Non-motoring > One for our pedants. Miscellaneous
Thread Author: Old Navy Replies: 34

 One for our pedants. - Old Navy
Who have been remarkably quiet recently. :-)

tinyurl.com/6d8552w (Daily Express)
 One for our pedants. - madf
Proper pedants ponder rest in Summer so they can post refreshed in Autumn.

 One for our pedants. - Iffy
...Proper pedants ponder rest in Summer so they can post refreshed in Autumn...

In the spirit of this thread...

The four seasons are ordinary nouns, so do not take a capital letter.


 One for our pedants. - Clk Sec
>>Who have been remarkably quiet recently. :-)

They only surface when you stir them up, ON, and you're doing it again.
:)
 One for our pedants. - Pat
I don't care, the suns shining and the garden is calling.
Pendant away as much as you like:)

Pat
 One for our pedants. - Clk Sec
Do you mean the sun's shining?
:)
 One for our pedants. - Dog
Yet another Dixlectric mi££ionaire then - see what I meen!
 One for our pedants. - Focusless
Dyslexia? I do what he's been picked up on all the time, but that's because I think one thing and type something else. It's not 'bad spelling', as in not knowing how to spell the words, because I usually spot the mistake shortly after sending/posting. And I'm only 46 :(
 One for our pedants. - Pat
*******:)

Pat
 One for our pedants. - Clk Sec
>> *******:)
>> Pat


:-)
 One for our pedants. - Slidingpillar
Twitter is for twits. Enough said!
 One for our pedants. - Dog
>>Twitter is for twits. Enough said!<<

+1
 One for our pedants. - Iffy
...Twitter is for twits. Enough said!<<...

Or in Duncan's case, tiwts.

 One for our pedants. - madf
I carefully composed my reply to exclude the above references to Witter knowing some other pedant would...
Last edited by: madf on Wed 28 Sep 11 at 10:02
 One for our pedants. - FocalPoint
"Who have been remarkably quiet recently."

I suspect I may qualify in most people's eyes as a pedant. I last posted on language matters/correctness etc. on 26th September in this thread:

www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?f=5&t=7951

To be pedantic, I would say that was pretty recent.
 One for our pedants. - WillDeBeest
He said 'quiet', FP, not 'silent'.
}:---)
 One for our pedants. - FocalPoint
He did say "remarkably quiet", in fact. I would say I was quite obstreperous.
 One for our pedants. - madf
"remarkably"?

I would say silence is golden and a quiet pedant is a good pedant.
Last edited by: madf on Wed 28 Sep 11 at 11:50
 One for our pedants. - Iffy
Modern news values make the Bannatyne story undoubtedly a story.

But it takes a brave journalist and newspaper to run it.

You can guarantee there will be a spelling mistake elsewhere in that edition of the Express, if not on the same page.

Careful wording is required, to make it clear the paper is saying other people are criticising Bannatyne's spelling, not us.

 One for our pedants. - FocalPoint
"...the paper is saying other people are criticising Bannatyne's spelling, not us."

You work for the Express?

How disappointing.
 One for our pedants. - madf
>> "...the paper is saying other people are criticising Bannatyne's spelling, not us."
>>
>> You work for the Express?
>>
>> How disappointing.
>>


Nothing wrong with the Express. It's a great newspaper . Stop casting aspersions...



"Great" as in "grate" for lighting fires...
 One for our pedants. - Iffy
..."Great" as in "grate" for lighting fires...

Some people think jibes such as that are clever.

From the publisher's point of view, it matters not why someone buys the paper, the only important thing is they do buy it.





 One for our pedants. - Old Navy
Excellent, I seem to have created a pedant playground. I hope they realise that it is ringfenced. :-)
 One for our pedants. - CGNorwich
Ring-fenced surely.
 One for our pedants. - Clk Sec
Or even ring-fenced, surely.
 One for our pedants. - FocalPoint
"... it matters not why someone buys the paper, the only important thing is they do buy it."

Yes, I've come across this argument and find it morally threadbare.

What it means is this: "If the public will buy crap that's what we'll give them."

And in a democracy who would dare to disagree? The great British public gets the press it deserves.
 One for our pedants. - Cliff Pope

>> Yes, I've come across this argument and find it morally threadbare.
>>


It's not an argument, it's a statement of fact. Facts can't have morals.
 One for our pedants. - FocalPoint
"... it matters not why someone buys the paper, the only important thing is they do buy it."

This is not a statement of fact; it is Iffy's opinion about the raison d'être of the Express. It is a justification of what the paper stands for. As such it is an argument in the sense that it is claiming support for a point of view. That is what is morally threadbare, in my view.
 One for our pedants. - madf
"It is a justification of what the paper stands for. As such it is an argument in the sense that it is claiming support for a point of view. That is what is morally threadbare, in my view."

Only a non pedant would find anything in Iffy's post talking about what the Express stands for. He was concentrating on its purchase, not why people purchase it, nor the morals and principles of the said newspaper management. Papers of course cannot have morals...

(the pedant score is increasing:-)
 One for our pedants. - Iffy
...He was concentrating on its purchase, not why people purchase it...

More than that. the remark was general - 'publishers' - referring to all newspapers.

One or two on here are over-intellectualising, it's no more complicated than saying: 'Tesco seek to sell as many items as they can.'

If long-winded, wordy, worthy articles sold newspapers, you may be sure I would be tasked with writing them.

But such articles don't sell newspapers, they actively put off readers.

The two most successful newspapers in the country are The Sun and the Daily Mail.

The Mail, in particular, seems to arouse the ire of a handful of posters on internet forums, but its readership figures tell the wider story.

If the positions were reversed - millions of critics and a handful of readers - the Mail would shut faster than you can say scoop.

 One for our pedants. - Cliff Pope
To consider a statement "from the publisher's point of view", which is what Iffy said, doesn't even mean the publisher has to actually have an opinion at all, moral or otherwise.

It's like saying "from the polar bear's point of view, all seals are just food".
It's just a fact - polar bears eat seals, Tesco try and sell as much food as possible, newspaper publishers want to sell newspapers.
 One for our pedants. - Ted

>> It's just a fact - polar bears eat seals,

They don't eat Penguins, though ..........'cos they can't get the wrappers off !!

I'll get me coat 'n 'at.

Ted
 One for our pedants. - Focusless
Iffy - there's a job for you here if the reporting dries up :)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9_kahA_wQo
 One for our pedants. - Iffy
Quiet day on the programming front, Focus?

 One for our pedants. - Focusless
>> Quiet day on the programming front, Focus?

...and working from home... :)
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