Does anyone have any experience of Bullmastiffs? This would be my first dog, and while i've grown up with dogs i've never taken responsibility for training one before. My old man, and my grandpa, both have good track records in that respect and i reckon with their guidance i could be a pretty good dog owner with respect for boundaries. It's the choice of dog side of the equation i'm wrestling with.
Neither of them have owned bullmastiffs and i'm trying to get an idea if this breed might be suitable as a first dog. For example, it wouldn't be fair to the dog for me to take on a Rottweiler having seen first hand how hard some can be. Labrador i think is a safe choice (destructive puppy stage excepted), and a few of our dogs have been labs, kind of set on a Bullmastiff for various reasons though.
T'internet's good to a point, although more around the choosing, caring for and living with rather than training side of things and digging for experience type material, it's a bit thin and often no more than "we've had a bullmastiff for X years, and (s)he's been great!"
Will also register on a dog forum (any recommendations?).
Goes without saying (but maybe it shouldn't) thanks in advance!
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we have an english mastiff and he is fantastic, calm and extremely hungry all the time.
he now wieghs in at 16stone and still growing. we didnt like the look of the bullmastiff but the proper pedigree english mastif is a very nice dog.
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The best dogs I've ever had have been rescue ones. I'd never consider a thoroughbred, or any type of dog with an aggressive reputation - too many children around.
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We had English bull terriers and some mastiffs when I was a kid. Daft as a brush the lot of them. Jack Russells too, but they're really easy to trip over, being the size of a rat and all! All mongrels, really, no purebreeds.
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some bullmastiffs have shown aggression i think but english mastiffs and my great danes are the softest dogs we have ever kept.
the only thing we have to watch out for is their tails are like heavy whips and some unwary children can be whipped in the face but they soon learn
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These dogs are big and powerfull.Breed orginated from the Phoeniciers bc.
The Bull Mastiff is a cross between a Bulldog and a Mastiff.They are one man dogs with that I mean they bond to one person.Height and weight max about 68 cm weight between 50 and 59 kilo's.The Bull mastiff looks leaner than the Mastiff.
The advantage of bying a breed is that you know what you are getting.Go to a reconized breeder and learn about the dog before you buy.Mastiff Bull Mastiff Bordeaux dog.The Bordeaux dog looks very similair to the Bullmastiff.Problaby a Keltish Breed.They used to fight with each other or bears and wolves.Nothing wrong with a Rotweiler they need a firm hand like all big dogs.One of my favorite breeds the Bullterrier.
He stands like a boxer:firm active and keen.
With his punishing jaw,long, powerfull and clean
He's up on his toes,all ready to go.
Like the flash of a gun,to meet playmate or foe.
He's as strong as a bulldog,as fast as a deer,
There's no dog with the dash of the White Cavalier.Cross between Bulldog and Terrier.
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>>There's no dog with the dash of the White Cavalier.Cross between Bulldog and Terrier<<
Is that the english bull terrier, me ole Dutch?
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Yes Dog the English Bull Terrier.Love one nearly got a 6 month old bitch a few months ago.
The missus stopped me,i will get my way eventually.;)
Last edited by: VxFan on Wed 22 Jun 11 at 19:18
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>> B i t c h
Same to you, with brass knobs on ;o)
ps, edited your post where the filter kicked in.
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>>The missus stopped me,i will get my way eventually.;)<<
Poot ya foot down M8 :) ... I likes em as well Dutchie AND there's a bleeder near me in Cornwall.
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I will Dog she's been poorly this week flu I think .I have been running between two houses.Daughter is on holiday so I am looking after her cats.
Hoovering making tea I'm knackered.:)
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I saw a beauty in France pure white lovely face and well cared for .The trouble with these breeds if they fall in the wrong hands.Look at the American pitbull.
These thugs who let them fight in the ring is beyond me.Saw once a program on the telly .Sickening the injuries.All animals all they need is love and care.Its very simple.
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Call me a big soft girl but how anyone could hurt a dog or make it fight is beyond me.
I will say though, a bull mastiff is very heavy if it tries to sit on your knee while you're watching telly!
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Nasty things - dogs.
Cats are nice, though!
(Puts on tin hat!)
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>>.The trouble with these breeds if they fall in the wrong hands.Look at the American pitbull<<
Reminds me of when we lived in st leonards on sea (e.sus-sex) in 87-92, I saw some 'merchants' down on the beach underneath the pier with their dog hanging by it's jaws from a rope, I wondered what on earth they were doing, course - I know now!!
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its still the same in st leonards. when we lived there a few yrs ago a group of people were allowing their dogs to fight on the seafront in front of warrior square.
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>>its still the same in st leonards<<
It was run down 20 years ago, shame really, but these Victorian era sea-front towns have had their day, alas.
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Skoda,
Are there - or will there be - any mini-Skodas?
A big dog, and certainly one which can be aggressive, is a very, very poor idea if there are children in the house.
There are numerous cases of outwardly well-kept and well-balanced dogs which, for no apparent reason, flip, and decide to have the nearest child for lunch.
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>>A big dog, and certainly one which can be aggressive, is a very, very poor idea if there are children in the house<<
Well meaning advice my venerated friend - but wrong.
Any dog has the potential to be dangerous, t'other day a Labrador tried to remove a child's face :(
The answer, with any dog, is proper training & socialization.
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...the answer, with any dog, is proper training & socialization....
No it isn't.
Many of the dogs which attack children are properly trained and socialised.
That's why the owners leave them alone with the children in the first place.
I've been to court cases in which a dog is on death row.
"Gnasher wouldn't hurt a fly," pleads the owner, as the court is shown pictures of a toddler with 30 stitches in its face.
Any dog, like any human, can flip without warning.
It may be rare, but that's no consolation if it's your child that's maimed, and it's you in court.
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>>That's why the owners leave them alone with the children in the first place<<
I've owned dogs since I was 8 years old including Doberman, GSD and R. Ridgeback, plus smaller breeds like the C. Spaniel, Poodle (Shhhh!) and all manner of Heinz 57 varieties from Battersea dogs home,
I would advise anyone never to leave a child alone with a dog - any dog, large or small,
I'm not apportioning blame here but - a dog will rarely if ever attack anyone without a reason, and some small children can quite unknowingly be spiteful, or rough, or startle a dog while being playful, leading to in certain circumstances, the horrific and sometimes fatal results we sadly hear about all too often.
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...a dog will rarely if ever attack anyone without a reason, and some small children can quite unknowingly be spiteful, or rough...
When I was a child on the farm, one of the sheepdogs gave me quite a nasty bite - there's still a small scar beside my right eye.
A couple of people saw it happen and were able to tell my mother I had been teasing the dog.
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>>When I was a child on the farm, one of the sheepdogs gave me quite a nasty bite - there's still a small scar beside my right eye<<
Ah, well - they be Collies, chuck, ... funnily enough, I was talking to postie this morning about dogs n' I said "don't worry about my Ridgeback, it's dem J. Russells & Y. Terrors you wanna worry about".
No he says - it's only B. Collies and (surprisingly) G. Retrievers he's ever had trouble with.
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>> ...the answer, with any dog, is proper training & socialization....
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>> No it isn't.
Yes it is
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>> Many of the dogs which attack children are properly trained and socialised
No they are not. If they were they wouldn't attack the kids would they
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>> That's why the owners leave them alone with the children in the first place.
Because they are crap parents who can't look after dogs or kids
>> I've been to court cases in which a dog is on death row.
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>> "Gnasher wouldn't hurt a fly," pleads the owner, as the court is shown pictures of
>> a toddler with 30 stitches in its face
Dogs don't flip, dogs get aggressive because they are scared frightened or nervous, and that's down to ownership and training
The owner is lying clearly
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>> Any dog, like any human, can flip without warning.
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>> It may be rare, but that's no consolation if it's your child that's maimed, and
>> it's you in court.
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>> The answer, with any dog, is proper training & socialization.
Yes. I don't think any dog in the park where I work has ever tried to attack someone, only the occasional spat with other dogs. But you're probably seeing the most cared for examples - regularly exercised and as you say socialised with the general public. Next door to us have a doberman that isn't exercised enough, and isn't used to other people. It gets frustrated - the guy takes it out in the van and he's back within 15-20 mins. No good, you have to get out for a proper walk with them, and they love you for it.
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We have had three Dobies, all rescued as the previous owners hadn't done their research prior to getting the dogs. They were all bought as status or fashion accessories and became difficult to handle. A fault I blame on both the owners and the breeders.
Our last one was kept in a flat all day while the owner was at work. She became quite nasty and started eating the flat. Once we had her at home for a while she was a well natured, lovely dog although a bit of a harmless hooligan and food thief.
As we both work from home she was a lot happier having company for most of the day, either laying at my feet at my desk or sitting behind my wife while cooking. They all needed at least two free runs of an hour each a day, until they got quite elderly.
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>> Skoda,
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>> Are there - or will there be - any mini-Skodas?
Yeah it's a fair point, there will be at some point. Not aiming for a sprog right now but it could happen.
I'm in no rush for dog or sprog so we'll play things by ear. Also got the cat to be mindful of, don't want him deciding he'd be better heading off for pastures new (he has a family further down the street wound round his little paw already).
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>> we have an english mastiff and he is fantastic
The English Mastiff is a *really* nice dog, i just worry about the size!
I think we could probably just about accommodate one, but what if we're out for a walk somewhere and he gets into difficulty, i reckon i could carry a bullmastiff if i had to but an english mastiff, i don't think i could even lift into the back of the car in old age. They typically weigh about the same as me! A lot more in some cases.
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>> i don't think i could even lift
>> into the back of the car in old age. They typically weigh about the same
>> as me! A lot more in some cases.
You'll have to give up that VRS. It'll chew the interior to bits. A nice Volvo estate with a dog guard and a ramp will be just the ticket.
:}
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...and some corduroys and a flat cap what?
:-)
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Being totally ignorant of bullmastiffs I did a quick Google and got this:-
www.bullmastiffinfo.org/breed.htm
They sound like a big responsibility - not for me, but then each to his own! Lots of pros and cons!
Good luck! And happy slobber wiping!!
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corduroys? Did you mean Manchester trousers thats what we used to call them.;)
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I forgot the name of the film with actor Tom Hanks a Bull Mastiff played a big part.
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>> ...and some corduroys and a flat cap what?
Heh heh, I tried a flat cap on in an agricultural retailers and it aged me about 20 years. Look best with a pair of proper lamb chops.
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>> You'll have to give up that VRS. It'll chew the interior to bits. A nice
>> Volvo estate with a dog guard and a ramp will be just the ticket.
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Haha, i'll speak nice to Dave on here and see if he'll knock me up one of his finest fitted boot kennels :-)
It's that or a "hatch bag" www.hatchbag.co.uk/page.php?xPage=bootliner
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