I bought my MacBookPro just before Snow Leopard was launched - not really bothered until the Mac App site opened - the older version of the OS does not allow access. The upgrade is cheap enough but I resented paying Apple the 4.50 they wanted to post my disc out so I scanned as many sites as possible but was slightly disappointed that everyone seemed out of stock - a glance at E-Bay showed that discs were selling at a premium - I was drawn to a seller having 4 discs for sale for £22.00 - cheaper than Apple and described as being BNIB with a photo of the disc and the box. No small print. So I did a Buy It Now only to have an e-mail from the seller pointing out that he was selling a copy of his parents' disc. I cancelled the sale and got my money back from him. Amazon had the discs in stock by yesterday and ordered yesterday it arrived this morning - it cost less than the E-Bay item.
I am disappointed that thieving little toe rags still peddle pirated software on E-Bay.
End of rant.
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Wonder if the parents in question are aware that their beloved son has done this, or are aware of the legal implications? Perhaps a telephone call....?
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...Wonder if the parents in question are aware that their beloved son has done this, or are aware of the legal implications?...
Wonder if the parents are posing as a juvenile in the possibly mistaken belief they will avoid criminal responsibility?
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Hope you gave suitable feedback and alerted eBay
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Doesn't appear that I'm able to give feedback once I had my money back. I'm umming and ahhing about telling e-bay, no doubt there will be a split vote here !
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EBay is not what it was. There have always been "scumballs" (SP?) selling stuff on it. They seem commoner now. Perhaps they have to Think Hard To Come Up With Another Scam Regularly.
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>>>I am disappointed that thieving little toe rags still peddle pirated software on E-Bay.
I'm surprised you're disappointed after the work you've been involved in. Across all walks of life there will always be the dodgy geezers for those who'd choose to shop with them. At least he had the decency to tell you before sending the disc!
And don't think the tone of that paragraph means I'm supporting piracy... It's a personal soapbox thing of mine... particularly with teens in the house who seem to have grown up in a world wher it's rife.
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600+ positive feedback & then get one plonker who spoils it with a item i sold she got a refund but no way will i pay return postage and then after that Resolution centre fiasco she leaves the Negative and i can't do the same.!!
E bay is a rip off great if your a buyer but sellers have no confidence in the system at least before you could leave a neg when you had a plonker now it's rife with them.
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>> E bay is a rip off great if your a buyer but sellers have no
>> confidence in the system at least before you could leave a neg when you had
>> a plonker now it's rife with them.
I only sell items on Ebay now on a cash on collection basis. Too much hassle, and all in recent months, with people claiming not to have received things, claiming not as described, and by the time PayPal and Ebay take their cut, it's not worth bothering anyway.
Whatever the circumstances, Ebay Resolution Centre will ALWAYS find in favour of the buyer in my experience, even if you can prove despatch and a signature at the other end. It almost encourages this kind of behaviour from less scrupulous buyers
Last edited by: DP on Tue 18 Jan 11 at 09:05
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>>one plonker who spoils it with a item i sold she got a refund but no way will i pay return >>postage
Was there a fault with the item the lady returned to you, or had she just changed her mind? I would not expect to have to pay to return faulty goods.
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It was a sewing machine and this woman said it was not as described as it's aolder model and not cuttent range.
7X pictures including model number clearly showed it was not current plastic model as this was the better metal bodied.
Then she says it's not working correctly & after several long winded e mails through e bay i agreed to refund when returned.
It came back but i would not refund postage, & when we checked the machine all was well she just didn't want this machine.
Resoloution centre involved for refund gave partial refund still carring on for £14.95 postage told her politley to swivel & then she left the negative.
I replied to the neg for future buyers to see for themselves as none prior and done a few sales.
This buyer had 49 sales but was not new to e bay she had other accounts she said so i guess she's a player.!!
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On a more positive side I sold a BMW Top Box - unbeknown to me (being an early model) it had a known weakness (which I didn;t know about) I sold it for a good price and sent it and the buyer found the fault (he knew about the known weakness) several e-mails later and a lost cheque he sent it back to me. He left me a superb feedback about honesty and integrity - long story's ending was the guy who bought my GS also bought the box for slightly more than I got on e-bay - he didn't know about the known weakness, but knew when I pointed it out. (!)
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>>>E bay is a rip off
No it's not. It is a bigger marketplace than anyone could have ever dreamed the private person could access. Recently I've just sold 9 items/components of old band type music gear... fetched £450 in total. Locally no-one was really interested and I'd have struggled to get £200 for the lot.
Folks came from as far as Carlisle, Bedfordshire & Norfolk to collect the larger items.
I do agree the charges are a little worse than they were years ago... also the bias is more in favour of buyers now but taken overall the couple of small problems I've had in 650+ deals were tiny compared with the advantages of selling to such a keen national audience.
Last edited by: Fenlander on Tue 18 Jan 11 at 09:32
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I've sold three bikes on it - very easy and cheap European wide exposure.
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>> It was a sewing machine.
>> when we checked the machine
>> all was well she just didn't want this machine.
>> £14.95 postage
With postage at £14.95, perhaps it would have been better to have advertised this particular item locally.
I can understand your frustration, though.
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I'm a regular albeit infrequent ebay seller, but sometimes use Adtrader - free for a 2 week ad (they make money through buyers having to ring special rate numbers to contact you) or £1 if you want to include your email address. Better if you want to set a fixed price and don't mind waiting IMO.
That's where my old PC is at the moment, whereas our old mattress is on ebay - just want someone to come and collect it and not bothered about the money.
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Yes it's true e bay does advertise to a huge audience, But when selling no protection to it's sellers like years ago and it's prices are getting worse listing fee's sellers fee & just for good measure pay pal fee's.
I do prefer collection only and if someone asks to buy it now for cash and wants to collect i'll end the listing early, this is not what e bay wants but stuff them they got the listing fee.!!
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"i'll end the listing early, this is not what e bay wants but stuff them they got the listing fee.!!"
Against T&Cs though isn;t it? I have sold on eBay occasionally and been made offers which I've rejected, told the people they have to bid like everyone else. I suppose you "save" (or steal??) the eBay selling cost.
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Yes against the Terms but when endind a reason has to be given this is ideal when the sale is over £100.00 as the sellers fee is a whopper.
Done this with a few things and cash on collection avoiding pay pal.
However when i let it run the auction and it's not getting anywhere near what i want i have my mates account details to bid it up.!!
Again very naughty but im not selling for peanuts nor am i off in with a reserved or a higher starting price as this is more expensive on listing fees.
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>> against the Terms... >> very naughty
Hardly makes it a level playing field for the rest of us, does it?
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No but who cares about that it's all about the sale and the cash why else sell on there.?
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>> No but who cares about that it's all about the sale and the cash why
>> else sell on there.?
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you?
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...Do unto others as you would have them do unto you?...
I think Bigtee has already surrendered the moral high ground on this one.
But people like him are why I do not use ebay.
I'm not knocking the guy, but I don't like being outwitted, which could easily happen if I used ebay.
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>> I think Bigtee has already surrendered the moral high ground on this one.
>> But people like him are why I do not use ebay.
They are a big problem. That's why I report them if possible, and keep a check on what things are worth and what I'm paying.
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Ebay has an unfortunate reputation amongst Brompton owners as with, Petticoat Lane Market, the outlet for fencing stolen bikes. Giveaways are misdescriptions, obviously incorrect folding in pictures and sellers histories.
Not saying that other offerings are equally dodgy but it makes you think!!
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>>I do not use ebay.
I was beginning to think that I was the only forum member that has neither bought nor sold on ebay...
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I buy selectively, only if it's cheaper than elsewhere - got a pair of mini maglite (genuine) bulbs for 99p (free P&P) retail sites were looking for at least 6 pounds....
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but I don't like being outwitted, which could easily happen if I used ebay.
It's not to rip you off but to get a fair price for what the item is worth and not lose.
As a buyer you should know what a said item is worth and bid accordingley, With e bay buyers get in a bidding war and can get carried away very easily.
For instance i sold a Breitling watch it was in need of a little work the starting price was 99p i was no way going to let it sell for less than £550.00, It sold for £660.00 so a happy deal and the fee for the pleasure was a lot of cash.
Not all mine are that great but it pays to work this way just think if it sold for £25.00 how fed up would you be if it was yours?
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>>>just think if it sold for £25.00 how fed up would you be if it was yours?
Just put a reserve on it??
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It would be your own fault for not setting a reserve.
I'm utterly appalled at your attitude. Selfish doesn't quite cover it.
If you want to use eBay, play by the rules.
You want something for nothing from eBay, but you're making damned sure no-one will get something for nothing off you.
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The reserve has a higher listing fee thats why at 99p it's as cheap as chips.
It's not selfish at all it's common sense your not getting it for peanuts and im not letting it go either.
Make the system better and keep the charges cheaper/fairer and all will be well.
Im listing some items this weekend do you want to bid them up for me?
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Why don't you take your items to the local auction rooms to save all the Ebay hassle??
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The local auction house is a bit of a drive and i have been but to buy in the past e bay is easier from my home.
I used to do the car boot thing buy stuff to flog on e bay and house clearance of relatives who have passed on, not much for these items as it's just the junk family didn't want to keep.
It can be good fun especially when your making some cash............:-)
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The listing fee for items over £100 is a whopping £1.30.
Outrageous, innit?
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Yes it is lol.................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>> The listing fee for items over £100 is a whopping £1.30.
+10% of the final value (up to a max of £40).
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>> >> The listing fee for items over £100 is a whopping £1.30.
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>> +10% of the final value (up to a max of £40).
Which would apply whether the watch was bid up to £660 from 99p or £400.
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Illegal it is just like speeding but we all do it don't we.
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I bet you'd be the first one bleating when someone else tucked you up with their "life skills".
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>> Illegal it is just like speeding but we all do it don't we.
I don't agree that it is like speeding - speeding isn't taking (unfair) advantage of other people.
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+10% of the final value (up to a max of £40).
Now add the pay pal fee on top just for the pleasure.
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Is this thread's title missing an apostrophe? ;-)
Last edited by: Dave_TD {P} on Tue 18 Jan 11 at 16:36
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You're right....I will make amends !
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It doesn't need one - I know what was being got at.
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If you want to be pedantic...is scumball actually a word and if it is, is it one word or should it be two words. If this doesn't confuse the issue, then I think PU is a rather grumpy mood today and must be feeling old:)
Pat
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It was yesterday I'm very happy today ! :-)
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>> If you want to be pedantic...is scumball actually a word and if it is, is
>> it one word or should it be two words. If this doesn't confuse the issue,
>> then I think PU is a rather grumpy mood today and must be feeling old:)
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>> Pat
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I think originally Pugugly was ranting about one particular thieving scumball on ebay, but then one or more others of similar ilk may have joined the thread.
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>> Now add the pay pal fee on top just for the pleasure.
3.4% + 20p
So, to sell a £400 item on Ebay, assuming PayPal payment and no profit/loss from postage would actually cost you £55.10
£1.30 listing fee
£40 final value fee
£13.80 PayPal fee
And have absolutely zero backup/support from the company if the seller tries it on.
I maintain that for low value items, or items collected and paid in cash, it's still a good option, but after 4 largely troublefree years of frequent Ebay trading (100% feedback up until 6 months ago), the fees, together with the risks from the increasing number of unscrupulous buyers who Ebay won't even allow you to leave honest feedback about, have ruined it IMHO.
To buy from, it's superb.
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Illegal it is just like speeding but we all do it don't we.
No, but some who do get caught.
www.techwatch.co.uk/2010/07/05/ebay-conman-gets-5000-fine-for-bidding-up-own-items/
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>> Im listing some items this weekend do you want to bid them up for me?
What are they?
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Sex aids Vibrators and such like do you want to buy any?
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No, I can guess where they've been... :-)
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You said bid them up, not buy them.
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Thieving scumballs rant. - AshT
