A family on benefits have been allowed to rent a £2m house for £2k per week in London.
The Telegraph story is here: tinyurl.com/3puefh5
What is really annoying is that I cannot find the story in either the Mirror or the Guardian.
I find it horrifying that the rent is more than 5 times my weekly pay and I don't quality for any benefits save for the standard minimum child benefit!
No wonder the benefits system is derided.
My views on a social safety net are probably left of centre, but I find this is horrendous and is depriving many needy people of decent living standards.
Please do not make this about race!
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Socialism is about creating inequalities that punish hard work and benefit those people the establishment wants to be seen to help. They just pick different people to be rich.
Whats more amazing is that anyone is at all suprised.
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What has this got to do with socialism?I have seen these 2million pound houses in London.
Overpriced and overrated.
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There are houses near me that go for £1m+. Rattle will know about this area of south Manchester. £2m in London sounds cheap for a good sized property in an okay area.
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I said this area. Rats is not far away, Some crazy prices between my area and his!
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Not sure there is that much in it, many larger 5 bed properties on the right roads will easily fetch £500k here.
A four bedroom house in Chorlton for £720,000 here.
www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-34487621.html
Another one here, in Chorltonville offers over £500k
www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-30302035.html
This on a busy main road too, 3 bed terrace, £350,000
www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-30035344.html?premiumA=true
Ones like my parents now seem to be on the market for £230-£260 but I reckon with the issues this house has they would be lucky to get £180-£200k for it.
My parents nearly bought one of these on this very road for £25k in 1980, they had the money and could have just about afford the mortgage payments but decided it was too big and just a bit of a stretch
www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-34443620.html?premiumA=true
So they took a more sensible option, probably a wise move as they have and do struggle to even afford this place 31 years later.
My grandmas ex council house, which is 3 bedroom would be worth around £150k.
All the above properties are less than ten minute walk away from me.
Last edited by: RattleandSmoke on Tue 16 Aug 11 at 01:24
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South Manchester in general is a lot more expensive than other parts of the city, although even then a similar 4 bedroom house in Ashton to that £720k one will fetch nearly £300k.
It is funny how the Lincolnshire side of the family all thing we are poor because we live in the inner-city of Manchester, yet property in North Lincs is amongst the cheapest in the country.
Of course the reason why south Manchester is so expensive is it is full of Londoners like my dad. The 3 bedroom terraced house he lived in Fullham would be worth just under £1m now although it was more like a 4 bedroom in size.
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As a student I lived on Cross Road in Chorlton. We had no access to the two 'attic rooms' but they are proper rooms - but fire regs.
We paid £22pppw and that was a bargain even then! Cellar was useful but not used much apart from parties.
It last sold in 2005 for nearly £500k!
Last edited by: rtj70 on Tue 16 Aug 11 at 02:03
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Well Ratts I am genuinely shocked by those prices. To me they are absurd for properties of that type.
Regards....Martin.
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>> sign a lease for the six bedroom property despite having no connection with their new area
I've applied for a place on the council housing list to live near my dad, 100 miles from where I'm currently living. I had to provide the housing authority with personal references for HIM - to prove his residency in the house he's lived in for 40 years.
I think he's slighty offended at the thought that he may one day need family living nearby when he starts to find independent living harder, even more so that the fact had to be set down on paper.
The authority there operate a choice-based lettings system, with results published monthly showing the successful bidders' points scores. It turns out that I'm so low on the priority list as to be effectively not on it at all, at least until I either live or work in his district. Trouble is, to fulfil one or other of these criteria (living or working), I'd have to place my family unit in such unsuitable living circumstances as to put ourselves at risk of social services intervention.
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Best of luck getting the council property.
I know of someone from Africa originally. They live somewhere that all would admit is not nice (cheap then Rattle) and have had a car torched outside, dog poo thrown in the window, and all sorts. None of that matters in rehoming them.
The council house system does not currently work IMO. It all went wrong when council properties were sold in the 80s/90s. In my opinion anyway.
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I agree, and it is now causing poverty within people who work full time but earn less than £20k a year.
My grandmas house was a council house, she's lived there for 50 years but she owns it now. The waiting in list in that area is now stupidly large. The only way to get a place there is to have kids in a local school.
Although in council terms it is one of the best parts of Manchester (the Barlow Moor Estate) it is still a lot rougher than say where I live just 1 mile away. You get problems with chavs there, but you don't get problems with dog poo or cars being torched, in fact my grandma touch wood has never been a victim of crime there in all the 50 years, and it is of course on a council estate. It about 40% privately owned now though from what I can tell, which means the people who want council houses have no where to go put the areas where people decided not to use the right to buy.
Getting rid of council houses has created a new generation of people who are living at home, more under 30's live at home now than any time before.
A friend of mine has been offered a council flat as she earns £10k a year after tax, she can't afford to continue renting on the private market, however it is a rough area (the old parts of Hulme which where not regenerated).
Working people don't have the right to own their own property, but should have a right to reasonably priced rented property and that isn't happening, rents are only going to get higher too the more social housing property is sold off.
The strange thing is that people of my parents generation and their friends did everything they could to get out of council property, but now many people of my generation strive to get a council house, because they are sick of being ripped off in the private sector.
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This workie-ticket has to live somewhere.
I suggest that somewhere should be somewhere he speaks the language and feels at home.
Last edited by: Iffy on Tue 16 Aug 11 at 05:17
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>>The strange thing is that people of my parents generation and their friends did
>>everything they could to get out of council property, but now many people of my
>>generation strive to get a council house
Interesting isn't it. The feeling of entitlement that this generation has to being paid for by the state - whereas the previous generation aspired to rise beyond being state funded.
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What I find odd is that the couple and their children moved from Coventry to London. As neither of them apparently speak English I guess their employment prospects are pretty well zero wherever they are. Vis a Vis house prices, my Mother bought a house in Hampstead for £5000 in 1946 and the Government funded repairs to the bomb damaged roof. It has been spilit into 4 flats which have sold for £500K each.
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You mentioned language Meldrew.I find it strange that people are not willing or able?to learn the language of the country people reside in.
On board we used to give Spanish crew two years to learn to speak reasonable Dutch.Which I think is ample time if there is a interest.I find it embarrassing that our national football coach barely speaks English.Oh well he is Italian:)
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£2m home for someone on benefits - Stuu
