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New Wed 26 Jan 11 10:30

Not just cars un road worthy. - Bigtee

But ships this lot was stopped and inpounded by the coastguard read down the list near the bottom of the list of faults.

hmcoastguard.blogspot.com/2011/01/7-foreign-ships-under-detention-in-uk.html

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New Wed 26 Jan 11 10:34

Not just cars un road worthy. - MD

Quite worrying really.

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New Wed 26 Jan 11 10:47

Not just cars un road worthy. - Cliff Pope

It's hardly the awful list the title suggests.

Ship's plating wafer thin and holed when inspector tapped it?
Navigation lights not working?
Inadequate attachment of upperworks to hull?
Reverse gear inopperative?
No insurance?
Captain's qualifications found to be bogus?

I've been guilty of sometimes failing to provide sufficient fruit and vegetables too.

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New Wed 26 Jan 11 10:41

Not just cars un road worthy. - Alanovich

Here we go again. :-(

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New Wed 26 Jan 11 10:50

Not just cars un road worthy. - sooty123

Not really surprising a lot of shipping with poor standards around the world, mainly flying flags of convenience.

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New Wed 26 Jan 11 10:57

Not just cars un road worthy. - Iffy

...Here we go again. :-(...

Quite right, these ships are under a foreign flag, the Maritime and Coastguard Agency should pretend the faults don't exist.

Far better to be dishonest than risk offending the Guardianistas.

And the most stupid thing is I doubt the ship owners (the foreigners) could care less.

They couldn't care about their ship and its crew, so I doubt a ticking off by a few coastguard fellas from another country is going to worry them over much.

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New Wed 26 Jan 11 11:03

Not just cars un road worthy. - Alanovich

Good grief. Staggering.

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New Wed 26 Jan 11 11:13

Not just cars un road worthy. - Bellboy

bit of oil here and there
some gas cylinders in wrong demarcation zone
its like here i see the fire brigade 4 times a year lately
maybe over staffing levels mean faults found to justify jobs?

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New Wed 26 Jan 11 11:21

Not just cars un road worthy. - Alanovich

Don't be daft, Bellboy. It's the foreigners. They're going to get us all killed.

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New Wed 26 Jan 11 11:24

Not just cars un road worthy. - Bellboy

dont go on an old steamer then ;-)

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New Wed 26 Jan 11 11:34

Not just cars un road worthy. - Iffy

Facts is facts.

The faults were found, they've been dealt with, or not in the case of the ships still detained.

Most people aren't stupid and can judge the seriousness of the faults for themselves, and if the response is appropriate.

As others have said, most of it is 'broken bulb' territory.

One thing's for sure, nationality doesn't come into it - except for those who obsessively hunt for racism where none exists.

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New Wed 26 Jan 11 11:46

Not just cars un road worthy. - Alanovich

>> except for those who obsessively
>> hunt for racism where none exists.

Would never dream of mentioning that word in this context. Xenophobia, however........

One wonders why our attention is being drawn to this story, and why it is being implicitly compared to the "scandal" of foreign vehicles on our roads which are sub standard.

Were there to be evidence of compliance to all regulations by all owners of British registered vehicles and ships, then perhaps the "foreign" angle of this story would be relevant.

They're not, so it isn't.

The real sotry is: "Some ships and vehicles in the UK are failing to comply to safety standards and procedures".

That, however, doesn't shift the Daily Wail.

"Foreign ships and vehicles visiting the UK are failing to comply with safety standards and regulations" does, because it appeals to prejudices.

This is an absolute non-story.

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New Wed 26 Jan 11 11:56

Not just cars un road worthy. - Iffy

...This is an absolute non-story...

Is it in Britain's finest newspaper?

I've not checked.

The link is to a press release from the Maritime and Coastguard Agency, so at least we are seeing it as produced.

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New Wed 26 Jan 11 12:09

Not just cars un road worthy. - Alanovich

>> Is it in Britain's finest newspaper?

Tick tock.

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New Wed 26 Jan 11 12:22

Not just cars un road worthy. - sooty123

>>
>> This is an absolute non-story.
>>

Not really it highlights the problem and standards of those who fly the flags such as Panama and Liberia many of them are fine, but plenty are not. It's not an absolute but generally if you were to be look out for poor standards, crew abuse and sub minimum manning you would more than likely find them on such ships rather than those still flagged in the UK.

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