have - half the price of what I paid last year. Spare spikes as well. 4 Star rating. I'd put them there as well.
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Same as Dog's but cheaper - Invisible Hand say they're the cheapest in their database.
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>>These are the ones I've actually got (and use)
>>Same as Dog's
Thanks R.P. and Dog. Two pairs ordered a few minutes ago.
Clk Sec
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...Thanks R.P. and Dog. Two pairs ordered a few minutes ago...
And another pair sold to the bloke in the corner on crutches.
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Just the small matter of getting all the way down there to put 'em on now I guess? Hope the recovery goes well Iffy. My elder brother had it done seven times. He didn't dare go past those big magnets in scrapyards.
:-)
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...Just the small matter of getting all the way down there to put 'em on now I guess?...
That is a point, it's child labour abuse slip-ons for me at present, so I can install the grips prior to slipping on.
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I leave them plumbed in on a pair of old walking shoes - saves a lot of faffing about.
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>>saves lot of faffing about.
I've got a suitable pair of clogs ready and waiting. Once they're on, that's where they'll stay.
Hopefully!
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What? Like part of a milkmaid outfit sort of thing?
Ooooooh kaaaay....
:-)
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No, but a new pair of chinos might fit the bill. They've got some nice ones in M&S at the moment.
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>> Tee hee, at the last count I had something approaching 100 pairs of "footwear". My
>> wife has more than 300. This may be excessive I grant...
Jeez, have you had an extension built to store them? Don't tell me, your wife has an electric carousel for easy selection..
100 pairs? I'll wager that some of those pairs probably aren't even used, just works of art to gaze at, accompanied by worn out trouser fronts from rubbing knees too much.
:)
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>> >> Maybe I should wear these to impress you. I have two pairs, purchased for
>> nostalgic
>> >> reasons on consecutive visits to Rogersons in Rothbury
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>> My mistake - they are this one -
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>> www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B001GTB9MM
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>> so more of a bargain than I thought :-)
Yes - go well with the leather patches on the elbows of your cardie.
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...Yes - go well with the leather patches on the elbows of your cardie...
Very stylish, I want one:
www.thekooples.co.uk/men-1/cardigan/shiny-effect-cardigan-1.html
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Iffy's on the money. They're back in fashion, as apparently are my Harris tweed jacket and weskit. And corduroy trousers. I've become an icon overnight.
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I'm really going to disown you lot soon.
I have a picture of each and every one of you in my mind....please don't shatter it anymore.
Pat
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>> Iffy's on the money. They're back in fashion, as apparently are my Harris tweed jacket
>> and weskit. And corduroy trousers. I've become an icon overnight.
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Not misplaced a long lost brother have you MT?
Another Harris tweed jacket and waistcoat wearer here, hope they don't come back in fashion though, some half wit will done a baseball cap with some Chinese tat copy of Harris quality and style and i'll be forced to act.
usually finish of my up to minute fashion catwalk style by sporting me last for ever and weigh a ton Dundee boots....same as these but without the action sole
...www.shoehealer.co.uk/Tricker_s/Country_Collection/Tricker_s_Malton_1_Commando_Sole_1745.html
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Now there's a proper pair of boots GB. Phew! I'd all but given up hope. Now then, if you want something really special, toddle down to Perry St in Northampton and find the Crockett & Jones factory shop. They don't come much better than those and I believe they sell them off cheaper at the factory. All relative of course, they'll still be a pretty penny.
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I linked wrongly and me memory is fading, thse are the boots i wear, Dumfries not Dundee
www.shoehealer.co.uk/Alfred_Sargent/Town_and_Country_Collection/Alfred_Sargent_Dumfries_1948.html
edit...''if you want something really special, toddle down to Perry St in Northampton and find the Crockett & Jones factory shop''
thanks MT, will indeed pay them a visit in due course.
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"MT" ? Is that like, street talk, like, like, innit? Sick.
Think that's right anyway...
:-)
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Is that price a misprint gord, or do they throw in a 32" LCD TV with it as well.
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''Is that price a misprint gord''
ISTR SWM bought me those Sargents Dumfries boots for around £150 about 10 years ago so quite a bargain at £170.
On their third sole and heel now, i don't wear the original leather soles down more than just a roughening up, but get them rubber soled almost immediately, show no sign of wear after 10 years of several days a week wear...purists like Hump (who gets good bonus's including MB estates for selling lots and repairing none) would not agree with putting rubber soles on:-).
As a bonus they are good for leg excercise too, just weighed them and each boot weighs in at
1.012kg or 2lb 3.5oz in real money..;)
'''street talk'''
pffft..;)
Last edited by: gordonbennet on Sat 17 Dec 11 at 14:43
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...would not agree with putting rubber soles on:-)...
The leather sole is designed to breathe, putting a rubber sole on will prevent that.
The boot is still breathing through the upper, but a purist might argue the sole of your foot is more sweaty with a rubber sole on the boot.
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>>Purists etc...
You know how you feel at Christmas when you've just poured a more than averagely decent glass of red wine or a good malt and there's that not quite relative of your wife who's relationship to the family is a bit obscure and who insists on putting lemonade in it?
Yeah, that's it...
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>> The leather sole is designed to breathe, putting a rubber sole on will prevent that.
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Take your point Iffy, but can't see much drying air coming through a half inch thick leather sole.
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Iffy's assumption is reasonable but not actually the problem. In fact a leather sole in that standard of shoe hides an interlayer of cork and tar mix which moulds to the foot under the insole. The cork / tar layer is inserted by a person who's job title genuinely is "Bottom filler", as a by the way. That in itself prevents any appreciable passage of air or indeed moisture.
No, the real issue is the disturbance of the relationship in the height of the heel to the thickness of the sole. Adding anything to the sole thickness mildly tips the shoe backwards which affects the wearer's posture and in turn comfort. In extreme cases it also causes premature wearing of the "top piece" ( the rubber bit on the bottom of the heel ) A leather sole can be conditioned to wear very well, and indeed can be rendered more or less waterproof without sticking anything on it.
The trick is to only wear the shoe or boot in dry weather the first few times it's used. Fine grit then embeds itself in the sole and seals it. The worst thing you can do to a leather soled shoe is to wear it in the wet when new. It'll kill it. The new leather just soaks up the moisture and expands, never to return to it's previously compacted state even when allowed to dry. Resultantly, under a microscope it will now look like a cross section of an Aero chocolate bar and will be weakened. In that instance, it'll wear through prematurely. A "conditioned" sole as described above however ( welted type anyway ) will take all manner of abuse, wear and water.
Last edited by: Humph D'Bout on Sat 17 Dec 11 at 15:34
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...Iffy's assumption is reasonable but not actually the problem...
Fair enough, your technical knowledge far exceeds mine, in that you have some and I don't.
I recall a leather soled pair of shoes I had would leave damp patches on a hard floor if I sat in the same place for a time.
Presumably, before that happening, I must have walked on a wet surface.
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Ah, well - the first link was for the Tricker's Malton/1 Commando Sole at £355 - I can get a years coal for that ;)
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>> I have to wear formal shoes
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>> Why shoes are not made with winter tyre like rubbers?
Sorry Movilogo. Drifted off a bit there.
Had be be marching round London to meetings earlier this week and wore these knowing it would be wet at the very least - heavy soled traditional type shoes with 'Dainite' rubber soles.
I'm not sure it answers your implied question about the compound though!
goo.gl/7PzJZ
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Loake Waverley ! Those used to be the shoe of choice for Police officers with airs ! Good bit of kit for the money mind.
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Haha! The Dog boots have just arrived!
Isn't Amazon amazing? Ordered yesterday. I've laced them properly (another thread for the long winter nights?) and I'm wearing them in the sitting room to check the size.
Elegant doesn't begin to describe them, but I think they'll be OK for knocking about when they're worn in a bit - I'd been on the lookout for a something similar so your mention was timely, Dog.
FWIW, a UK 8 seems to be an 8.
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Now you know why I dress to please myself:)
I really can't believe you all dress like that.
*slopes off grumpily having to wear a dress for the first time in 2 years tonight* Hmmmpph
Pat
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I find Vibram soles are good for most weather and surface conditions. As I rarely wear formal shoes these days most of my shoes have these soles.
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Vibram is pretty good.
Testing Winter Boots on next weeks Gadget Show...!
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Humph,
You didn't, ahem.., appear in this did you?
tinyurl.com/lnlppk
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"teabelly : You can get doodads that go over normal shoes with spiked things in so you can walk on snow and ice ok."
I saw some in LIDL's a few days ago. They were of very open construction. Made from sort of 1/4" square section black rubber except for the sole and that had steel spikes.
Long thread above -- not read it all -- so it may have already been mentioned.
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The boss has seen the Dog boots and wants something similar for winter trudging. She already has some Brasher walking shoes and boots, which she uses on her many expeditions with the WI and similar paramilitary operations, but they look a bit 'technical'. She wants something more generally wearable but still a boot.
I'm not sure I understand the requirement fully (do I ever), but there don't seem to be so many options for women - she only has size 5 plates.
Help.
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Seem to think you live Shropshire - ish Manatee? If so I suggest a visit to Bridgemere. Great selection of outdoorsy stuff there.
Alternatively try - www.cotswoldoutdoor.com/
Last edited by: Humph D'Bout on Sun 18 Dec 11 at 15:30
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Given that here in Buxton the pavements are iced up (compressed snow) I've worn my Nokia wellies for the first time in earnest. 35 studs in each sole! Bit of a pain to push them in, but I laugh at icy slopes now. Howver, no good in Sainsburys if you want to walk quietly:) Sounds like a platoon....
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You've just reminded me Norton, when we were kids we used to hammer "Segs" ( little metal studs of various sizes and shapes ) into the leather soles of our boots and shoes to improve grip in the winter. Wonder if you can still buy them? I feel a Google coming on...
Edit - Way hey !
www.blakeys-segs.co.uk/
Last edited by: Humph D'Bout on Sun 18 Dec 11 at 15:58
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>> You've just reminded me Norton, when we were kids we used to hammer "Segs" (
>> little metal studs of various sizes and shapes ) into the leather soles of our
>> boots and shoes to improve grip in the winter.
Banned in my school as they chewed up the parquet floors in the older parts of the building.
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Segs! Thats an idea. Not only do I have another pair of green wellies but I also have 3 pairs of textile boots and a pair of leather boots more suitable to the Alps. Its the dog walking duties: I have to keep rotating the footwear. Although not quite in the Humph territory, I do have quite a number of serviceable shoes including a pair of Loakes brogues which date back to 1974. Still in working order and a nice patina. Pays to buy quality. I always regret buying modern junk like Eco. Comfortable initially then they start to sag....
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Went with those rotating rubber heel things
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My dad always had a pair of rubber galoshes he'd pull over his shoes in bad weather. Can see him now, long woollen overcoat, Crombie I think, fedora hat, waistcoat, paisley scarf, turn-ups on his trousers, leather gloves and galoshes over his Northampton welts if the weather was bad. Bit like the bloke in "Foyle's War". Even wore a tie to do the gardening.
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>> You've just reminded me Norton, when we were kids we used to hammer "Segs" (
>> little metal studs of various sizes and shapes ) into the leather soles of our
>> boots and shoes to improve grip in the winter. Wonder if you can still buy
>> them? I feel a Google coming on...
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>> Edit - Way hey !
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>> www.blakeys-segs.co.uk/
Segs were not hammered in to improve grip, segs were hammered in to make a noise and sparks in the summer. Grip was the last thing you wanted in winter, how the hell can you make a great ice slide on the playground ashpalt when you had segs in your shoes!
Honestly Humph you jock kids were clearly backwards.
Last edited by: Zero on Sun 18 Dec 11 at 16:31
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Aye, but there's southern snow and ice and then there's the real thing. Once you'd had a month of slides you kinda wanted to get on with other things for a bit. Anyway, the ground floor of our school was marble, you could get a long way on segs on that if the janny wisnae looking...
:-)
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>> Seem to think you live Shropshire - ish Manatee?
West Herts. Not far from Aylesbury. Bit of a trek to Crewe. Could test the winter tyres ;-)
I'll show here some pictures when she descends from the loft, where she has gone in search of Christmas clutter. I'm supposed to be tidying up down here.
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These come with my personal recommendation Manatee ~
www.kinkythighboots.co.uk/leather-thigh-high-boots.html
:)
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we were so poor we couldn`t afford proper non-slip winter shoes - we had to use the old "dogs paw" method and glue sole-shaped pieces of carpet to our shoes.
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Luxury !
We 'ad to lick't pavement dry wi us tongues !
:-)
Last edited by: Humph D'Bout on Sun 18 Dec 11 at 16:43
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My grips arrived today.
They look better made than the other ones I had, and two spare studs included.
Now all I want is some snow and ice to test them - not.
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>>My grips arrived today.
Two pairs have just come through our letterbox. They look pretty sturdy, and certainly a good price from surplus.com.
Now, where's that snow?
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Mildest winter for 50 years they reckon.
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They'll keep till next year...
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they will cost less next year.
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Buy them from QVC next December, and let us know.
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When I get old and doddery I might. Did you get some for your walking stick as well?
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Ah, I wondered what the two spare studs were for...
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And one of the driest too it seems!:
As Britain prepares for one of its warmest-ever Christmases, with temperatures set to hit 14c, households in Sussex have been told not to take baths or wash their cars over the festive period due to a lack of water.
In the first winter warning since 2003 (and only the second on record) South East Water has issued drought restrictions - usually associated with blazing hot summers - to 65,000 homes.
The water company, which also serves Kent, Surrey, Hampshire and Berkshire, has been forced to tell people to take short showers instead of baths.
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The fact that the U.K gets drought restrictions imposed in the first place must surely be down to diabolical manegment of the supply systems by the Water companies, given our climate!
Last edited by: devonite on Fri 23 Dec 11 at 16:42
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It don't 'alf rain up here - one day the Welsh Government will cotton on to the country's biggest export...! :-)
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It's Karma innit? I'd just like to propose a vote of thanks to all those who bought winter tyres etc. Kept the cold well at bay that has !
:-))
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The biggest mistake was buying that 4.99 snow scoop thingy.....been meaning to buy one for a few years.....
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it will double-up as a "pooper-scooper"!
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Ach well, twa dugs now ! Sure you'll think of a use for it !
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Winter shoes? - mikeyb
