I am looking for a new one in sub £300 budget.
I am getting good deals (2 to 5 yr warranty) on following brands.
Gorenje
Haier
Daewoo (they make washing machines too!)
How reliable these brands are? Not much info on the web about their reviews.
Gorenje comes with 5-yr warranty and the rest with 2-years each.
If I go for common brands like Hotpoint, Indesit, Beko etc. they all offer only 1-yr warranty and somewhat more expensive.
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>> Daewoo (they make washing machines too!)
They were a conglomerate that made all sorts including planes and ships! Dismantled in 1999 by the Government. I assume some of the companies still trade as Daewoo. They used to be second only to Hyandai (bigger than Samsung).
Never heard of the first two. What's wrong with brands you've heard of? Something must be available for around £300 surely?
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I'm surprised Movi is finding Beko too expensive.
I have one, and it was one of the cheapest available at the time.
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We all have our own favourites but Zanussi have served us well in the past and I've just returned to them with a recent forced washing machine purchase when our Bosch of a few years failed.
Comet (just to pick one) have 6 Zanussi models under £300 so the choice seems good.
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My French Daewoo fridge freezer has proven reliable over 5 years - also appears good build quality. Have just bought another JL fridge freezer which according to JL is actually Daewoo - altho I have not been able to confirm the manufacturer from the build codes. No long term info but first impressions are good. 3yr JL warranty - delivered by Britannia.
I would stay clear of minor brands as you may not be able to find spares 4 years down the line.
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I have a Beko fridge which I'm not happy about. So don't want to buy another Beko. Although my fridge is not the one which caught fire!
The John Lewis £299 looks good and I was quite interested. But the only things put me off that most reviewers said it takes very long to wash (almost 3 hours for cotton).
My current washing machine is Hotpoint which broke down after 6 years. 3 years back I spent £100 to fix it. Don't want to fix it again (control board gone - needs £192 to fix) So thought better to buy a new one instead.
Most well known brands give only 1-yr warranty at same price range. Daewoo is giving 2-yr warranty.
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...But the only things put me off that most reviewers said it takes very long to wash (almost 3 hours for cotton)...
Put the cotton stuff in on the quick wash.
All the machine does is dunk the clothes in soap and water.
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Our Samsung washing machine has is four years old now, a record in hour house, they usually only last 18 months. All its needed is a new belt and a new pump (touch wood).
If all Samsung washing machines are built as well as that then its a bargain. It was £199, so called half price in an Argos sale, but it does feel like a £400 machine.
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>>Our Samsung washing machine has is four years old now
>>All its needed is a new belt and a new pump (touch wood).
Is that All, Rattle?
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Its used 3-4 times a day :).
Well it was my sister was here, more like 2-3 times a day now.
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>> Well it was my sister was here, more like 2-3 times a day now.
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You can wash more than one item at a time, you know.
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>> Our Samsung washing machine has is four years old now, a record in hour house,
Eh? Our Hoover logic 1300 was bought in 1986.
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>> Eh? Our Hoover logic 1300 was bought in 1986.
Drat. You've beaten me.
Hoover A8504 Electron 1100 washer / dryer bought in May 1987. Two repairs required so far.
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Sister has the late MIL's Zanussi washing machine which we bought new for MIL in 1986. Never serviced or repaired but I put its longevity down to MIL who owned it for its first 22yrs only doing a load a week and hand washing the rest... plus she lived in a soft water area.
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My Beko washing machine is now 8 years old and still going strong, nout wrong with them, its never so much as hinted at problems.
Mine was £170 in 2003 - new ones are about about the same now and id not hesitate to replace it with another if mine ever breaks.
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>> The John Lewis £299 looks good and I was quite interested. But the only things
>> put me off that most reviewers said it takes very long to wash (almost 3
>> hours for cotton).
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Sounds normal, I've just gone and checked our 2 year old Hotpoint and the display indicates 2.5 hrs. for a cotton wash, that timer is usually optimistic, so 3 hrs. doesn't sound unreasonable. Not that I've ever used the cotton wash.
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Buy an ex demo machine from Comet/Currys. We did - half price Miele £300,,,
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Although many older generation washing machines last over 15-20 years, I was told by the sales people in the shops that none of the modern ones (whatever brand) will survive beyond 6-7 years as quality has deteriorated over the years.
These are going in the same way as of cars.
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Have found Indesit very good as an inexpensive washer/dryer brand. We bought one new in '94, replaced it in '02 and replaced it again last year. So they cost under £250 each and lasted 8 years, iro £30 a year, on that basis a Miele would have to last 20 to 30 years.
And both were repairable for under £100 when we replaced them, the drive motor failed in each case though they had been hammered.
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We have an Indesit washer/dryer. Still working. Not sure how old it is but at least 6 years old I would think.
It did need a repair and that was partly our fault. Washing net curtains and there was too much foam. The foam came out of a hole (design feature and there on purpose) and went on a circuit board. New circuit board got it working - and we found an engineer that fixed it for about £70 I think.
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Remember my mum had one of those scrubbing boards Dog. Used to hate washing days when I was a boy. We had a big gas heated tub for boiling sheets and the like and the rest was done by hand. Then it all went though a mangle. The process took all day and in wet weather the washing was draped about the kitchen for days to dry. I smiled when I read that that a washing machine was considered slow because it takes nearly 3 hours to complete a wash.
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You will probably remember these too, CG. Although I'm surprised they are still available.
www.amazon.co.uk/Wooden-Laundry-Tongs-washing-machine/dp/B001UXVJEM
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>> You will probably remember these too, CG. Although I'm surprised they are still available.
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>> www.amazon.co.uk/Wooden-Laundry-Tongs-washing-machine/dp/B001UXVJEM
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I still use a pair, we've often got a soaking bucket on the go with Spamcan Junior's particularly grubby items in.
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>>Remember my mum had one of those scrubbing boards Dog<<
My ole mum had one too CG, plus what we called the copper (boiler) for the sheets etc.
she would also boil ham in it innit,
We lived on the 4th floor of a block of council (LCC) flats, I can remember the washing hanging outside on the balcony - the one that led to the other flats,
We got an Ascot (gas) later on which made life a bit easier, until a coal or miners strike in the late 50's,
we had to put a cwt of coal ... in the bath!
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During a single period in my life I had one of these -
www.householdgoods.com/mini-washing-machine.html
Did the job with no fancy plumbing or electronics.
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I remember "the copper" "the wash board" and "the wringer" all in use.
Lux flakes was used I think.
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>>During a single period in my life
It was a large black bucket for me, with something soaking in it seven days a week.
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Just bought a new John Lewis machine - they were doing an offer a couple of months back where they were chucking in a free 5 year warranty on some of their own models.
Guy in the shop told me the one I have is actually an electrolux, and a quick look on their website shows one with identical spec.
This replaced our old JL machine which was £220 and lasted just over 4 years being used at least once a day
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"Lux flakes was used I think."
and washing soda to soften the water
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and little bags of blue to "whiten" the sheets
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>> and little bags of blue to "whiten" the sheets
'Dolly Blue' was made at a factory in the South Lakes which we used to pass going from Coniston to Leeds as kids. The works and much of the surrounding area had a blue dust haze around it 24/7/365.
Suppose it's been washed away by now though.
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I was reliably informed that 'they' add blue to white paint, to make it brilliant, which is why I use Dulux absolute white, which is Brilliant, without being brilliant, like.
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>> I was reliably informed that 'they' add blue to white paint, to make it brilliant,
>> which is why I use Dulux absolute white, which is Brilliant, without being brilliant, like.
Yup, a hint of blue gives a cool white. A smidge of pink however gives a warm white.
Same principle applies to fluorescent light tubes. The temperature of the light in turn affects perception of colour whether on the walls or one's clothing.
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>>Never heard of the first two.>>
Haier, at least, is quite well known.
Beko is a brand that's well respected by most retail appliance outlets.
>> Although many older generation washing machines last over 15-20 years, I was told by the sales people in the shops that none of the modern ones (whatever brand) will survive beyond 6-7 years as quality has deteriorated over the years.>>
I wouldn't bother buying from those particular shops. A Miele washing machine, for a start, is virtually guaranteed to prove reliable and efficient for at least 15-20 years.
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>> I wouldn't bother buying from those particular shops. A Miele washing machine, for a start,
>> is virtually guaranteed to prove reliable and efficient for at least 15-20 years.
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Think many of their models come with 10 year guarantee
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>> A Miele washing machine, for a start, is virtually guaranteed to prove reliable and efficient for at least 15-20 years.
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And has to last for nearer 30 years to offer the same value as many cheaper ones.
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My gran had an electric mangle. My brother put his hand through it - he was okay.
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>> And has to last for nearer 30 years to offer the same value as many cheaper ones.>>
Cost £499.99 to buy my Miele washing machine new eight years ago; it's never missed a beat. The previous Zanussi washer-dryer was £600 in 1990 and lasted 13 years; my best mate, who had a retail audio/video/appliance outlet at the time, advised against another Zanussi as the quality wasn't as good at that time.
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The cheapest Miele washing machine at John Lewis with a two year guarantee is £719. The cheapest with a 5 guarantee year is £919 and the cheapest with a 10 year guarantee is a massive £2,539.
Seems a better strategy to me to buy their own brand machine for £299 with 3 year guarantee and chuck it and replace when anything serious goes wrong out of guarantee.
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£300 for a m/c with 3/5 yrs warranty?
Buy a £180 entry level Zanussi or whatever and put the £120 in a bank account as a deposit to the next one.
OR
Buy 2 x £180 m/cs and put one in the garage for future use.
Our £150 Makro special Zanussi in 2001 is still purring away as we speak.
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Gorenje is a small (by white goods standards) manufacturer of white goods based in Slowenia.
Haier is a huge Chinese manufacturer of white goods who actually have a factory in Italy and R&D facilities in Germany these days.
Beko is a Turkish white goods manufacturer and part of the unfortunately named Arcelik empire. The name always reminds of a song by Peter Gabriel.
My last washing machine was a Siemens which cost 400 Euros and gave up the ghost at 10 years old, almost to the day. I replaced it with a Bosch machine, also costing 400 Euros.
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FWIW
most machines brands are covered by only a few actual manufactureres
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Electrolux: own AEG, Tricity Bendix, Zanussi. The Electrolux group also make the John Lewis brand washing machines.
Merloni (Italian) : own Ariston, Indesit, New World, Philco, Hotpoint, Creda, Cannon, GDA, English Electric,Thorn
Candy: own Hoover, Zerowatt and Kelvinator among others
BSH : own Siemens and Bosch (and Neff, Gaggenau )
and Whirlpool makes the IKEA branded appliances.
I would also agree with the philosophy of buy the cheapest sub- £200 machine that meets your requirement in terms of programmes and simply replace it if and when it goes wrong.
I know people paying £12 a month for service contracts/extended warranties (ie they are effectively paying the equivalent of a new machine every 15 months with nothing to show for it) and if you don't have this type of deal the callout and repairs charges can be as much as a new cheap machine.
J
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Don't spend too much - it looks like you won't need a washing machine soon!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16225050
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Uncommon washing machine brands - rtj70
