Non-motoring > One for our pedants.	Miscellaneous
Thread Author: Old Navy	Replies: 34

New Wed 28 Sep 11 07:49   One for our pedants. - Old Navy

Who have been remarkably quiet recently. :-) tinyurl.com/6d8552w (Daily Express) Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 07:56   One for our pedants. - madf

Proper pedants ponder rest in Summer so they can post refreshed in Autumn. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 08:21   One for our pedants. - Iffy

...Proper pedants ponder rest in Summer so they can post refreshed in Autumn... In the spirit of this thread... The four seasons are ordinary nouns, so do not take a capital letter. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 08:21   One for our pedants. - Clk Sec

>>Who have been remarkably quiet recently. :-) They only surface when you stir them up, ON, and you're doing it again. :) Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 08:22   One for our pedants. - Pat

I don't care, the suns shining and the garden is calling. Pendant away as much as you like:) Pat Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 08:25   One for our pedants. - Clk Sec

Do you mean the sun's shining? :) Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 08:33   One for our pedants. - Dog

Yet another Dixlectric mi££ionaire then - see what I meen! Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 08:48   One for our pedants. - Focusless

Dyslexia? I do what he's been picked up on all the time, but that's because I think one thing and type something else. It's not 'bad spelling', as in not knowing how to spell the words, because I usually spot the mistake shortly after sending/posting. And I'm only 46 :( Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 08:52   One for our pedants. - Pat

*******:) Pat Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 08:56   One for our pedants. - Clk Sec

>> *******:) >> Pat :-) Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 09:20   One for our pedants. - Slidingpillar

Twitter is for twits. Enough said! Reply to this message | Report message       1

New Wed 28 Sep 11 09:31   One for our pedants. - Dog

>>Twitter is for twits. Enough said!<< +1 Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 09:43   One for our pedants. - Iffy

...Twitter is for twits. Enough said!<<... Or in Duncan's case, tiwts. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 10:01   One for our pedants. - madf

I carefully composed my reply to exclude the above references to Witter knowing some other pedant would... Last edited by: madf on Wed 28 Sep 11 at 10:02 Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 10:10   One for our pedants. - FocalPoint

"Who have been remarkably quiet recently." I suspect I may qualify in most people's eyes as a pedant. I last posted on language matters/correctness etc. on 26th September in this thread: www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?f=5&t=7951 To be pedantic, I would say that was pretty recent. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 10:57   One for our pedants. - WillDeBeest

He said 'quiet', FP, not 'silent'. }:---) Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 11:32   One for our pedants. - FocalPoint

He did say "remarkably quiet", in fact. I would say I was quite obstreperous. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 11:46   One for our pedants. - madf

"remarkably"? I would say silence is golden and a quiet pedant is a good pedant. Last edited by: madf on Wed 28 Sep 11 at 11:50 Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 12:00   One for our pedants. - Iffy

Modern news values make the Bannatyne story undoubtedly a story. But it takes a brave journalist and newspaper to run it. You can guarantee there will be a spelling mistake elsewhere in that edition of the Express, if not on the same page. Careful wording is required, to make it clear the paper is saying other people are criticising Bannatyne's spelling, not us. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 12:03   One for our pedants. - FocalPoint

"...the paper is saying other people are criticising Bannatyne's spelling, not us." You work for the Express? How disappointing. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 12:09   One for our pedants. - madf

>> "...the paper is saying other people are criticising Bannatyne's spelling, not us." >> >> You work for the Express? >> >> How disappointing. >> Nothing wrong with the Express. It's a great newspaper . Stop casting aspersions... "Great" as in "grate" for lighting fires... Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 12:28   One for our pedants. - Iffy

..."Great" as in "grate" for lighting fires... Some people think jibes such as that are clever. From the publisher's point of view, it matters not why someone buys the paper, the only important thing is they do buy it. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 13:54   One for our pedants. - Old Navy

Excellent, I seem to have created a pedant playground. I hope they realise that it is ringfenced. :-) Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 16:57   One for our pedants. - CGNorwich

Ring-fenced surely. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 17:05   One for our pedants. - Clk Sec

Or even ring-fenced, surely. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 14:36   One for our pedants. - FocalPoint

"... it matters not why someone buys the paper, the only important thing is they do buy it." Yes, I've come across this argument and find it morally threadbare. What it means is this: "If the public will buy crap that's what we'll give them." And in a democracy who would dare to disagree? The great British public gets the press it deserves. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 15:52   One for our pedants. - Cliff Pope

>> Yes, I've come across this argument and find it morally threadbare. >> It's not an argument, it's a statement of fact. Facts can't have morals. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 16:01   One for our pedants. - FocalPoint

"... it matters not why someone buys the paper, the only important thing is they do buy it." This is not a statement of fact; it is Iffy's opinion about the raison d'être of the Express. It is a justification of what the paper stands for. As such it is an argument in the sense that it is claiming support for a point of view. That is what is morally threadbare, in my view. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 17:28   One for our pedants. - madf

"It is a justification of what the paper stands for. As such it is an argument in the sense that it is claiming support for a point of view. That is what is morally threadbare, in my view." Only a non pedant would find anything in Iffy's post talking about what the Express stands for. He was concentrating on its purchase, not why people purchase it, nor the morals and principles of the said newspaper management. Papers of course cannot have morals... (the pedant score is increasing:-) Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 18:21   One for our pedants. - Iffy

...He was concentrating on its purchase, not why people purchase it... More than that. the remark was general - 'publishers' - referring to all newspapers. One or two on here are over-intellectualising, it's no more complicated than saying: 'Tesco seek to sell as many items as they can.' If long-winded, wordy, worthy articles sold newspapers, you may be sure I would be tasked with writing them. But such articles don't sell newspapers, they actively put off readers. The two most successful newspapers in the country are The Sun and the Daily Mail. The Mail, in particular, seems to arouse the ire of a handful of posters on internet forums, but its readership figures tell the wider story. If the positions were reversed - millions of critics and a handful of readers - the Mail would shut faster than you can say scoop. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 22:55   One for our pedants. - Cliff Pope

To consider a statement "from the publisher's point of view", which is what Iffy said, doesn't even mean the publisher has to actually have an opinion at all, moral or otherwise. It's like saying "from the polar bear's point of view, all seals are just food". It's just a fact - polar bears eat seals, Tesco try and sell as much food as possible, newspaper publishers want to sell newspapers. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 28 Sep 11 23:47   One for our pedants. - Ted

>> It's just a fact - polar bears eat seals, They don't eat Penguins, though ..........'cos they can't get the wrappers off !! I'll get me coat 'n 'at. Ted Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 29 Sep 11 16:43   One for our pedants. - Focusless

Iffy - there's a job for you here if the reporting dries up :) www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9_kahA_wQo Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 29 Sep 11 18:18   One for our pedants. - Iffy

Quiet day on the programming front, Focus? Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 29 Sep 11 20:00   One for our pedants. - Focusless

>> Quiet day on the programming front, Focus? ...and working from home... :) Reply to this message | Report message