Got to be one of my favourite songs from the 80's
Dire Straights - Money for Nothing.
Also, the first music Vid to be played on MTV in 1987, IIRC.
Seems Canada are upset that it contains the word "faggot" and have subsequently banned it from their airwaves unless the word is replaced or edited out.
tinyurl.com/633t5nr
Political Correctness strikes again.
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Not my favourite DS song (Sultans of Swing I reckon) though perhaps they couldn't get "dumpling" to rhyme.
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Good call, Cheddar.
"Brothers in Arms" is their weakest album, imho.
Telegraph Road is their true meisterwerk - Love Over Gold being their finest album.
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I like Sultans of Swing, which I bought as a single, but also all the tracks (that's 3!) on the 1st side of Making Movies - Tunnel of Love, Romeo & Juliet, Skateaway. Never a big fan of Money for Nothin.
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>> I like Sultans of Swing, which I bought as a single, but also all the
>> tracks (that's 3!) on the 1st side of Making Movies
I guess the Canadians won't be hearing Les Boys from the 2nd side of Making Movies :)
www.lyricsfreak.com/d/dire+straits/les+boys_20040731.html
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>> 1st side of Making Movies - Tunnel of Love, Romeo
>> & Juliet, Skateaway. >>
Ooooh yes, now you're talking!
Must give it a spin (or whatever the phrase for playing it on an iPod is)
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'Political Correctness strikes again."
Does raise an interesting point. Is there any use of language that should be banned from the airwaves?. If you believe no then the situation is clear.
If you believe "yes" then its a purely subjective view as to what should be banned. One person's "offensive language" is totally acceptable to another person who will see it as "political correctness''. Especially difficult as what was commonly acceptable yesterday may well be considered offensive by the majority today and vice versa.
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What I don't get about this - and I have to say I never even noticed that word in the song - is why it is suddenly a problem after 25 years? Who has complained about it and why has it taken them so long?
Or is it a Canadian manifestation of the syndrome over here where people try and ban things just in case somebody, somewhere takes offence at it (cf. Birmingham City Council, variously)?
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As a long time Dire Straits fan, I was always pleased that their superbly recorded songs and albums were used for demonstration purposes at most hi-fi exhibitions three or four decades ago. Made it easier to weigh up how good or otherwise the equipment on show proved.
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Dire Straights were almost entirely responsible for the rapid of explosion of CD players in the home.
Everyone wanted their stuff on CD.
Money for nothing? You really need to listen to the long version to appreciate it, much more of sting wailing away in the background on that.
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>>Money for nothing? You really need to listen to the long version to appreciate it, much more of sting wailing away in the background on that.
From the same album, I used to have the long version of Your Latest Trick which had a superb, long sax introduction to it.
Many years ago, when I was but a lad, there used to be a DJ on Radio Scotland at night called Tom Ferrie and you could phone in your dedications and requests and he did one stint of, in DJ speak , back-to-back plays from the one artist. It used to be around 11.40 pm, a couple of standard songs and then on with the show.
I got my request played once, am sure it was Private Investigations and Telegraph Road, and he had to cut it short for the midnight news!
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>>>I was always pleased that their superbly recorded songs and albums were used for demonstration purposes at most hi-fi exhibitions three or four decades ago. Made it easier to weigh up how good or otherwise the equipment on show proved.
Ha ha... yes that was the only sound you heard in Laskys at the time... the start of Telegraph Road with the needle (!?) dropped on at 1min30 and lifted around 3min... only to change over to another turntable/amp or speakers for comparison.
Of course it only ever told you how the hi-fi sounded with a Dire Straits track :-)
I still have the love over gold LP and if moving the PC tower happens this weekend to give me desk space I might drag the turntable out and listen again to that crucial 1min30.
Last edited by: Fenlander on Fri 14 Jan 11 at 12:40
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No doubt Brain's Faggots never went down (so to speak) too well there, either :-)
I also don't recall hearing David Bowie's "Time" being aired on the wireless.....
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...No doubt Brain's Faggots never went down...
Not had those for years, but it was the first thing I thought of when I read the story.
Very nice with some mash and peas.
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I've heard Frankie Goes to Hollywood's Relax on Absolute 80s once or twice - doesn't seem that long ago that Radio 1 DJ Mike Reed refused to play it and effectively banned it.
Has anyone heard heavy breathing classic 'Je t'aime... moi non plus' on Brian Matthew's Sounds of the 60s?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3Fa4lOQfbA
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A few songs had two versions, one for airplay one to buy.
The Stranglers 'Peaches' is one, although the rude version is now routinely played.
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>> Has anyone heard heavy breathing classic 'Je t'aime... moi non plus'
I still have the 45rpm single :-)
"A few songs had two versions, one for airplay one to buy."
As in The Beautiful South's, "Don't Marry Her... something or other"
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yeah
I have the rude version of Dont Marry Her, F Me.
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Bow Wow Wow: 'Go Wild in the Country'. That was changed, too.
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Lets hope the Canadians never hear any songs by the Outhere Brothers.
Last edited by: VxFan on Fri 14 Jan 11 at 12:52
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It always irritates me that Fairytale of New York is now routinely edited on MTV and some radio stations for the 'faggot' reference and a couple of other mild words. Yet Costello's Oliver's Army contains the 'n' word plus various references to London being full of Arabs. I realise that in context it's a powerful anti-war song but it still surprises me that it gets played in full in these nervous pc times.
I wonder if Canadians play anything by Seal in their clubs.
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>>anything by Seal in their clubs.<<
Oooh dont start mentioning anything about Seal and Clubs in the same sentence! - it`ll provoke Greenpeace!
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>> Nor The Macc Lads.
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LOL, I'd forgotten about them.
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Some could find offence at all the contemprary songs with reference to 'shaking ones ass' on the dance floor. (quite why anyone brings their donkey to a disco is beyond me).
Mind you I do find rap offensive - not just the lyrics because most of the offensive words are faded out and you can fill in the words yourself, but the whole aggressive sound and reference to money, girls and crime.
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I used to think there was nothing worse in music than a white rapper, until I heard Polish white rappers. Or German white rappers.
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Agree with you BBD., The German language is ugly at the best of times but must sound 10x worse when mixed with a stoccato repetitive back beat.
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>> The German language is ugly at the best of times
I couldn't DISagree more. We Brits often only hear it in war films and the like, where the tone and volume used is, shall we say, stringent.
I find it a rather graceful and poetic language when spoken properly (particularly by German and Austrian ladies - in fact the Austrian accent is the most pleasing I find, it sounds a bit like how Swedish people speak English, if that makes sense).
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>> >> The German language is ugly at the best of times
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>> I couldn't DISagree more. We Brits often only hear it in war films and the
>> like, where the tone and volume used is, shall we say, stringent.
Vor yu tommy ze var ist over.
Austrians do speak better German, must be all the war criminals they are hiding.
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Yes, there are three methods for dealing with German dialogue in war films:
1) The characters speak in German, with English sub-titles
2) The characters speak in normal English, with no aczent
3) "Vor yu tommy ze var ist over"
:-)
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>> Or German white rappers.
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Die Fantastischen Vier. Made Oi larf, they did :-)
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>> Nor The Macc Lads.
Didn't they manage to rhyme 'Macclesfield" with "knackers feeled" or something like that?
:-)
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Lots of meanings, only one of which relates to benders.
* faggot or fagot, branch or twig, or bundle of these
o Fasces
o Faggot (unit), archaic unit of measurement for bundles of sticks
o Death by burning, metonymically referred to by the faggots which fuel the fire
o Ashen faggot (or ashton fagot), Christmas wassail tradition in the West Country of England
* Faggot (slang), pejorative, now usually for a gay man, also having older and derived pejorative senses
* Faggot (food), British meatball commonly made of pork offal
* Faggots (novel), 1978 novel by Larry Kramer
* Faggoting (metalworking), forge welding a bundle of bars of iron and steel
* Faggoting (knitting), variation of lace knitting in which every stitch is a yarn over or a decrease
* Faggoting stitch, featherstitch, or Cretan stitch, embroidery stitch used to make decorative seams or to attach insertions
* Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15, USSR jet fighter with NATO reporting name "Fagot"
* 9K111 Fagot, an anti-tank guided missile
* Fagotto, 16′ pedal reed organ stop
* Faggot cell, blast cell type found in acute promyelocytic leukemia
* Faggot voter, hireling eligible to vote as nominal titleholder of part a subdivided property
* Eumeta crameri or faggot worm, from the bundles of twigs it binds to itself
* Jacob Faggot (1699-1777), Swedish scientist who miscalculated the pitches of the Strähle construction
See also
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Mate at uni was from Macclesfield and was a big fan - I too had forgotten about them until I saw the post that Alanovich replied to, and he just beat me to it. 'Sweaty Betty'?
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>>I have the rude version of Dont Marry Her, F Me.>>
You beat me to that one..:-)
BS were never as good I felt after the unexpected departure of Jacqueline Abbott.
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I quite like Dire Straits, but then I love all the 80's synth stuff. Going to an punk and 80's synth tonight so I suspect I will here quite a bit of straits.
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>> I quite like Dire Straits, but then I love all the 80's synth stuff.
Dire Straits? 80's synth stuff? Have you been drinking heavily already tonight?
Mark Knopfler would thrash you from Cullercoats to Whitley Bay with his national guitar for such a comment.
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"the rude version"
And recently there was the Lily Allen song which in UK was "Thank You" (I think). While in France we were amazed to hear very frequently on the radio, the original, which was "F... You"
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The Cee-Lo Green number one before Christmas came in two versions - "Forget You" and the other one... Personally I think the lyrics of the non-airplay version scanned better and conveyed the writer's emotion far more effectivey.
Most current chart music seems to have radio- and non-radio- versions, and the yoof are pretty adept at seeking out the latter online.
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It is one thing which surprised me about New Order/Joy Division some of the band members (well Hooky) swears like a true manc but none of their lyrics had any a single swear word.
They never made their records for radio either as they could not give a toss.
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>> They never made their records for radio either as they could not give a toss.
...although when they did get in the charts and onto Top of the Pops, they made a point of playing live, which was unusual at the time. Not sure your typical TotP viewer appreciated it though - they probably wondered why it didn't sound as good as what they heard on the radio.
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>> While in France we were amazed to hear very frequently on the radio, the
>> original, which was "F... You"
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Not as surprised as we were, when over there in the autumn of 2009, to see the song title displayed on the radio display and the instrument panel repeater, via some local development of the RDS system. You tend not to expect to see that sort of language appear between the speedo and rev counter.
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Not many foreign language hits over here spring to mind.
Ca Plane Pour Moi by Plastic Bertrand was one.
Nessun Dorma by Pavarotti was a hit single, I think.
Any others?
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Amadeus. Je T'aime (also banned). Monsieur Dupont. Joe Le Taxi (!?!) ...spring to mind.
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Some right dross, isn't there?
Kraftwerk bring a bit of quality with Autobahn, which just about qualifies as a song rather an instrumental.
Speaking of dross, Je Suis un Rock Star by Bill Wyman was partly in French, or Franglais.
"Voulez-vous partir with me, and come and rester-la, with me in France."
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>> Kraftwerk bring a bit of quality with Autobahn, which just about qualifies as a song
>> rather an instrumental.
Its just about qualifies as noise. Nothing more
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>> Kraftwerk bring a bit of quality with Autobahn, which just about qualifies as a song
>> rather an instrumental.
Not much tune perhaps, but very atmospheric.
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>> Any others?
One that I bought: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PDmZnG8KsM
I'm afraid I have a bit of a soft spot for euro-disco with female vocals in minor keys.
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>> One that I bought: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PDmZnG8KsM
That was played utterly to death on commercial radio for about 2 years after release IIRC... Still a good tune though.
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>> yeah
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>> I have the rude version of Dont Marry Her, F Me.
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Me too, have to skip that track when the kids are around..... There's a Mumford and Son's track I particularly like (Little Lion Man) which cannot be played in front of the kids for the same F'in reason.
As for Dire Straits, have to agree with other posters that side one of Making Movies is sublime and that Telegraph Road is superb on Love Over Gold.
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They were good albums, I still have Alchemy somewhere - the weapon of choice on our Walkmans at the time !
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>> They were good albums, I still have Alchemy somewhere - the weapon of choice on
>> our Walkmans at the time !
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Or maybe the Walken on your Weapon of Choice :-)
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Dire Straits song deemed offensive - Pat
