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Thread Author: henry k Replies: 13

 Cash cards. Beware the loop! - henry k
Bad news for 2011

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-12092944

Cash machine users in Woking warned over thefts
( Thats a bit close to Z land ) but might be comining to a hole in the wall near you.
 Cash cards. Beware the loop! - BobbyG
Zero doesn't do cash. And in the few instances he does, Bank of England deliver it personally to him....
 Cash cards. Beware the loop! - madf
I print my own.
 Cash cards. Beware the loop! - RattleandSmoke
Hasn't this been going on for years? If this is news then it sounds like a really nice crime free area to live in!
Last edited by: RattleandSmoke on Thu 30 Dec 10 at 14:47
 Cash cards. Beware the loop! - PeterS
Well it is in Surrey ;-)
 Cash cards. Beware the loop! - Tigger
>> Hasn't this been going on for years? If this is news then it sounds like
>> a really nice crime free area to live in!

Yes. One of our neighbours had a car stolen about 8 years ago. We try not make a habit of it, but have occaisionally left the car doors unlocked - without any issues.

Woking isn't the nicest of areas, but it is surrounded by areas which are - Elmbridge, Surrey Heath (where we live), Guildford.

www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/s/2084752_surrey_borough_tops_quality_of_life_survey
 Cash cards. Beware the loop! - Stuartli
Toe rags leave no stone unturned to land their ill gotten gains.....:-(
 Cash cards. Beware the loop! - Tigger
PS. this is the totality of our most recent neighbourhood watch email...

Neighbourhood Watch 18th December to 24th December 2010

Over the past week there have been three Burglary (Dwellings) reported across Surrey Heath

Heatherside between 19:00 hours on Wednesday 15th December to 15:00 hours on Friday 17th December 24, 2010

Have attended a block of flats in a residential road and have gone round to back of flats. Have smashed a living room window in a ground floor flat and gained access via this. Have conducted a tidy search and removed computer equipment from the property.
SH/10/6509

Parkside between 08:00 and 17:40 Hours Tuesday 21st December

During daylight hours have gone to residential area and removed locks to the French doors and accessed property by integral garage. Have conducted a tidy search and have taken numerous items of jewellery and computer games equipment.
SH/10/6535

Heatherside between 22:30 hours Tuesday 21st December and 07:15 hours Wednesday 22nd December

During the hours of darkness have approached the front of a detached, brick built two storey house in a residential area of Camberley. Have entered rear of property via an insecure side gate and made their way to a kitchen upvc door that has a cat flap in lower half. Have removed the key from the inside of the back door and used it on the outside to unlock and gain access to the house. Have removed a wallet and car keys from the chest of drawers in the hallway by the front door. Have also taken two handbags from near the front door and exited via the back door. Have then made an untidy search of both handbags, discarding these outside the back door.

Have returned to the front of the property and using keys have driven off in the blue ford focus parked at the bottom of the driveway.

SH/10/6548

There has been one Burglary (Other) reported over the last week

Heatherside between Friday 17th December and Tuesday 21st December

Location is a garage block in a residential area.

Have popped the lock and entered the garage. Have removed Stihl chainsaw and Stihl hedge cutter and then have left closing garage door.

SH/10/6530

There has been one Theft of Pedal Cycle reported over the last week

Watchetts Between 18:00 hours Wednesday 22nd December and 09:00 hours Thursday 23rd December

Have gone to a boys bike padlocked to railings outside a block of flats on a council estate and have stolen the bike leaving padlock at the scene.

SH/10/6566

There have been no reports of theft of or from motor vehicles in Surrey Heath over the past week.

Wishing everyone a Happy Christmas and Safe and Prosperous New Year from the Surrey Heath Neighbourhood Policing Team
 Cash cards. Beware the loop! - Leif
>> Yes. One of our neighbours had a car stolen about 8 years ago.

That'll teach him not to insert his car into the cash machine slot.
 Cash cards. Beware the loop! - Chris S
"The loops are usually a strip of metal or plastic which retains a bank card when it is inserted into a machine. ... Police said money was fraudulently obtained after criminals had observed the victim entering their Pin number."

That's a bit low tech - most fraudsters have chip and PIN reading devices these days.
 Cash cards. Beware the loop! - Zero
Ah the old Lebanese loop. I hauled one of the first ones ever seen in the UK from a cash point in New Malden I was fixing, in about 1983.
 Cash cards. Beware the loop! - bathtub tom
>>observed the victim entering their Pin number

I expect they watched them in their cars wing mirror. ;>)
 Cash cards. Beware the loop! - FotheringtonTomas
There's also the Chip and PIN hack that allows purchase of goods in shops using a stolen card - the transaction appearing as "PIN verified", but no valid PIN being used. This was known at the beginning of the year, and only now has the real row started.

www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~sjm217/papers/oakland10chipbroken.pdf
www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~osc22/scd/

Barclay's have supposedly fixed their systems, but no-one else - yet.
 Cash cards. Beware the loop! - hjd
We live (too) close to Woking. Daughter has just had her debit card cloned - HSBC rang on Christmas Eve to tell her this, and said they would issue a new card. That arrived this morning so a pat on the back there! We don't know where it was cloned, since she has been spending her university year abroad in Finland and travels back via ferries and trains, crossing Finland/Sweden/Denmark/UK between 14 and 17 December. Could have been cloned anywhere. They don't tend to use chip and pin in Scandinavia.
Just as well the new card has arrived, as she starts the journey back on Sunday, arriving in Finland on Wednesday, and having to send on a card to Finland would have delayed matters considerably.
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