Last winter SWM and meself caught just about the worse flu either of us have ever experienced, we do not want a repeat of that thankyou.
SWM had pleurisy a few years ago...idiot doctor we had at the time misdiagnosed but that's another story...and since then anything she gets attacks her lungs.
She enquired about flu jabs at our sugary today, not a chance, so she's booked us both in at Boots @ £12.99 apiece.
Now i know you lot are tight as duck's bits so wots the score with getting the jabs bogoff or the like, and no witch doctors ta.
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I saw my doctor yesterday about my BP regime and at the end of that he asked if I would like a flu jab, there & then!
He looked a tad surprised when I answered in the negative.
The only time I ever had a flu jab it made me ill - with flu! I have eschewed them ever since.
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Years ago, when I wasn't entitled to a flu jab, as I was too young my GP always found me one. This was usually because he got a number of doses in for the OAPs on his list and several of them didn't turn up.
That said, if your wife is in a risk category, and she sounds thought she might be, then she should be entitled to one on that basis. I rejected the pure swine flu jab 2 years ago because of the really bad reported side effects. I have had the current jab for 11 years with no side effects and never had flu but I can't prove there is a connection!
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>> I rejected the pure swine flu jab 2 years ago because of the really bad reported side
>>effects. I have had the current jab for 11 years with no side effects and never had flu
>>but I can't prove there is a connection!
The "current jab" is different every year, and this year's includes H5N1. Don't understand what you mean.
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Any slight discomfort from a jab will be as nothing if you catch flu. A lot of people who have never had flu think it something like a bad cold. It's not, it's is a severe illness which will leave you completely incapacitated for a week and from which you will take a month to fully recover.
I have had flu twice in my life and I never want it again. If I were you Roger I would re-think my decision. Like GB got a jab booked though at Morrissons
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Our GPs are contacting all that are entitled to have the jab.
( there may be a bonus payment behind this ?)
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Yes, and not a bad thing actually. It is not unknown to have one's blood pressure taken when consulting about an ingrowing toe-nail etc. There is a bonus for taking the blood pressure of x% of the patients on the list and that also is not a bad thing.
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Appointment with practice nurse next Saturday for flu jab.
No charge, offered to all patients who fit into their definition of 'at risk'.
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>> bogoff or the like, and no witch doctors ta.
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Exactly.
Healthy lifestyle, healthy eating, and then just take your chances.
Apart from the possibility of side effects, they can't know that the vacine you get will cope with new varieties of flu.
If it's an old one, you get immunity by exposure, if it's a new one with your name on it, it will get you anyway.
Worrying about illnesses makes you more likely to get them. :)
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Cliff is right. This year's vaccine was made in Feb/March based on the expert's best guess of what strain of flu would be around in November.
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Thanks for the replies chaps, SWM didn't mention the Pleurisy so that might be worth a revisit for her, it's possible it's not on the doctor's notes as the idiot doctor of the time diagnosed it as a pulled muscle, it was only when i took her to the keydoc surgery at the hospital that she had a correct diagnosis....the keydoc actually diagnosed it over the phone as classic Pleurisy symptoms before examining her properly.
By the way our idiot doctor examined her by looking at her from his throne, when we moved sugaries we found out we were just two of hundreds that had made the same move.
>> Worrying about illnesses makes you more likely to get them. :)
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Quite likely CP and we do eat well don't smoke or drink either.
I've never felt so ill in all my life as that bout, we both thought one of us might not make it...unable to breath combined with uncontrollable coughing and the usual aches and seizures, something SWM doesn't need.
Any more thoughts?
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>>I've never felt so ill in all my life as that bout, we both thought one of us might not make it...unable to breath combined with uncontrollable coughing and the usual aches and seizures, something SWM doesn't need. Any more thoughts?<<
My thoughts are that you quite possibly had swine flu last winter by the sounds of it.
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>> My thoughts are that you quite possibly had swine flu last winter by the sounds
>> of it.
We did think the same D, without exaggeration there were times when the coughing nearly rendered us unconcious, SWM had to sleep sitting up, i had to sleep on my tummy.
hehe, SWMBO's just found out Asda do the jab at £8....;)....nah she's on the phone to them as we speak and it's £7.
That's it we're nipping half a mile to Asda and nearly bogoff....:-)
Thanks all.
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"and then just take your chances."
Good luck!
I'm no hypochondriac but vaccination is such a simple thing and the benefits so potentially great that a punt of £9.50 on a flu jab (cheaper than Boots GB!!!) looks like a bargain (I don't qualify for a free jab either on age or health grounds).
There's always the chance of course that there's a new strain going about but some protection is better than none. This years vaccine includes the H1N1 swine flu strain. In my experience the side effects are non-existent although I know some people get a sore arm for a day or so. Would have had the jab already but due to give blood this week and they won't take it if you have just had a vaccination.
If it wasn't for the discovery of vaccination we would still be dying from smallpox, diptheria,TB ,measles, cholera and God knows what else whatever our lifestyle and however healthy we ate. One of the truly great discoveries of mankind
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punt of £9.50 on a flu jab (cheaper than Boots GB!!!) looks
>> like a bargain
Thanks CGN, not sure if our Morrisons has the facility but local Asda do have a pharmacy so that's a good possibility, will enquire soonest.
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Just been to Asda for the jabs, walked, took the dog too and then for a good romp round the fields after.
£14 the pair of us, nice chap did the business, said this is a dual jab both for the most likely normal and swine flu's.
Bargain.
Aside, the pharmacist was a Sikh and as per normal was charming polite efficient and cheerful.
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When are we gonna see some pics of this blimming dog then gordon??
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>> some pics of this blimming dog then??
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Got SWM on the job at this moment as it were D.
If you listen out the window you might just here my single brain cell fire up as i try to remember which icon to click on photobucket.
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Had flu-jab recently and felt quite off for a day or so - legs tired. On a vaguely related note (well someone else has had BP issue) was an out-patient at hospital recently, for follow-up on a scan which turned out to be normal. On reporting to reception, nurse said follow me for BP check and weighing. Was quite put-out and shirty when I declined:) The basis was that I'd just walked some distance, was slightly apprehensive about the scan, and so it was an unsuitable time. Further, I'd had a 24 hour ambulatory done elsewhere, so no point. Doubly no point as it seems to be well known medically that isolated BP checks are pretty useless. I suppose it was on a list of "things to be done" whether useful or not. There was a bit of muttering behind the desk. No doubt the medical notes have been marked!
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I was had a BP test (despite protests) after riding 160 miles on a motorbike....."slightly raised" was the comment.
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Which was what would be expected. Why do they bother? Mind you "slightly raised" can cover a wide range. Mine goes up to 160/95 or so when under the beady eye, but is normal (110/70) at times:)
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Known as "white coat syndrome' - the anxiety of being in in a medical situation automatically increase the blood pressure for a lot of people.
My brother was diagnosed with high blood pressure several years ago but his new doctor has given him a device which measures blood pressure throughout the day and his blood pressure now deemed to be OK.
Mind you I could have told them that - he will never watch anything remotely medical on the TV and I have seen him faint when cutting himself shaving!
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Here we go if this works, one dog barking mad.
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oh and a proper car on proper winter tyres...;)
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Nice photos them - see Humph already snowing, told you ! :-)
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Got the flu jab + pneumonia jab this morning.
In/out in 5 minutes which was good.
Surgery could have been a snap of God's waiting room - old, older (like me), walking wounded and the patients were old as well.
Both arms now sore.............
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flu jabs cant make you ill, the vaccine is not living ....your immune system reacts to the vaccine building your defences
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Wonderful dog gb (and the benz isn't too bad either) the Visla is not un-like the Rhodesian Ridgeback in many ways,
Our R/R is 11 now and about the same build as your youngen.
Quite an old breed of dog I see (on wiki) old as in over 1000 years!
Thanks for posting the pics.
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>> Our R/R is 11 now and about the same build as your youngen.
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And about 3 times the size and weight, lovely dogs too.
The Vizsla is surprisingly small and light, the smallest of the pointers, but boundless energy.
Poor little blighter is just getting over her second phantom pregnancy, she's as daft as a box of frogs anyway and this isn't helping her.
We toyed with letting her have one litter but have decided against so planned off to the vet in January for spaying, not putting her through another season followed by phantom unless we let her have a litter.
As i type she's on her chair cuddled up fast alseep with her favourite blanket beside us having just scoffed half a cow and a lamb bone earlier all raw, the blanket appears to be her puppy during this phase, she trots around with it held gently in her teeth wagging herself silly.
The waggings quite funny really, her whole body wiggles.
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"The waggings quite funny really, her whole body wiggles"
Yeah, like a canine slinky.
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A charming description of your sleeping dog GB! There is a Vizla living near me - good looking hound and very attractive colour, sort of biscuit come coffee and busy but obedient and well trained.
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Ah! - so you spoil her like we spoiled Milo, when he was a pup he was underweight (still is) and boy did he hate the cold (still does) up on Bodmin Moor, I took him into the annexe we had then and (between thee and I) let him sleep snuggled up between my thighs for warmth!
When he was older I let him sleep on the red leather sofa, and in time he licked all the colour off of it!!
He sleeps on a pet bed in front of the multi-fuel stove now (which I haven't lit yet) he still tries to get up on the sofa but he dribbles from his mouth and leaks from his willy (old age!) so there's no-way we'll let him up on the now fabric covered sofa,
I'll have to post an up-to-date foto of him when we get some sunshine down here (about 6 months time!)
You wouldn't believe he is getting on for 12 years old.
Pity about not letting your Visla have a litter gord, but you've obviously got your reasons.
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Can't believe how much we spoil them - Alf is a little "disturbed" by the new arrival - he takes the rollockings the little one has rather personally - he's been rather tactile with me sitting on my lap and for a big bony hunter-killer that's a little hard.
He is a well endowed lad - but didn't stop the postie mistaking him for the tiddler's mother - doesn't help.
Oh and he took a nip to the nether regions earlier - don't help.
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You're making me come over all broody Rob :)
Some of our names for Milo - Little man, Bubba, Munchie/Munchkin! Bugley, Princey,
Sad? or what!
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Nah....! Zero would probably disagree....
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The house lab, Fifi, gets called "lulu, Woo woo, hunny," all sorts of goo goo names.
The working Malinois get called with caution!
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Ours gets called "You little b........" when he's in the car.
:-)
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They say it can't harm you. Last year it harmed me a great deal, because i was stupid enough to say i was fine when the doc asked if i was well. I got 2 weeks of flu and 4 months of a frozen shoulder from it.
Had it a week ago, and i'm fine this time.
I think to get it free you have to either be over 60 or have serious illness eg asthma
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In Scotland is over 65 or have a 'chronic illness'.
Technically it can also be prescribed by a GP to those outside these groups - the cost of the prescription is £0.00 since charges were abolished.
I have a colleague who generally avoids needles like the plague but after seeing quite a few younger patients look like death-warmed-up last year he has been happy to have a flu-jab.
GP surgeries do get paid for flu jabs, depending upon the numbers given and percentage uptake in target groups (over 65s, and under-65s with chronic illnesses). Works out about £6-£7 per jab given I think.
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It is said that in Scotland, for many people being over 65 is in itself, a chronic illness.
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Not that long, I believe, that a ward in Glasgow had a life expectancy for men at under 60 years.
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Probably the same in a few hospital wards too! Stafford perhaps?
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That was the ward where all the deep fried battered Mars bars were consumed!
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I reckon they're just doing their bit to keep Britain economically viable, not like the home counties and wealthier parts of Scotland where life expectancy is 80yrs or more.
Greedy old sods are bankrupting us with their pensions.
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>> Greedy old sods are bankrupting us with their pensions.
Oh how I wish we were.
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Smoking and drinking should be encouraged among those over about 50. They will pay through the nose and contribute lots of tax on the smokes and booze they consume and they will not draw their pensions for long, if at all.
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I regularly encourage my patients to do both from an early age for the same reason, and to increase the proportion of tax paid by others.
I'm sure many of them suspect I am trying "reverse psychology", but really I'm not....
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I heard through the grapevine that to save the economy, Cameron will announce on November 25th, 2011, that he is ordering the immigration department to start deporting old people (instead of illegals) in order to lower Britain’s Pension Plan and Old Age Security costs.
Old people are easier to catch, and will not remember how to get back home!
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I believe they have a ward where they use poetry to help soothe the mind and therefore ease pain!!
Its the Burns unit.
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My partner's children refer to her kitchen as the Burns Unit although I have no evidence that this is justified!
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Flu jab - Roger.
