Non-motoring > Dealing with Train ticket dodgers	Miscellaneous
Thread Author: BobbyG	Replies: 34

Sun 11 Dec 11 22:30   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - BobbyG

www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKKADFIEX84&feature=share Reply to this message | Report message       3

Sun 11 Dec 11 22:39   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - Badwolf

Serves the arrogant little scrote right. Trouble is, too many courts would convict the chap that threw him off for assault. Personally, I'd shake him by the hand and buy him a pint. Reply to this message | Report message

Sun 11 Dec 11 22:41   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - R.P.

Second time I've heard the term "bawbag" in a week (and I know what it means !) Reply to this message | Report message

Sun 11 Dec 11 23:50   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - VxFan

Glad that version came with subtitles. The version I saw earlier didn't. Reply to this message | Report message

Mon 12 Dec 11 00:14   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - Ted

Good man...more wanted. I was on a train with a pal from work doing a ' rail rover ' of the North West. Long time ago now. Facing us, on the other side of the aisle was a pretty young Chinese girl , student probly. Behind her sat a rough middle-aged man, drunk, who kept putting his head over the seat back and propositioning her loudly. We could see she was getting uncomfortable and I was just on the verge of getting up and offering a seat swap when a chap, broad scouser about 70, 5'6" but built like the proverbial, dragged the drunk from his seat, pinned him by the entrance door and threw him off the train at the next stop. Runcorn East IIRC. Lots of swearing from drunk but our scouser kept his cool and did the job without any help. I think there are quite a lot of folk about who would rise to the occasion like that . Ted Reply to this message | Report message

Mon 12 Dec 11 06:56   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - Manatee

That was a severe breach of his human rights, Ted. Nobody should be abandoned in Runcorn. Reply to this message | Report message

Mon 12 Dec 11 08:15   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - Meldrew

I use East Coast a lot. They have the usual male and female "Revenue Enforcement Operatives" but from time to time the job is carried out by tough looking men wearing one piece overalls and big leather belts with pepper spray, handcuffs and truncheons. Perhaps to deal with the "North of Newcastle" passengers? Reply to this message | Report message

Mon 12 Dec 11 08:17   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - Old Navy

This lot work in pairs, do not discuss fare dodging, (see transit officers powers) and tickets are sometimes checked on trains by armed police. That stroppy kids feet would not have touched the ground on his journey off the train. www.transperth.wa.gov.au/TicketsandFares/Infringements.aspx Reply to this message | Report message

Mon 12 Dec 11 09:36   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - Duncan

The stroppy kid, had of course, ridden that far without a ticket. So far as we could see, there was no penalty, other than being ejected from the train. Some would say, that's a result - nearly home at no cost! Reply to this message | Report message

Mon 12 Dec 11 16:06   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - mikeyb

>> The stroppy kid, had of course, ridden that far without a ticket. So far as >> we could see, there was no penalty, other than being ejected from the train. >> >> Some would say, that's a result - nearly home at no cost! >> Not so sure - here its quite difficult to exit the station without a ticket, and I would guess that could trigger a fine???? Reply to this message | Report message

Mon 12 Dec 11 09:38   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - Meldrew

Good stuff, if it is enforced! Feet on the seats really annoys me! I think a $100 fine for carrying a felt tip marker pen is a bit harsh (last item on the list) but the rest looks firm but fair. Reply to this message | Report message

Mon 12 Dec 11 10:21   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - Zero

I like the fact that, having a cycle on board outside permitted hours carries the same maximum penalty as an illegal firearm. Reply to this message | Report message

Mon 12 Dec 11 14:30   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - Old Navy

>> Good stuff, if it is enforced! >> I assure you it is, I have seen it in action. You can forget pleading Human Rights if you break the rules. My Scottish bus pass doesn't work either! :( Last edited by: Old Navy on Mon 12 Dec 11 at 14:31 Reply to this message | Report message

Mon 12 Dec 11 15:31   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - Bigtee

Every month staff magazine comes out and a few scroates have been prosecuted for fair evasion on Northern Rail usually for no more than £2.50 fair and a £500.00 fine nice. :-) BTP British Transport Police come into stations and throw them off as do Network Rail security. It's every day life i see it i love it. Reply to this message | Report message

Mon 12 Dec 11 23:27   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - Ted

I changed from the Altrincham tram to my home branch at Cornbrook last week. There were a good dozen Metrolink inspectors on the platform, together with four uniformed police. I was asked for my pass/ticket as I got off the tram and was pleased to show him my ' twirly ' pass. I think they catch a lot on the Metro. Ted Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 14 Dec 11 17:51   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - Westpig

>> Second time I've heard the term "bawbag" in a week (and I know what it >> means !) Can I presume it's what a Londoner would call a 'scrote'? Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 14 Dec 11 18:01   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - Armel Coussine

>> Can I presume it's what a Londoner would call a 'scrote'? Heh heh... I wondered the same thing Wp. I think we may have it right. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 13 Dec 11 23:51   Good Samaritan? - Mr. Ecs

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-16143909 Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 13 Dec 11 23:54   Good Samaritan? - rtj70

www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?f=5&t=8890 Is that not a discussion of the same? Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 13 Dec 11 23:55   Good Samaritan? - Mr. Ecs

Sorry if its the same. Feel feel to delete post mods. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 14 Dec 11 01:35   Good Samaritan? - VxFan

Moved to the existing thread as it's a follow up to the original post. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 14 Dec 11 08:08   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - John H

Big man and yob on Scotrail identified. The family of a suspected teenage “fare dodger” who was thrown off a train by a vigilante called yesterday for the man to be charged with assault. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2073660/ www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/8953591/Train-vigilante-should-face-assault-charge.html Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 14 Dec 11 08:31   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - R.P.

The father spoke on that dreadful Jeremy Vine's programme yesterday - right bleater, took exception too his son being called a "ned" (some form of Scots abuse) but made no apology for the searing of his son. "they all talk like that don't they" apparently some sort of student - probably some media studies course. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 14 Dec 11 10:40   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - Focusless

>> probably some media studies course. Surveying, according to the DM story. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 14 Dec 11 17:27   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - henry k

Complaint over man who threw 'fare-dodger' off train www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-16177725 Well that was pedictable and the excuses. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 14 Dec 11 18:39   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - zookeeper

apparently the scrote is diabetic and had been drinking...i hope his doctor throws him through the door when he finds out aswell Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 21 Dec 11 16:26   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - Falkirk Bairn

BT Police charge "Big Man" and "fare dodger" www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-16288101 I feel a contribution to the Big Man's defence expenses are needed. Reply to this message | Report message       2

Wed 21 Dec 11 18:01   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - Westpig

He needs a decent lawyer Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 21 Dec 11 18:07   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - CGNorwich

I'd say he was almost certainly guilty of assault. The fare dodger posed no physical threat to him and indeed no physical threat to anyone else. Hard to see what defence he could have for manhandling a stranger and throwing him from a train. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 8 Feb 12 18:00   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - R.P.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-16954147 Common sense prevails. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 8 Feb 12 18:05   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - Zero

I assume they though that if he was on trial at crown court (or what ever the jock version is) the jury would never convict him in a month of sundays. I know a jury should have no reference to press, but its too late. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 8 Feb 12 21:06   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - Lygonos

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_law#Criminal_courts There ya go Zeddo. Would be a Sheriff Court for assault usually - maximum sentence 12 mths or 5 yrs depending if just the Sheriff or Sheriff and Jury involved. Anything likely to require a sentence greater is heard in High Court. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 8 Feb 12 21:35   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - Falkirk Bairn

£10.00 towards his (The Big Man's) legal costs saved Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 9 Feb 12 11:15   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - Westpig

>> Would be a Sheriff Court for assault usually - maximum sentence 12 mths or 5 >> yrs depending if just the Sheriff or Sheriff and Jury involved. >> >> Anything likely to require a sentence greater is heard in High Court. >> If it's like the English system...the defendant can choose if he/she wants a jury trial in the higher court...and as already stated he'd may well have been wise to do so..so the expense of it all and likely outcome may well have been a factor. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 9 Feb 12 12:34   Dealing with Train ticket dodgers - Dutchie

Not paying a fare isn't the right thing to do but the cost of travelling on a train in the UK? Trowing this kid off the train don't know.The lads attitude should have been different to he conductor.Why didn't the conductor let the lad explain the cock-up? Reply to this message | Report message